New bill to remove Temples like Tirupati outside the control of the Government

[futureofandhra]

3 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Why do you beg government to control? Let individual populations decide what's good for them. Why should other religions have a say in others matters? Why should moslems or Christians have a say in Hindu affairs and vice versa? By definition, religious places are not secular and not meant to be secular, so secular governments should not be a part of them.

do u even understand what i said

where did i mention other religious people to be involved in hindu activities

 

[Vaaaampire]

45 minutes ago, JaiBalayyaaa said:

Why do you trust that Churches and Mosque trusts are not corrupt? 

Churches & mosques ki bhakthula nunchi donations raavu like hundi. Tirupathi ki hundi loney crores vasthayi roju

[Vaaaampire]

57 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Independent institution not necessarily trust unte legal obligations and accountability, auditing undadani evaru chepparu? Ee lekkana Anantha padmanabha swami temples eppudo etthipoyedhi. Kani Ala avvaledhu. 

Anantha padmanabha swami temple tirupathi antha pedhava?

[JaiBalayyaaa]

2 minutes ago, Vaaaampire said:

Churches & mosques ki bhakthula nunchi donations raavu like hundi. Tirupathi ki hundi loney crores vasthayi roju

If they don't get donations, they shouldn't be allowed to exist. Government paying salaries for pastors and imams is ridiculous. 

[Vaaaampire]

8 minutes ago, JaiBalayyaaa said:

If they don't get donations, they shouldn't be allowed to exist. Government paying salaries for pastors and imams is ridiculous. 

That’s different topic bro

[Telugodura456]

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

That's a silly argument. Then why do you think TTD EO is a prestigious post and people compete for it? Where is the money from Sri Vani trust going to? That's in tune of 200+crores plus every year. We don't know what happened to the donated and inherited jewelry of TTD. Both YS and Baboru were involved in swindling of it as per hearsay. 

I'm being more realistic, Hindu temples don't need state beaurocracy to dictate terms. Let temples be independent to decide that. Historically temples were awarded lands by Zamindars locally to keep the temples running. But these lands are taken away by proxies of those that in power. An institutional establishment of independent temples free of state control will give them free hand legally too, and more accountability.

Stupid assumption, temples have had long history and have existed even before democracy came into existence. To think they can't work without government is naive. Temples in US are running without government interference, by your logic they should have defaulted by now, did they actually? 

state bureacracy actually strengthened temples. They should have been independently managed from 50s. Most of these temples would simnply have stopped operating.

It was govts which modernized their operation and made them actually popular. Dont beleive this propoganda.

Sanghis want more controil on temples by govt. Recently uttarakhand took govt control of temples there.

They only attack tirupati because they are not in power here.

[CanadianMalodu]

2 hours ago, futureofandhra said:

do u even understand what i said

where did i mention other religious people to be involved in hindu activities

 

May be you should work on your comprehension skills. Governments are elected by larger populace that has people of multiple religious faiths, thereby constraining them from taking Hindu interests centric decisions. Asking for government interference basically means asking for interference from other faiths as well.

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, Vaaaampire said:

Anantha padmanabha swami temple tirupathi antha pedhava?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-1-trillion-padmanabhaswamy-temple-treasure%3fformat=amp

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, Telugodura456 said:

state bureacracy actually strengthened temples. They should have been independently managed from 50s. Most of these temples would simply have stopped operating.

It was govts which modernized their operation and made them actually popular. Don't believe this propoganda.

Sanghis want more controil on temples by govt. Recently uttarakhand took govt control of temples there.

They only attack tirupati because they are not in power here.

Wrong. Temples predate modern form of governments. They survived Mughal attacks and rulers only because of the faith of practicing Hindus. It's unlikely that so called secular governments made temples any better. Heck, reclaiming temple sites in Ayodhya and Gnanawapsi took so long despite the overwhelming archeological evidence. 

That's only because they get money from temples. By extension of this logic, British gave railways to India, so they are better for India.

No, TTD became a tool for local political parties and their henchmen to squeeze money out of it. There are already rumours that many diamonds and other antique jewelry were robbed and replaced with imitations during YSR and Baboru period. Srivani trust is an outright loot of Hindu devotees. People of other faiths and any elected or appointed representatives that have any electoral connection with them should have no say in the Hindu affairs.  It's vice versa as well.

[bhaigan]

7 hours ago, Piracy Raja said:

South Indian ni 10ga petadanki nikkars edho start chesaru malli 

Doubt aa ?

[bhaigan]

2 hours ago, JaiBalayyaaa said:

If they don't get donations, they shouldn't be allowed to exist. Government paying salaries for pastors and imams is ridiculous. 

LOL Sanghi's

[futureofandhra]

59 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

May be you should work on your comprehension skills. Governments are elected by larger populace that has people of multiple religious faiths, thereby constraining them from taking Hindu interests centric decisions. Asking for government interference basically means asking for interference from other faiths as well.

govt is for maintaining order and govt comprises people from all faiths as well

mosques n churches should be in govt control as well which is not the case

if it is given to trust can u be sure that nothing goes wrong?

who does trust comprises of n why they should be given power

hindu interests centric decisions?

majority  hindus are supporting jaggad 

ee db loney vunnaru so many for various reasons who support him 

india is unique for its population and faiths 

end of the day trust depends on whom , every one knows the answer for it

[CanadianMalodu]

23 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

govt is for maintaining order and govt comprises people from all faiths as well

mosques n churches should be in govt control as well which is not the case

if it is given to trust can u be sure that nothing goes wrong?

who does trust comprises of n why they should be given power

hindu interests centric decisions?

majority  hindus are supporting jaggad 

ee db loney vunnaru so many for various reasons who support him 

india is unique for its population and faiths 

end of the day trust depends on whom , every one knows the answer for it

Good you defined the role of government. Maintain order doesn't mean taking control of religious places. 

Why do you think, there will no mechanisms on place at all to have checks and balances ? How do you think Anantha Padmanabha swami temples survived the wealth without government intervention ? 

Trust's management will be elected solely by Hindu society. Management decisions can be scrutinized through referendum's within Hindu society, a feature that has been long evaded by governments.

Why would you expect government to take Hindu centric stand ? Especially the ones that run for elections, always eye minority votes. How do you determine the government actions are favourable for Hindus. Why should Hindus even seek an approval from government, as long as it's actions doesn't involve any civil or criminal under doings?

Sole reason for supporting Jagan is because people are fed up with Baboru and his visionary approach.

If BAPS is able to run Aksharadham in New Jersey why do you think similar institutions can't run temples in India ? After all, Temples predate the concepts of nation and democracy. 

[JaiBalayyaaa]

1 hour ago, bhaigan said:

LOL Sanghi's

Em antaav

[JaiBalayyaaa]

4 hours ago, Vaaaampire said:

That’s different topic bro

It's the same topic. The topic is about treating temples differently.