kevinUsa Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 Conestoga College has at least 9,000 Indian students, says president John Tibbits. Jeff Outhit / Waterloo Region Record WATERLOO REGION — The sudden diplomatic spat between India and Canada carries new risks, says international relations expert Veronica Kitchen. “The immediate concern is the potential for racist attacks of various kinds against Indians, or anybody who might be mistaken or might look like an Indian in public,” she said. There are more than 11,000 Indian students attending schools in this region, plus 55,400 residents who identify as South Asian by race. Quote
kevinUsa Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Posted September 22, 2023 Foreign students reached 57% of enrolment at Conesoga College in 2022.They pay 2 to 4 times the tuition of domestic students. India is the top country of origin. 2012-2013 2014-2015 2016-2017 2018-2019 2020-2021 0 5,000 10,000 15,000 20,000 International students Domestic students Shows full-time headcount in the fall. Chart: Jeff OuthitSource: Ontario Data CatalogueGet the dataCreated with Datawrapper Kitchen points to racist attacks during the COVID-19 pandemic against people deemed to be Chinese, after China was cited as the origin of the pandemic. Indian students could also see their Canadian studies disrupted if visa restrictions are imposed on them. Alternatively, Indians might stop seeing Canada as a good place to study and choose not to come, threatening millions in future tuition fees collected on local campuses. “Canada could be affected by Indians who want to travel to Canada and choose not to, because of the warnings that the Indian government is giving against travel to to Canada,” said Kitchen, a political scientist at the University of Waterloo. ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW The diplomatic spat erupted this week after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said there’s evidence the Indian government is behind the killing in B.C. of a Canadian man who advocated for a separate Sikh homeland in India. You might be interested in Thieves steal $100K of equipment from Kitchener business NEWS Thieves steal $100K of equipment from Kitchener business 3 days ago 18-year-old thrown from e-bike in Waterloo collision NEWS 18-year-old thrown from e-bike in Waterloo collision 2 days ago India has denied involvement, has warned students that Canada may not be safe for them, and has paused issuing new visas for Canadians wishing to travel to India. Both countries have expelled diplomats. “Each side is taking symbolic actions against the other in order to express their displeasure. We see this all the time in diplomacy,” Kitchen said. “It has unfortunate effects for actual people.” There are at least 9,000 Indian students enrolled at Conestoga College. “We have some concern,” college president John Tibbits said. “We certainly anticipate something could happen, but we don’t know what. ... It’s unfortunate that this happened.” It’s estimated the University of Waterloo has enrolled more than 2,000 Indian students. “The university is watching this issue closely and offering support to our current group of international students who may be concerned about what this means for them,” UW spokesperson Rebecca Elming said in a statement. Universities and colleges prize Indian students because like other international students they pay tuition fees two to six times higher than fees charged to Canadians. Indians are drawn to Canadian studies partly by the prospect of a path to permanent residency, offered by the Canadian government. There were 319,000 Indians with student visas in Canada last year, eight times more than in 2014 according to federal data. Some used ApplyBoard, a successful tech firm in this region that helps international students apply for post-secondary studies. The firm “is disheartened at the rising tensions between the Canadian and Indian governments. Thousands of Indian students come to Canada every year, many here in Waterloo Region, and to see their dreams of furthering their education and careers get impacted is concerning,” the company said in a statement. Kitchen and Tibbits can’t see how it is in Canada’s interest to stop Indian students from studying here, partly because of the large South Asian diaspora that has settled here. “There would be a lot of pushback from Indian families,” Tibbits said. “I can’t see (the government) shutting it down. I think it’d be too much political pushback.” “For the moment, Indian students are welcome in Canada through regular visa protocols,” Kitchen said. “And because of the numbers of people in that community, and because of the strength of the diaspora, I struggle to imagine a situation where it would be in Canada’s interest to reduce the number of Indian students or the number of visas being granted because of this spat.” Conestoga is aiming to diversify its international enrolment, aware it is vulnerable if most of its foreign students come from one place, Tibbits said. The college could adapt to a significant drop in Indian students but “we just wouldn’t be able to grow the way we have,” he said. Conestoga College is a leader in international enrolment on campuses. India is the top country of origin for foreign students at Conestoga. International enrolment 2021-2022Growth in foreign students 2015-2022 University of Toronto 25,761 12,138 Seneca College 12,818 8,923 Conestoga College 12,808 12,045 Centennial College 10,686 5,843 York University 9,318 4,402 University of Waterloo 8,925 3,423 University of Ottawa 8,915 4,785 Lambton College 8,892 6,108 St. Clair College 6,621 6,074 McMaster University 6,367 3,945 Shows top 10 post-secondary schools by international enrolment . Chart: Jeff OuthitSource: Ontario Data CatalogueGet the dataCreated with Datawrapper Tibbits met this week with a consul from the Indian High Commission who came to the Conestoga campus on a visit that was set up earlier. The consul met also with Indian students to discuss their Canadian education. This is not the first time a diplomatic dispute has affected international students in Canada. In 2018 Saudi Arabia reacted to a Canadian government statement by cancelling scholarships and ordering home up to 800 medical residents it had placed here for medical training. Canadian universities scrambled to retain Saudi students. The Saudis eventually relented, but Canada is no longer a popular destination for Saudi students. Just 735 Saudis had student visas in Canada last year, down from 5,075 in 2018 and a high of just over 14,000 Saudi students in 2011. The decade-long decline suggests multiple factors in play. Kitchen points out that other countries still send students to Canada despite diplomatic tensions. “We still have Iranian students, Russian students, Chinese students, like lots of countries with whom Canada has had poor diplomatic relations, either for the short term or the long term,” she said. ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW Jeff Outhit Jeff Outhit is a Kitchener-based general assignment reporter for the Waterloo Region Record. 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Tryad Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 India should be blamed for putting its citizens abroad at risk by engaging in illegal behaviour outside of its territories. 1 Quote
shaktimaan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 Canada like a good manger gave India a chance to come clean and accept. Just like a typical Indian at work, they doubled down and started bullying now face the consequences lol Quote
Tryad Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 Just now, shaktimaan said: Canada like a good manger gave India a chance to come clean and accept. Just like a typical Indian at work, they doubled down and started bullying now face the consequences lol Canada was in touch with India for weeks on this, with Canadian intelligence officials traveling to India multiple times.. and Trudeau said that even in G20, he brought this up with Modi and sought cooperation in the investigation. Indian side is pretending like Trudeau woke up one fine day, and decided to finally get Sikh votes and started to blame India. These guys are delusional. 1 Quote
Tryad Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 @kevinUsa inni years db lo unnav. sarigga copy paste cheyyatam kooda raadhu. malli tekku em takkuv ledhu. 1 Quote
pakeer_saab Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tryad said: India should be blamed for putting its citizens abroad at risk by engaging in illegal behaviour outside of its territories. MOOSKO RA HOOKA INDIA KNOWS HOW TO PROTECT ITS INTERESTS 1 Quote
Tryad Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, pakeer_saab said: MOOSKO RA HOOKA INDIA KNOWS HOW TO PROTECT ITS INTERESTS by killing foreign citizens in foreign land? ask it to keep doing it. one day all the goodwill will run out, just like India's demographic dividend is fast running out. enjoy being Indian. lmao. Quote
pakeer_saab Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 Just now, Tryad said: by killing foreign citizens in foreign land? ask it to keep doing it. one day all the goodwill will run out, just like India's demographic dividend is fast running out. enjoy being Indian. lmao. goodwill aa bokka, there is goodwill between countries its only self-interests that matter entire drama is orchestration of America using their satellite state. Quote
shaktimaan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 ninnati daaka morigina kukkalu ippudu self defense lo paddayi love it 1 Quote
Tryad Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said: goodwill aa bokka, there is goodwill between countries its only self-interests that matter entire drama is orchestration of America using their satellite state. yeah killing citizens of a country in illegal operations is the highest expression of self-interest.. ekkadnundi osthaar ra meerantha. Quote
Tryad Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, shaktimaan said: ninnati daaka morigina kukkalu ippudu self defense lo paddayi love it ye kukkal ni antunnav? db kukkal ni pattinchukoku.. manam thread lo ki vasthey avey paari pothaay. hehe.. Quote
pakeer_saab Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Tryad said: yeah killing citizens of a country in illegal operations is the highest expression of self-interest.. ekkadnundi osthaar ra meerantha. proof edira fooka one can say anything and cant get away just like that Quote
shaktimaan Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Tryad said: ye kukkal ni antunnav? db kukkal ni pattinchukoku.. manam thread lo ki vasthey avey paari pothaay. hehe.. diversion ki material cooking ani talku 1 Quote
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