CloudFlare Employee Records herself being laid off She want to know the reason

[Konebhar6]

Its really bad HR tried to pin it on her performance making it look like she was not good and that's the reason for firing. It that was the case, its always the manager+hr manager who have a conversation with the person.  

[pakeer_saab]

17 hours ago, sarvayogi said:

They dont go to court and all. Just keep in social media will make the company bad and create some noise

If she doesnt go to court, company can file a case against her for misinformation and damage to its reputation.

[pakeer_saab]

7 hours ago, Jatka Bandi said:

policy and legality are two different things. Policy follow avvakapothe, em chestaru? Fire chestara? Already chesaaru kada! I admire her guts though. Corporates deserve this. 😂

She doesn't know implications of her actions yet

[pakeer_saab]

2 hours ago, Spartan said:

@Vaaaampire  Bay Area lo new trend...also many companies might follow..

Employees to lawsuit waiver sign cheyistunnaru....

instead of going to public courts, they can appeal against a 3rd party company designated bench....and settle the issue there..

last month ma to sign cheyincharu....even if you dont sign, you are automatically enrolled, unless you specifically deny...

also kotta jobs apply chesetappudu this feature is being added in the application...

baita lawsuits lo chala mingutunnaru dabbulu ani....ila veltunnnaru...

4-5 companies vinna bay area lo.

every signature comes with statute of limitations, it is illegal to get signature for future waivers

[Spartan]

3 hours ago, yemdoing said:

severance package not applicable when you are fired ?

is severance package a mandatory thing when you get laid off ?

@yemdoing fired ki no severence

layoff ki istaru

yes severance is not mandatory .. but employers do give that as covering gesture

 

Fired = Employee did something out of policy which caused damage to company financially or reputation etc

Layoff = they are parting ways as they dont have requirement or cannot afford to pay you 

[Spartan]

2 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

every signature comes with statute of limitations, it is illegal to get signature for future waivers

nope many companies are doing it

its not mandatory to sign to accept also.. kaani future reprucussions like laying off untayemo ani bhayapadi aign chestaru.. we are fear mongering

offcourse company has to prove that they did

not fire employee because he did not sign it ani

[sarvayogi]

34 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

If she doesnt go to court, company can file a case against her for misinformation and damage to its reputation.

Oh you think company has the time to focus on this BS...it will fade away in a day or so

Its like CM fighting with a sarpanch 

[Vaaaampire]

5 hours ago, AndhraneedSCS said:

Overall, HR did a poor job. They clearly said she was laid off based on her performance but they could not explain the basis for that decision. Looks like they don't have any reasons, but in that case, they should not have said it is based on performance. 

Keeping aside this particular case.

do u think HR’s monitor day to day activities. All they get is one liner from mgr.

[Aquaman]

5 hours ago, AndhraneedSCS said:

Overall, HR did a poor job. They clearly said she was laid off based on her performance but they could not explain the basis for that decision. Looks like they don't have any reasons, but in that case, they should not have said it is based on performance. 

Maybe its different for different companies...

Ma company lo  covid time lo fire avuthe......

 

call lo manager was there along with HR.. they explained why they took decision 

they showed him proof that he did something wrong.. made him accept that... and told to go

 

[Aquaman]

14 minutes ago, Vaaaampire said:

Keeping aside this particular case.

do u think HR’s monitor day to day activities. All they get is one liner from mgr.

Not one liner.. actually they will have a detailed report from the manager..

but may depends on the company.. some HR's won't go to the specifics 

[Vaaaampire]

45 minutes ago, Aquaman said:

Not one liner.. actually they will have a detailed report from the manager..

but may depends on the company.. some HR's won't go to the specifics 

I used to give one line. The candidate did not meet the expectations required for this role.

anthey

[Aquaman]

11 minutes ago, Vaaaampire said:

I used to give one line. The candidate did not meet the expectations required for this role.

anthey

for interviews, we give what questions we asked.. what he answered  and what we expected kuda... the reason for rejection to HR.. may be process differences between companies. 

[Vaaaampire]

Just now, Aquaman said:

for interviews, we give what questions we asked.. what he answered  and what we expected kuda... the reason for rejection to HR.. may be process differences between companies. 

Interview is different. Firing is different.

Most of the companies have hiring committees which consist of technical mgrs & swes. The more info interviewer provides, the better it is for them.

firing ki mgr okkarey chaalu. Hr ki ila candidate ni fire cheyyali ani chepthey chaalu. They will first check perf feedback and if they think something is wrong, they will reach out for more info

[hyperbole]

Crap organization, when I was let go my director set up a in person 15 minute 1:1 and said they are downsizing and hence cutting people. 
 

apart from the 3 months severance I got additional 3 months for signing the waivers(which is optional) and one can go to court for anything later if one hasn’t signed the waivers.

most of the white collar jobs are at will employments meaning either parties can walk away anytime but there are many  clauses here and there which put employers at risk and are afraid of like some ex Tesla employee suing for racial discrimination or some desi guy suing Cisco about caste discrimination, it becomes increasingly difficult for employers to fight such cases considering even the attorney/legal fees etc and moreover the reputation is at stake, in the bay area news spread faster than a wild fire and most good candidates will not even consider such employers if the news gets through.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-orders-tesla-pay-32-mln-black-ex-worker-us-race-bias-case-2023-04-03/

Most of the suing are on 4 grounds - race, age, health and sexual exploitation/discriminations

[AndhraneedSCS]

15 hours ago, Vaaaampire said:

Keeping aside this particular case.

do u think HR’s monitor day to day activities. All they get is one liner from mgr.

HR will get a one-liner but I think that should include specifics about the employee from Mgr before they fire. Or the Mgr should be on the call to answer specific questions.