nokia123 Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 CID is still investigating sir...they will prove to court directly anta. That guy lost the point there only good question arnab I doubt if they can trace the money trail back to cbn and he will come out this is nothing more than jagan favoring opposition with his monarch behavior and creating sympathy in neutral voters Quote
Popular Post hyperbole Posted September 16, 2023 Popular Post Report Posted September 16, 2023 All is not black and white, He is bing accused of. 1) how did CBN approve the contract without due diligence and process like awarding the contracts directly without any tender process. 2) what had happened to the 371 crores that was paid by the government to the shell companies, the funds were released by his government to the shell companies. They have sufficient proof since the GST of 40 crores was held and these shell companies demanded the refund and that’s where this whole thing blew off. 3. Next is what you are saying regarding establishing the link between shell companies and CBN, inspite of some of them turning approver they will need money trail to establish the claims. CBN was sent to remand for 1 and 2. 3rd one will decide on how long he will be behind bars. 1 4 Quote
RSUCHOU Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 5 hours ago, nokia123 said: CID is still investigating sir...they will prove to court directly anta. That guy lost the point there only good question arnab I doubt if they can trace the money trail back to cbn and he will come out this is nothing more than jagan favoring opposition with his monarch behavior and creating sympathy in neutral voters First things first, there are 2 different points here. 1. Deviation from the due procedures 2. Deviation from the procedures for personal gain Both are punishable offences. Both are under the same section. PC 17 A, if I am not wrong. The money trail needs to be traced back to Babu only to establish the second point. Deviation of the procedures has already been established. If the initial filings have to be believed, there are multiple deviations. Nomination based vs tenders. Signatures on the appointments and funds released before the cabinet approved etc. 13 documents have signatures from CBN if reports are to be believed. But, with the kind of judicial support system that CBN has and with his acumen in these kind of things, I have my faith that he is going to come out of this. Regarding sympathy, party lines are drawn in stone and neutrals have stopped sympathising based on corruption and such factors. If it was an ideal world, Babu garu should have been behind bars several times already. 1 Quote
Kaidi7691 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 Siemens wrote a letter that they are not involved in mou. And as per mou siemens is supposed to pay 3000+ crores. chinna scam cheyyadam kooda naa puthrudu ki raadhu. Nenu jail lo Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 8 hours ago, hyperbole said: All is not black and white, He is bing accused of. 1) how did CBN approve the contract without due diligence and process like awarding the contracts directly without any tender process. 2) what had happened to the 371 crores that was paid by the government to the shell companies, the funds were released by his government to the shell companies. They have sufficient proof since the GST of 40 crores was held and these shell companies demanded the refund and that’s where this whole thing blew off. 3. Next is what you are saying regarding establishing the link between shell companies and CBN, inspite of some of them turning approver they will need money trail to establish the claims. CBN was sent to remand for 1 and 2. 3rd one will decide on how long he will be behind bars. Papam Paytm kukkala kastalu. Quote 1) how did CBN approve the contract without due diligence and process like awarding the contracts directly without any tender process. Is there any law that tenders must be floated? If so, why didn't IAS officers (CS, Finance S) point it out? Why aren't they made responsible for violating that law? Quote 2) what had happened to the 371 crores that was paid by the government to the shell companies, the funds were released by his government to the shell companies. They have sufficient proof since the GST of 40 crores was held and these shell companies demanded the refund and that’s where this whole thing blew off. Gov didn't pay any money to shell companies. Gov paid money to DigiTech company, and in return, gov got equipment, established skill development centers, and trained ~200K students. That is the agreement, and that is where gov oversight ends. What a private establishment does with their margins (and profits) is up to them. IF they divert money to shell companies, they are punishable by law. Where is CBN involved here? Quote 3. Next is what you are saying regarding establishing the link between shell companies and CBN, inspite of some of them turning approver they will need money trail to establish the claims. Well, nothing to argue here. Even your pea brain knows that CBN has no connection here. Quote CBN was sent to remand for 1 and 2. 3rd one will decide on how long he will be behind bars. Did the magistrate mention in her judgment that she accepted the remand report based on 1,2? Baseless allegations and baseless arguments. Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, RSUCHOU said: First things first, there are 2 different points here. 1. Deviation from the due procedures 2. Deviation from the procedures for personal gain Both are punishable offences. Both are under the same section. PC 17 A, if I am not wrong. The money trail needs to be traced back to Babu only to establish the second point. Deviation of the procedures has already been established. If the initial filings have to be believed, there are multiple deviations. Nomination based vs tenders. Signatures on the appointments and funds released before the cabinet approved etc. 13 documents have signatures from CBN if reports are to be believed. But, with the kind of judicial support system that CBN has and with his acumen in these kind of things, I have my faith that he is going to come out of this. Regarding sympathy, party lines are drawn in stone and neutrals have stopped sympathising based on corruption and such factors. If it was an ideal world, Babu garu should have been behind bars several times already. Quote Deviation of the procedures has already been established. If the initial filings have to be believed, there are multiple deviations. Nomination based vs tenders. Signatures on the appointments and funds released before the cabinet approved etc. 13 documents have signatures from CBN if reports are to be believed. Established how? Is there any law that tenders must be floated? If so, why didn't IAS officers (CS, Finance S) point it out? Why aren't they made responsible for violating that law? Looks like 2 paytm bots are supporting each other, trying to manipulate other readers. Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Kaidi7691 said: Siemens wrote a letter that they are not involved in mou. And as per mou siemens is supposed to pay 3000+ crores. chinna scam cheyyadam kooda naa puthrudu ki raadhu. Nenu jail lo Evadu ee ayana gurinchena nuvvu matladedhi? https://x.com/unexpected5678/status/1703297088128500151 Siemens MD, pressmeet petti mari meru ayyani, ayana family ni chesina harassment gurinchi chepthunnadu. 1 Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 Ee Jaffa gallu and vallani support chese ee paytm *** kodukulu ni kalchi para dengali. International company MD ni harras cheyyatam entra? 1 Quote
halwa_fan Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nani_17 said: Established how? Is there any law that tenders must be floated? If so, why didn't IAS officers (CS, Finance S) point it out? Why aren't they made responsible for violating that law? Looks like 2 paytm bots are supporting each other, trying to manipulate other readers. they clearly wrote they are releasing funds on behest of CMs order.. funny people here think they know something which advocate Luthra didn’t 😂 1 Quote
halwa_fan Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nani_17 said: Ee Jaffa gallu and vallani support chese ee paytm *** kodukulu ni kalchi para dengali. International company MD ni harras cheyyatam entra? acha, 2 years nundi evadi m gudustunnadata.. ipudu sendri dorakangane pattukochinra veedini.. eda dorikadu veedu.. manodena Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, halwa_fan said: they clearly wrote they are releasing funds on behest of CMs order.. funny people here think they know something which advocate Luthra didn’t 😂 The person who wrote that note himself says that 1) The budget for the project was allocated and approved in the assembly. 2) There is nothing wrong with CM following up on the implementation of a project approved by the cabinet and with budget allocations approved by the assembly. It is CM's duty to do so. 3) Says that his notes are on scramble note that has no legal significance. 4) Says that he testified before the judge that there are no dots connecting to a scam. Idiots here think that they know more than the principal finance secretary himself. Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, halwa_fan said: they clearly wrote they are releasing funds on behest of CMs order.. funny people here think they know something which advocate Luthra didn’t 😂 The person who wrote that note himself says that 1) The budget for the project was allocated and approved in the assembly. 2) There is nothing wrong with CM following up on the implementation of a project approved by the cabinet and with budget allocations approved by the assembly. It is CM's duty to do so. 3) Says that his notes are on scramble note that has no legal significance. 4) Says that he testified before the judge that there are no dots connecting to a scam. Idiots here think that they know more than the principal finance secretary himself. 1 Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, halwa_fan said: acha, 2 years nundi evadi m gudustunnadata.. ipudu sendri dorakangane pattukochinra veedini.. eda dorikadu veedu.. manodena https://www.linkedin.com/in/sumanbose/?originalSubdomain=sg Nuvve chusuko ee kulam oodo. Reddy gajji pattina patym laki lokam antha okka kulam ee kanipisthundhi. 1 Quote
halwa_fan Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nani_17 said: The person who wrote that note himself says that 1) The budget for the project was allocated and approved in the assembly. 2) There is nothing wrong with CM following up on the implementation of a project approved by the cabinet and with budget allocations approved by the assembly. It is CM's duty to do so. 3) Says that his notes are on scramble note that has no legal significance. 4) Says that he testified before the judge that there are no dots connecting to a scam. Idiots here think that they know more than the principal finance secretary himself. inkem ide cheppi bail techukovalsindi Quote
Nani_17 Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, halwa_fan said: inkem ide cheppi bail techukovalsindi Vasthadi, endhuku thondhara, next adhe. aa tharvatha elections lo jaffa kodukulni dengatame. Quote
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