pakeer_saab Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 12 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said: example for how normal humans (neurotypicals) can get easily thrown off their game (act weird), when they encounter an autistic person with a completely different stream of consciousness. they act like extreme autistic themselves. its like a guy trying to avoid a drunk or person high on drugs. a less accurate example would be how people react to videos of looting and petty thievery, compared to videos with dictators (Modi) giving bhashan. They are okay with, and even align themselves with Modi and try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but would outright condemn and encourage police action on the looters. You should understand that you were the negative outcome of being Human as anomaly, you should not use yourselves to provide a context for general human you are at best comparable with DNA of a pig, which enjoys and thrives in $hit. Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 Just now, pakeer_saab said: You should understand that you were the negative outcome of being Human as anomaly, you should not use yourselves to provide a context for general human you are at best comparable with DNA of a pig, which enjoys and thrives in $hit. where did I use myself to provide context for 'general human' ra? I hate humans. I'm post human. you are apes to me. Quote
pakeer_saab Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 Just now, Raven_Rayes said: where did I use myself to provide context for 'general human' ra? I hate humans. I'm post human. you are apes to me. thanks for confirming that you are an ape 1 Quote
SaradaChinnodu Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 I just feel that most of the words used in this discussion like 'Soul', 'Mind', 'Consciousness', 'life' may not have any explainable meaning in general as it could vary broadly from person to person based on their life time experiences (self experienced or heard from others), book reading knowledge and their sensitivity to draw a perspective based on all the above said things.... I feel that human spirituality or science is far away from unraveling any of this for us. One possibility I personally feel is to be able meditate and reach a different dimension just to experience for self. I guess it will not be something that can be articulated in general. Unfortunately, we dont have means to do that either scientifically or spiritually. Until that point, mostly it will be tellarindha...thinnama..padukunnama concept...(as in blue print most of us follow in our lives.. as in grow up, educate, job, reproduce, responsibilities and drop off) @dasari4kntr @Raven_Rayes @sarfaroshi2 Quote
trent Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 12 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said: life has the meaning that you give to it, along with the purpose you give to it. you can chose to live a sheltered life like @pakeer_saab obsessed with ancestral sh1t, in which case you can live like a caveman defending his territory like dogs marking their territory with their piss. or you can live like a human with a continuous urge to evolve into a higher being, where you can attempt to expand your consciousness to farthest extent of the universe. a lot of mumbo jumbo I agree. But the least humans can do is to experiment in all directions instead of playing safe. but if you are the kind that doesn't want immigrants pouring into your heaven, because others who don't want that have a convincing argument for it, you are already setting yourself up to be just another unevolved animal in the world. Emo bro inni essays raya daniki time eda vuntadi ? anyway let’s meet up once all Canadians here @jbourne @keviinusa etc Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 Just now, trent said: Emo bro inni essays raya daniki time eda vuntadi ? anyway let’s meet up once all Canadians here @jbourne @keviinusa etc emo bro, may be I have better time management than you. I'll never meet anyone from this db bro. Quote
Thokkalee Posted January 17, 2024 Report Posted January 17, 2024 19 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said: life lo paiki raavadam endho. paiki raakunte aaa life ni emantaav aithe? Watch at 1.10… you will understand Enduku, Emiti, Elaa - 3 core questions 😄 1 Quote
chotu1010 Posted January 18, 2024 Report Posted January 18, 2024 a clothe made of cotton body - clothe mind - each thread put together to make the clothe consciousness - actual cotton, it can also be referred to awareness/soul/atma Quote
dasari4kntr Posted January 18, 2024 Author Report Posted January 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, chotu1010 said: a clothe made of cotton body - clothe mind - each thread put together to make the clothe consciousness - actual cotton, it can also be referred to awareness/soul/atma Interesting analogy... similarly just like..software and hardware also.... but these analogies give some temporary answers...like generic answers...and it will stop our thinking process... for example...cotton can be in its own state...before making thread...and thread it can be its own state before making clothe... all you said is how one form is becoming another form...fundamentals of casuality...but it doesnt clearly answers.. some core questions of.... idealism vs materialism... ..in casuality there is a concept called material, product... (copy pasting my own comment in other thread..) https://www.andhrafriends.com/topic/899657-philosophy-thread/page/6/ casuality అంటే కార్యకారణ సిద్దాంతం… ఇప్పుడు సృష్టిలో ఉన్న ఉన్నవాటిని రెండుగా విభజిస్తే ఒకటి product మరొకటి material…గా చెప్పవచ్చు.. కొన్ని materials నుంచి ఒక product..వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… అలాగే కొన్ని products (+ materials) నుంచి ఇంకో product…వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… ఉదాహరణకి ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ ఒక material…దాని నుండి glass and electronic chip వస్తాయి అవి products … glass and chip ని material గా వాడి మనం మనం Tv చేస్తాం అది ఇంకో product… అలాగే ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ అనే material/product కి అణువులు material …ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి/కార్యాణికి (existence) కి ఒక కారణం (product or material) ఉంది… ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి కారణం వెతుకుతూ పోతే మనం ఆగేది ఈ సృష్టి ఎలా వచ్చింది లేదా మూల కణం ఎక్కడ నుండి వచ్చింది లేదా time zero కి ముందు ఏముంది…వగైరా వగైరా…ప్రస్నలతోనే… ఈ ఆదికారణం (ultimate cause) కి సమాదానం తెలీక ఎవరికి తోచింది వాళ్ళు చెప్పుకుంటూ పోయారు..కోందరు దేవుడు అంటారు…ఆ దేవుని existence కి మూలం(కారణం) ఏది..? ఇదే కార్యకారణ సిద్ధాంతం (causality)…finding the cause for everything exists in the world… Quote
chotu1010 Posted January 18, 2024 Report Posted January 18, 2024 37 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: Interesting analogy... similarly just like..software and hardware also.... but these analogies give some temporary answers...like generic answers...and it will stop our thinking process... for example...cotton can be in its own state...before making thread...and thread it can be its own state before making clothe... all you said is how one form is becoming another form...fundamentals of casuality...but it doesnt clearly answers.. some core questions of.... idealism vs materialism... ..in casuality there is a concept called material, product... (copy pasting my own comment in other thread..) https://www.andhrafriends.com/topic/899657-philosophy-thread/page/6/ casuality అంటే కార్యకారణ సిద్దాంతం… ఇప్పుడు సృష్టిలో ఉన్న ఉన్నవాటిని రెండుగా విభజిస్తే ఒకటి product మరొకటి material…గా చెప్పవచ్చు.. కొన్ని materials నుంచి ఒక product..వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… అలాగే కొన్ని products (+ materials) నుంచి ఇంకో product…వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… ఉదాహరణకి ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ ఒక material…దాని నుండి glass and electronic chip వస్తాయి అవి products … glass and chip ని material గా వాడి మనం మనం Tv చేస్తాం అది ఇంకో product… అలాగే ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ అనే material/product కి అణువులు material …ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి/కార్యాణికి (existence) కి ఒక కారణం (product or material) ఉంది… ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి కారణం వెతుకుతూ పోతే మనం ఆగేది ఈ సృష్టి ఎలా వచ్చింది లేదా మూల కణం ఎక్కడ నుండి వచ్చింది లేదా time zero కి ముందు ఏముంది…వగైరా వగైరా…ప్రస్నలతోనే… ఈ ఆదికారణం (ultimate cause) కి సమాదానం తెలీక ఎవరికి తోచింది వాళ్ళు చెప్పుకుంటూ పోయారు..కోందరు దేవుడు అంటారు…ఆ దేవుని existence కి మూలం(కారణం) ఏది..? ఇదే కార్యకారణ సిద్ధాంతం (causality)…finding the cause for everything exists in the world… I understand your point about causality and products, just like you said Software and hardware and we hear AI machines cannot be conscious enough like humans, when it comes to consciousness do you see clothe, thread, cotton or even deeper, what you want to perceive ? if you want to go deeper what you need, saints, spirituality says when you do not act out of your body and mind (no memory/ego/emotions) you have/act with higher consciousness and awareness. I agree its termed as god. Meditation is one popular practice aimed to gain consciousness, Guess it all burns down to personal experience. idealism vs materialism -just read google definition, I don't know much, but thinking and being are part of same being kadha bro, if there is no being there is no thinking and being kadha. 1 Quote
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