How KCR and KTR re-built Hyderabad image and made it 1000 times better than what Andhra CMs had achieved

[CanadianMalodu]

18 hours ago, Jinthatha_Rajshekar said:

Bolli CBN did nothing! But land pooling and large scams to benefit him and his communities. 
 

timeline comparison clearly states that Bangalore and Chennai adopted IT based economies much earlier and much stable than Hyderabad under TDP rule at that time. CBN was simply at the right place in right time. 
 

what KCR has done is for the whole state of TG is much greater feat than what CBN did to pocket some deals in the name of IT

Then you clearly have no idea. Sure, Baboru did take some tracts of land but no way in comparison to what Dora and his benamis robbed the state. Heck, a useless project was built to the tune of 70,000 Cr called Kaleshwaram and it's set to fail. Land Kabjas and settlements are at an all time high in current Doras government. The entire west Hyderabad belt was set of small villages when Baboru and his financiers took the land at cheaper prices, but still they created a value that even general public benefitted from. Unlike Dora and his henchmen who are only to kabja and grab.

Baboru and his trusted set of advisors like JA chowdari were instrumental in setting up anchor companies like Wipro, followed by Microsoft. It's him who got ISB to Hyderabad and established IIIT, directly by allotting the then Ranga Reddy Collectorate office to IIIT without any delays. It's only after that many others companies followed that route to Hyderabad including the likes of Google.

You drag Bangalore and Chennai into comparison, but you conveniently forget that both were much bigger economies before 2004, Chennai has a port and a lot of manufacturing going for it and Bangalore already has a established IT scene. To sell Hyderabad to investors who were looking at Bangalore,Chennai and Mumbai and gain investment in itself was a big deal. He had done that successfully. Dora and his rioters created law and order situation in Hyderabad and did hafta vasool in the name of T agitation and then Chinna Dora entered scene after Telangana formation and is selling the established Hyderabad to investors again. It's exactly the same as what Baboru did but many times easier.  Baboru before 2004 is a different man. Unfortunately, that Baboru was dead after he moved to Amaravathi in what's a biggest blunder and came under too much influence of real estate lobby. 

[Jinthatha_Rajshekar]

15 hours ago, futureofandhra said:

what a waste of lines

am talking about current AP lol

Read post title before wasting your efforts. 
 

its about TG leaders. I stayed on track you tried to side bringing AP into convo 

 

light and chill

[futureofandhra]

29 minutes ago, Jinthatha_Rajshekar said:

Read post title before wasting your efforts. 
 

its about TG leaders. I stayed on track you tried to side bringing AP into convo 

 

light and chill

am showing who is greater as u mocked cbn 

u still did not get it right lol

[CanadianMalodu]

15 hours ago, vincent said:

Lol . Whataboutery . I don’t care what you think . All that I have stated are facts .

Your facts missed the context. YSR did implement the things started by Baboru. He didn't side track them. That include IIIT, Airport and ORR. YSR changed the alignment of ring road as he wanted a pie for himself, his family and his followers.  That doesn't take away the accomplishments from Baboru. Baboru before 2004 did lay the foundation for the current landscape of cyberabad. 

[Teluguredu]

9 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Your facts missed the context. YSR did implement the things started by Baboru. He didn't side track them. That include IIIT, Airport and ORR. YSR changed the alignment of ring road as he wanted a pie for himself, his family and his followers.  That doesn't take away the accomplishments from Baboru. Baboru before 2004 did lay the foundation for the current landscape of cyberabad. 

By your logic cyber towers(I.T)and metro should go into congress quota since they have started them.

Truth is no regional leader can change the scope of entire cities without extended support from centre for a long time.hyderabad got a lot of investment much before baboru because of lobbying by congress leaders like kbr who brought major industries like BHEL,IDPL(reason for Telugu businessmen dominating Pharma) etc.. and suppresed any agitation with no second thoughts and it was one of the major cities in India even then(top 5 GDP) because of being nizam capital ,it was in the plans of centre to make hyderabad a I.T hub before baboru even became the C.M.Baboru did nothing more than a standard cm.

[aakathaai78912]

1 hour ago, futureofandhra said:

am showing who is greater as u mocked cbn 

u still did not get it right lol

Lol Chemba didnt do even 10% of what KCR and KTR have done. They didnt give away free lands n perks for body shop service centers like Chemba . They brought in actual development centers of so many reputed companies and established a start up hub to create an eco system. Hyderabad organically until 2008 then from 2014 after TRS came to power the growth zoomed like crazy.

[Teluguredu]

5 minutes ago, aakathaai78912 said:

Lol Chemba didnt do even 10% of what KCR and KTR have done. They didnt give away free lands n perks for body shop service centers like Chemba . They brought in actual development centers of so many reputed companies and established a start up hub to create an eco system. Hyderabad organically until 2008 then from 2014 after TRS came to power the growth zoomed like crazy.

Actually both of them didn't do anything ,nizam did 90% of the work rest is united andhra lobbying power to bring may institutions to hyderabad .

 

The city your so proud of is built by nizam lol,thats why you people are slaves to chuslims since they are the ruling class there.

[futureofandhra]

7 minutes ago, aakathaai78912 said:

Lol Chemba didnt do even 10% of what KCR and KTR have done. They didnt give away free lands n perks for body shop service centers like Chemba . They brought in actual development centers of so many reputed companies and established a start up hub to create an eco system. Hyderabad organically until 2008 then from 2014 after TRS came to power the growth zoomed like crazy.

hyd develop ayina taruvatha kothaga develop cheyatam emundhi

emi leni chota techina vadu magadu 

cbn did it in 90s

even to AP he got company like kIA 

meeru entha try chesina kashtam ley

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, Teluguredu said:

By your logic cyber towers(I.T)and metro should go into congress quota since they have started them.

Truth is no regional leader can change the scope of entire cities without extended support from centre for a long time.hyderabad got a lot of investment much before baboru because of lobbying by congress leaders like kbr who brought major industries like BHEL,IDPL(reason for Telugu businessmen dominating Pharma) etc.. and suppresed any agitation with no second thoughts and it was one of the major cities in India even then(top 5 GDP) because of being nizam capital ,it was in the plans of centre to make hyderabad a I.T hub before baboru even became the C.M.Baboru did nothing more than a standard cm.

I didn't deny union govt's support for it. Easy to say that Baboru was just a standard CM. He was not a Botsa Satyanarayana who in his own words said in the past quote &quote "sommulu poyinayi naneti sesdhi" when asked about Volkswagen.

The sectors that you're quoting were more of government investment driven. IDPL acted as a catalyst for generic and bulk pharmaceutical manufacturing in Hyderabad. 

But the boom and growth of Hyderabad was largely due to IT offshoring, which absorbed hundreds of thousands of employees. This needed to have anchor companies with in Hyderabad. The earliest smaller ones were started by NRIs who brought work to offshore and were based out of Maithrivanam /Ameerpet. The Y2K problem pushed every jobless grad  to try luck in Mainframe systems back then, and you have whole lot of grads and diplomas who learned from the coaching institutes that sprung to action in Maithrivanam area. They then moved to US. Though there were SATYAM computers and TCS  there was not any other major anchor companies in Hyd till the time of Baboru. Even though backing from centre did exist, Bangalore was the preferred choice due to its head start. It's only after Telugu IT workers scrambled across US and Hyderabad offices started to grow in numbers did people begin talking of Hyderabad. Then happened Wipro and Microsoft during Baboru's time and he pushed his officers and advisors to these companies which zeroed on Hyderabad after persuasion. This move started to anchor more companies in Hyderabad including the likes of Google. Getting ISB and planning IIIT did their part as well. That's again during the Baboru's time. You got to give the man some credit where he deserves. His pride made him exaggerate these achievements and the boisterous tone was  not appreciated by other politicians as they wanted a pie of the fame as well.

[CanadianMalodu]

39 minutes ago, aakathaai78912 said:

Lol Chemba didnt do even 10% of what KCR and KTR have done. They didnt give away free lands n perks for body shop service centers like Chemba . They brought in actual development centers of so many reputed companies and established a start up hub to create an eco system. Hyderabad organically until 2008 then from 2014 after TRS came to power the growth zoomed like crazy.

What organically? This ain't a Walmart food shelf. Why didn't Warangal grow "Organically" then? Dora and his bunch of dacoits created and benefitted from hafta vasool in the name of Telangana agitation. Then took over power and did the same thing as that of Baboru. It's multifold easier to sell your socalled "Organically grown" Hyderabad to Multinational tech and manufacturing companies than selling the Hyd of late nineties and early 2000s. 

T-hub is a fancy name.Single window system existed before T-Hub. Chinna Dora demands a share of 20-30% if you go  to T-hub. Only MNC's are exception to this rule, he does real estate and gains around them though. 

[Teluguredu]

1 minute ago, CanadianMalodu said:

I didn't deny union govt's support for it. Easy to say that Baboru was just a standard CM. He was not a Botsa Satyanarayana who in his own words said in the past quote &quote "sommulu poyinayi naneti sesdhi" when asked about Volkswagen.

The sectors that you're quoting were more of government investment driven. IDPL acted as a catalyst for generic and bulk pharmaceutical manufacturing in Hyderabad. 

But the boom and growth of Hyderabad was largely due to IT offshoring, which absorbed hundreds of thousands of employees. This needed to have anchor companies with in Hyderabad. The earliest smaller ones were started by NRIs who brought work to offshore and were based out of Maithrivanam /Ameerpet. The Y2K problem pushed every jobless grad school to try luck in Mainframe systems back then, and you have whole lot of grads and diplomas who learned from the coaching institutes that sprung to action in Maithrivanam area. They then moved to US. Though there were SATYAM computers and TCS  there was not any other major anchor companies in Hyd till the time of Baboru. Even though backing from centre did exist, Bangalore was the preferred choice due to its head start. It's only after Telugu IT workers scrambled across US and Hyderabad offices started to grow in numbers did people begin talking of Hyderabad. Then happened Wipro and Microsoft during Baboru's time and he pushed his officers and advisors to these companies which zeroed on Hyderabad after persuasion. This move started to anchor more companies in Hyderabad including the likes of Google. Getting ISB and planning IIIT did their part as well. That's again during the Baboru's time. You got to give the man some credit where he deserves. His pride made him exaggerate these achievements and the boisterous tone was  not appreciated by other politicians as they wanted a pie of the fame as well.

Actually Pharma contributes more than I.T in hyderabad exports ,but anyway that's a different topic.

It's actually useless to talk about what baboru really did without all the numbers and facts.

 

Hyderabad would have been a I.T hub anyway because of I.T boom then,if not for Microsoft ,there would have been other companies ,many companies were looking to setup offshore in India during that time.

there were no babus in Pune(was a much smaller city than hyd) and in benguluru ,what they had was major investments from centre in various institutions.

saying baboru laid foundation for modern hyderabad is a stretch.even S.M krishna did similar things but never have we seen him say he built Bangalore lol.

 

Telugu (and Tamil) people started going to U.S much before baboru even became the C.M ,telugu people connection with I.T started with Bangalore ,many of my family members and relatives settled in u.s in 80's itself(I.T background).

 

[futureofandhra]

15 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Actually Pharma contributes more than I.T in hyderabad exports ,but anyway that's a different topic.

It's actually useless to talk about what baboru really did without all the numbers and facts.

 

Hyderabad would have been a I.T hub anyway because of I.T boom then,if not for Microsoft ,there would have been other companies ,many companies were looking to setup offshore in India during that time.

there were no babus in Pune(was a much smaller city than hyd) and in benguluru ,what they had was major investments from centre in various institutions.

saying baboru laid foundation for modern hyderabad is a stretch.even S.M krishna did similar things but never have we seen him say he built Bangalore lol.

 

 

Telugu (and Tamil) people started going to U.S much before baboru even became the C.M ,telugu people connection with I.T started with Bangalore ,many of my family members and relatives settled in u.s in 80's itself(I.T background).

 

bengaluru before sm krishna is already in to tech

em comedy meedhi

[Teluguredu]

Just now, futureofandhra said:

bengaluru before sm krishna is already in to tech

em comedy meedhi

Hyderabad before baboru was also into tech ,cyber towers started before baboru.just a matter of time before companies set base.

And also I was not comparing  growth rates.

[CanadianMalodu]

47 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Actually Pharma contributes more than I.T in hyderabad exports ,but anyway that's a different topic.

It's actually useless to talk about what baboru really did without all the numbers and facts.

 

Hyderabad would have been a I.T hub anyway because of I.T boom then,if not for Microsoft ,there would have been other companies ,many companies were looking to setup offshore in India during that time.

there were no babus in Pune(was a much smaller city than hyd) and in benguluru ,what they had was major investments from centre in various institutions.

saying baboru laid foundation for modern hyderabad is a stretch.even S.M krishna did similar things but never have we seen him say he built Bangalore lol.

 

 

Telugu (and Tamil) people started going to U.S much before baboru even became the C.M ,telugu people connection with I.T started with Bangalore ,many of my family members and relatives settled in u.s in 80's itself(I.T background).

 

Factually incorrect. The entire pharmaceuticals export worth from India was US $25 billion whereas the the IT exports from Hyderabad alone was $32 billion. That's just for 2022-2023

What numbers do you need? What's your yard stick for measuring administrative proactiveness?

Offshoring to Hyderabad needed a push as the likes of Bangalore dominated the discussions of possible destinations. You need a sales pitch better than Bangalore back then, to win an investment. It's easier said than done. If Microsoft didn't choose Hyderabad, I don't think Google would have chosen either. 

It's not. Who do you think did it then ? I never said Baboru built Hyderabad. But he did indeed cement a base, that resulted in quick turn around of things for Hyderabad.

Where did I deny that ? But it's during and after Baboru time the numbers spiked  multifold times.

[CanadianMalodu]

27 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Hyderabad before baboru was also into tech ,cyber towers started before baboru.just a matter of time before companies set base.

And also I was not comparing  growth rates.

Foundation stone doesn't mean 'started'. By that logic, polavaram credit should got to CM Anjiah who laid it's foundation back in 1980.