Havingsaidthat Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 7 minutes ago, sarfaroshi2 said: Have you ever seen the near death experienced patients videos ? They say that they can literally see themselves from a top view being take to the hospital and the Loved ones crying near them when they are UN-CONSCIOUS... What do you think it is ? Mind-Brain-Body or Soul ?? I had the same experience when my bulli tip was cut due to urinary tract infection, i was seeing myself from top view … me and nurses smiling. recovering from ketamine anesthesia gives altered state of consciousness Quote
dasari4kntr Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Posted January 16, 2024 13 hours ago, sarfaroshi2 said: Have you ever seen the near death experienced patients videos ? They say that they can literally see themselves from a top view being take to the hospital and the Loved ones crying near them when they are UN-CONSCIOUS... What do you think it is ? Mind-Brain-Body or Soul ?? 20 hours ago, JaiBalayyaaa said: I am not saying what soul is because I am in the process of finding it myself. But the "I" that one seeks to find is not in the body, mind or consciousness because they all are physical entities that can be measured. only few of near death experiences are reliable and worth listening to...most of them are fake... there are numerous reddit pages about astral travelers...most of them suggest drugs...to have out of body experience... lets call it just consciousness...where science also agrees as its product of brain but its still failing to decode and prove... lets not confuse ourselves with other words like soul, spirit, jeevatma, paramatma...etc ...if we are going in that soul route...every tree, animal, bug should have soul...and few of them should be having near death experience... Quote
sarfaroshi2 Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: only few of near death experiences are reliable and worth listening to...most of them are fake... there are numerous reddit pages about astral travelers...most of them suggest drugs...to have out of body experience... lets call it just consciousness...where science also agrees as its product of brain but its still failing to decode and prove... lets not confuse ourselves with other words like soul, spirit, jeevatma, paramatma...etc ...if we are going in that soul route...every tree, animal, bug should have soul...and few of them should be having near death experience... Why do you dismiss or asking to not consider the thought about Soul, Who knows Animals maybe having soul.. Hinduism says to get back to Human body you need to go through a cycle of lives. The freedom of Hinduism is you can harmonically Agree to disagree or disagree to Agree. Just keep the options open and explore all the evidences and Be a Seeker not a Blind Believer of any Book. Quote
dasari4kntr Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Posted January 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, sarfaroshi2 said: Just keep the options open and explore all the evidences and Be a Seeker not a Blind Believer of any Book. thats why i am not looking answers in religion... 1 Quote
pakeer_saab Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 22 hours ago, dasari4kntr said: as per my understanding.. mind and brain are two different words...meanings are different... brain - a physical organ with neurons... mind - your thoughts and feelings... ..Consciousness is connecting bridge....between your mind and brain.. with the word " i " and gives identity..to answer questions like "who am i"...and concludes "నేనూ అంటే.. నేను అని ఆలోచించే నా ఆలోచన" ...which makes you whole package... i could be wrong with my ఆలోచన... I see consciousness as something that is comprised of 2 components 1. chemical component: DNA from ancestors that has memories and experiences encoded 2. Astral component: this is what uses the DNA to drive our future experiences This is why those people with imbalance of above either end up as savants or depressed souls those learn to balance the above components usually find themselves at peace. Quote
trent Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 14 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: thats why i am not looking answers in religion... Asalu e life meaning Enti bro? Asalu enduku e gola job family kids etc Gola? eppudanna anukunnara? Quote
pakeer_saab Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 16 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: thats why i am not looking answers in religion... then you are not going to find answers. keep looking Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 Just now, pakeer_saab said: I see consciousness as something that is comprised of 2 components 1. chemical component: DNA from ancestors that has memories and experiences encoded 2. Astral component: this is what uses the DNA to drive our future experiences This is why those people with imbalance of above either end up as savants or depressed souls those learn to balance the above components usually find themselves at peace. Quote
dasari4kntr Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Posted January 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, trent said: Asalu e life meaning Enti bro? Asalu enduku e gola job family kids etc Gola? eppudanna anukunnara? life ki meaning vundani...old philosophies and religions cheppayi... old days...lo oka human ni choopinchi...every human inte ane type lo generalize chesaru....manavatam ani generalize chesaru... but new age philosophies like existentialism, absurdism..etc said..life has no meaning...every human is unique... google about absurdism... Quote
dasari4kntr Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Posted January 16, 2024 6 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said: then you are not going to find answers. keep looking i know...there are no answers for these...but cant be satisfied with some answer some religion says.... Quote
trent Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 1 minute ago, dasari4kntr said: life ki meaning vundani...old philosophies and religions cheppayi... old days...lo oka human ni choopinchi...every human inte ane type lo generalize chesaru....manavatam ani generalize chesaru... but new age philosophies like existentialism, absurdism..etc said..life has no meaning...every human is unique... google about absurdism... Yes I agree life has no meaning.. but we are all r living in the future not the present. Naku ithe I am living in the future anipisthundi. E roju ni happy ga spend cheyadam nerchukovali 🤨 1 Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 I think first person level self awareness (sentience) is mistaken for having consciousness. Because what we have in analytical philosophy is woefully inadequate to describe experience of being a human person. I think most people do not have consciousness, just sentience. but I also cannot define what consciousness is. Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 consciousness transcends the person. Its an abstract object that is shared with others. sometimes even non-human animals. for eg. this db has a certain consciousness (a disgusting one) that is fed through the posts of random anon people post here. Quote
Thokkalee Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 23 hours ago, dasari4kntr said: as per my understanding.. mind and brain are two different words...meanings are different... brain - a physical organ with neurons... mind - your thoughts and feelings... ..Consciousness is connecting bridge....between your mind and brain.. with the word " i " and gives identity..to answer questions like "who am i"...and concludes "నేనూ అంటే.. నేను అని ఆలోచించే నా ఆలోచన" ...which makes you whole package... i could be wrong with my ఆలోచన... Life lo paiki raavaali anna, denikanna difficult problems ki answers kavalannaa, there are 3 questions you have to ask.. 1) Why 2) What 3) How Every time you face a problem or get tangled on some topic, ask these questions and find answers.. Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Thokkalee said: Life lo paiki raavaali anna, denikanna difficult problems ki answers kavalannaa, there are 3 questions you have to ask.. 1) Why 2) What 3) How Every time you face a problem or get tangled on some topic, ask these questions and find answers.. life lo paiki raavadam endho. paiki raakunte aaa life ni emantaav aithe? Quote
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