How Hyd developed

[psycopk]

Bongu emana kadu… cbn is the man…ee

bongu lo logics ani madichi…

[Vaaaampire]

Hyd’s growth is organic. 
evado okkadi valla ayindi kaadhu. Aa okkalu em peekutharo kooda choosam.

 

[CanadianMalodu]

10 minutes ago, vincent said:

#1 Airport , orr construction started in 2005/6 . Hyderabad was an industrial hub by 1990 s , it is not like it grew out of the blue . Industries like #2 BHEL , ECIL , HAL , BDL continue to employ thousands today and made infrastructure growth possible . These are not small scale units .

Ever wondered why #3 vizag / vijaywada couldn't grow IT

#1 You are conveniently seeing it only since then, not before that. EFKAI guys are not stupid to quote Baboru for no reason. 

#2 Those are central government establishment, mostly not churning out any crazy numbers. They didn't contribute anything to the infrastructure growth that you see today. The metropolis of Hyderabad is purely IT phenomenon, that was made possible due to channelization of FDI and unprecedented growth in infra and  consumption sector, not because of these handful government run companies. 

#3 Because the Baboru, YSR governments channelized the entire FDI flow to Hyderabad also as land was cheap and not really fertile unlike Vijayawada and not limited by coastline as Vizag.  The industries that you have quoted don't employ anymore than 10k all put together. 

[Vaaaampire]

Fun fact: cyberabad shankusthapana chesindi kooda congi govt. ee madhya revantham kooda confirm chesadu. Film industry ni move chesindi kooda congi govt ey.

 

[vincent]

Did you check the revenues of these psus . Even major dams , power plants depend on these psus . Their assets are worth lakhs of crores . They are rightly called the building blocks of modern india . FYI , HYD it exports were 3000 crore in 2004 , grew to 57000 crore by 2014 and 2.4 lakh crore by 2023 .

[RSUCHOU]

3 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Nah, Defence and Machinery instructions neither had the scale nor the pay to accommodate thousands of people at once that propelled the consumption market which made the Hyderabad to be the city that it is now. 

Let's take a look at the numbers on the direct and indirect employment provided by each of this central institutes before 1983, long before Telugu Desam was even founded.

BHEL - Indirect & direct employment to more than 1 lakh people - Ramachandrapuram area became a city in itself

ECIL/NFC - Indirect & Direct employment to more than 70K people - ECIL/AS RAO Nagar area developed into their own independent existence.

ZRTI - Moulali - Railway employees - more than 25K people employment

NIPER/IDPL/CITD - Jeedimetla /Balanagar/Sanath Nagar industrial area- The reason why Pharma and machine tool industry developed in Hyderabad - Direct & indirect employment to more than 1 lakh people

Indian Immunologicals - Contributed to Covid vaccine as well - Provided direct and indirect employment of more than 25K and also the root for the Genome valley in Hyderabad

CCMB/Survey of India - Habsiguda/Uppal - more than 15K direct & indirect employment. Boduppal mallapur nacharam industrial areas are directly because of the central government agencies

DRDL/DRDO/ASL etc - Santosh nagar and the surroundings - More than 2 Lakh direct/indirect employment

The list above is not even 20% of the overall total.

Collectively the central institutes in Hyderabad provided more than 15 Lakh employment before 1982. Considering that the population of Hyderabad in 1982 was around 27 lakhs, the central institutes were the cause of more than 50% of the employment.

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/21275/hyderabad/population

Entire areas flourished and came into existence and popularity. The first significant symptom of having yellow blood is to reject reality, unfortunately. IT was a consequence and not a cause. C-DAC (NCST formerly) was established in 1985 by the government was the pre-cursor for Software in Hyderabad. Did Naidu use the opportunity to promote IT in Hyderabad, the answer would be yes. Was he successful - to an extent(lesser than TN/KA/MH - Bangalore-Pune-Chennai has more S/W exports during CBN's total regime) 

Did he invent cellphone/IT and what not - the answer is a resounding No. Hyderabad was Hyderabad much before him and he had more than optimal development in consideration to the other Indian cities like Bangalore/Chennai & Pune in IT.

[vincent]

 Brahmananda Reddy was truly a forward looking leader . He was responsible for beginning industrial growth in Hyd post independence .

[Teluguredu]

7 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Hyderabad development has Baboru role too. ISB was brought to Hyderabad by Baboru. Airport , ORR were already planned during the initial Baboru tenure. You should give the man credit he deserves.

 chevireddy Bhaskar reddy planned srinivas setu during YSR tenure itself ,should he take the credit for it?

Should hi-tech city credit go to congress then?

 

[Teluguredu]

1 hour ago, vincent said:

 Brahmananda Reddy was truly a forward looking leader . He was responsible for beginning industrial growth in Hyd post independence .

Both sambad and kbr are casteist people who don't really care about people.

[CanadianMalodu]

5 hours ago, RSUCHOU said:

Let's take a look at the numbers on the direct and indirect employment provided by each of this central institutes before 1983, long before Telugu Desam was even founded.

BHEL - Indirect & direct employment to more than 1 lakh people - Ramachandrapuram area became a city in itself

ECIL/NFC - Indirect & Direct employment to more than 70K people - ECIL/AS RAO Nagar area developed into their own independent existence.

ZRTI - Moulali - Railway employees - more than 25K people employment

NIPER/IDPL/CITD - Jeedimetla /Balanagar/Sanath Nagar industrial area- The reason why Pharma and machine tool industry developed in Hyderabad - Direct & indirect employment to more than 1 lakh people

Indian Immunologicals - Contributed to Covid vaccine as well - Provided direct and indirect employment of more than 25K and also the root for the Genome valley in Hyderabad

CCMB/Survey of India - Habsiguda/Uppal - more than 15K direct & indirect employment. Boduppal mallapur nacharam industrial areas are directly because of the central government agencies

DRDL/DRDO/ASL etc - Santosh nagar and the surroundings - More than 2 Lakh direct/indirect employment

The list above is not even 20% of the overall total.

Collectively the central institutes in Hyderabad provided more than 15 Lakh employment before 1982. Considering that the population of Hyderabad in 1982 was around 27 lakhs, the central institutes were the cause of more than 50% of the employment.

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/21275/hyderabad/population

Entire areas flourished and came into existence and popularity. The first significant symptom of having yellow blood is to reject reality, unfortunately. IT was a consequence and not a cause. C-DAC (NCST formerly) was established in 1985 by the government was the pre-cursor for Software in Hyderabad. Did Naidu use the opportunity to promote IT in Hyderabad, the answer would be yes. Was he successful - to an extent(lesser than TN/KA/MH - Bangalore-Pune-Chennai has more S/W exports during CBN's total regime) 

Did he invent cellphone/IT and what not - the answer is a resounding No. Hyderabad was Hyderabad much before him and he had more than optimal development in consideration to the other Indian cities like Bangalore/Chennai & Pune in IT.

What are your sources for these numbers?  looks exaggerated.  BHEL Hyderabad barely employed at around 2000 employees. Run a simple Google search, you will find it. Most of those employees are lower rung who won't be paid upscale wages. BHEL used to be in a distant suburb of lingampally -patancheru area with very little population. The population growth only exploded post establishment of DLF in gachibowli and with more IT space being taken in Madhapur -Kondapur area. Most of that population moved to Lingampally area due to low housing costs. A majority of BHEL employees don't have the PPP to drive the consumption market of Real estate and retail industries. Few who who did broking and/or trading lands have benefited though.

Most of your numbers are off the charts. Cite direct employment numbers, and don't mix it with indirect employment. If it's vendors or other contractors state some names to recheck the numbers. 

Again most of the west Hyderabad is dominated by service sector from IT and ITES services The area ranges from Financial district to almost Ameerpet. This is what drove gentrification of Hyderabad, and none of those institutes that you have mentioned. If not for this Hyderabad would have been way smaller city than that it is now. 

With regards to Baboru, he did what he can. Bangalore  had  a head start way before Hyderabad, so it's sort of unfair.

[Telugodura456]

5 hours ago, RSUCHOU said:

Let's take a look at the numbers on the direct and indirect employment provided by each of this central institutes before 1983, long before Telugu Desam was even founded.

BHEL - Indirect & direct employment to more than 1 lakh people - Ramachandrapuram area became a city in itself

ECIL/NFC - Indirect & Direct employment to more than 70K people - ECIL/AS RAO Nagar area developed into their own independent existence.

ZRTI - Moulali - Railway employees - more than 25K people employment

NIPER/IDPL/CITD - Jeedimetla /Balanagar/Sanath Nagar industrial area- The reason why Pharma and machine tool industry developed in Hyderabad - Direct & indirect employment to more than 1 lakh people

Indian Immunologicals - Contributed to Covid vaccine as well - Provided direct and indirect employment of more than 25K and also the root for the Genome valley in Hyderabad

CCMB/Survey of India - Habsiguda/Uppal - more than 15K direct & indirect employment. Boduppal mallapur nacharam industrial areas are directly because of the central government agencies

DRDL/DRDO/ASL etc - Santosh nagar and the surroundings - More than 2 Lakh direct/indirect employment

The list above is not even 20% of the overall total.

Collectively the central institutes in Hyderabad provided more than 15 Lakh employment before 1982. Considering that the population of Hyderabad in 1982 was around 27 lakhs, the central institutes were the cause of more than 50% of the employment.

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/21275/hyderabad/population

Entire areas flourished and came into existence and popularity. The first significant symptom of having yellow blood is to reject reality, unfortunately. IT was a consequence and not a cause. C-DAC (NCST formerly) was established in 1985 by the government was the pre-cursor for Software in Hyderabad. Did Naidu use the opportunity to promote IT in Hyderabad, the answer would be yes. Was he successful - to an extent(lesser than TN/KA/MH - Bangalore-Pune-Chennai has more S/W exports during CBN's total regime) 

Did he invent cellphone/IT and what not - the answer is a resounding No. Hyderabad was Hyderabad much before him and he had more than optimal development in consideration to the other Indian cities like Bangalore/Chennai & Pune in IT.

Aaapara sodhi. This is not jaffa kula sangham where you can dish out whatever nonsense you can think of.

yendhi BHEL - 1 lakh employees aa ? dhaani total employees are less than 2k. Are you saying indirect employees are 98k ?

ECIL kooda 2-5k ani undhi. From which kula sangham you pulled 70k ?

All these organizations were there from a long time - and they did jack$hit to hyd economy. Other than salary paid to employees these organizations did NOT generate investments to city as profits (if at all any) are controlled by delhi. they decide where the profits go.

The only thing changed in hyd is primarily CBN led IT development. Not only it provided employees to actual laks of people with very high pay. It created entrepreneurs and had high pay employees invest in to businesses around hyd.

 

[no01]

 

11 hours ago, vincent said:

Airport was built only in 2008 , orr in 2008 and pvnr flyover only in 2009 .

That is real construction , not proposal . 

 

11 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

CBN role in Airport development is nominal, he was there at the right time. For the first time, two greenfield airports were planned by the central government in PPP MODE, until then all the airports were built, managed and owned by AAI. Both the airports were finalized at the same time. Instead of paying for the land acquisition, Union civil aviation ministry wanted to offer stake to the state government. This is where CBN entered into the scene and as usual publicized that it was his pet project. 

It was an experiment, which is now planned all over the India. Almost all the new airports and existing airport redevelopments are now on PPP mode.

I am local to Hyd, these so called industries were there since 80's and 90's....daani valla hyd ki peddaga identity lekunde. It was only late 90's things suddenly and drastically changed after IT revolution and CBN hand main undi ikkada. B'lore was already ahead of us and ah time lo default ga anni IT companies akkadike velthunnai....CBN changed it and made sure some were diverted to Hyd. 
Hyd airport - We had lands nearby shamshabad area which we bought in early 90's. So we know everything abt Hyd airport....akkada Indian Forest Dept valla lands, Defense valla lands kuda unde...CBN literally fought with Central govt (Vajpayee helped him) to get NOC and made sure everything is cleared. Ground work already started and they built fencing and leveling of land etc and GMR tho deal kuda set and then he lost elections and YSR continued from where CBN left.

Same thing with ORR, oka point lo maa land kuda pothundi ORR valla ani akkada talk unde....this was in CBN time. 

Eventually ORR map was changed many times and YSR vachaka he too made some changes. 

Mothaniki YSR regime lo both Airport and ORR was officially opened.....evaro bhoomipooja chesthe, he did shankusthapana. 

US consulate in Hyd, may be PVR flyover was under his regime, but Airport and ORR was purely CBN's hardwork.

Construction part is not a big deal here.......accumulating hundreds / thousands acres of land, clearing all court cases, getting permissions from Environmental Protection etc etc, preparing blue prints....ilanti behind the scenes is very tricky.

[RSUCHOU]

2 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

What are your sources for these numbers?  looks exaggerated.  BHEL Hyderabad barely employed at around 2000 employees. Run a simple Google search, you will find it. Most of those employees are lower rung who won't be paid upscale wages. BHEL used to be in a distant suburb of lingampally -patancheru area with very little population. The population growth only exploded post establishment of DLF in gachibowli and with more IT space being taken in Madhapur -Kondapur area. Most of that population moved to Lingampally area due to low housing costs. A majority of BHEL employees don't have the PPP to drive the consumption market of Real estate and retail industries. Few who who did broking and/or trading lands have benefited though.

Most of your numbers are off the charts. Cite direct employment numbers, and don't mix it with indirect employment. If it's vendors or other contractors state some names to recheck the numbers. 

Again most of the west Hyderabad is dominated by service sector from IT and ITES services The area ranges from Financial district to almost Ameerpet. This is what drove gentrification of Hyderabad, and none of those institutes that you have mentioned. If not for this Hyderabad would have been way smaller city than that it is now. 

With regards to Baboru, he did what he can. Bangalore  had  a head start way before Hyderabad, so it's sort of unfair.

The employment numbers I mentioned are both direct & indirect employment. The Telangana industries department has the list of all auxiliary institutions in their website. Government portals like the one below have the list as well in case you want to search.

https://www.indiascienceandtechnology.gov.in/sites/all/themes/vigyan/images/state/TELANGANA.pdf

Direct employment is not a true measure of the impact. Direct and indirect employment is how you always measure the impact. The population of the state and the city also grew exponentially post globalization. You have to take into consideration the growth in population, earning and spending potential, inflation when you talk about real estate price growth. And, real estate price is never a true indicator for the impact, imo. Gentrification is a direct consequence of globalization which opened the private sector, IT/ITES or otherwise. The pharma growth story of Hyderabad is often overlooked. But, as I pointed out, the roots for all these lie in the central government institutes and eco system because of them. 

IT companies started in both the states around the same time. May be a couple of years apart at the maximum. The first IT companies in Hyderabad were already functioning  by the early 1980's. You can refer to Intergraph and the others. So, saying Bangalore had a headstart is not entirely true

[RSUCHOU]

1 hour ago, Telugodura456 said:

Aaapara sodhi. This is not jaffa kula sangham where you can dish out whatever nonsense you can think of.

yendhi BHEL - 1 lakh employees aa ? dhaani total employees are less than 2k. Are you saying indirect employees are 98k ?

ECIL kooda 2-5k ani undhi. From which kula sangham you pulled 70k ?

All these organizations were there from a long time - and they did jack$hit to hyd economy. Other than salary paid to employees these organizations did NOT generate investments to city as profits (if at all any) are controlled by delhi. they decide where the profits go.

The only thing changed in hyd is primarily CBN led IT development. Not only it provided employees to actual laks of people with very high pay. It created entrepreneurs and had high pay employees invest in to businesses around hyd.

 

indirect employment meaning chaduvuko po first nuvvu. nee kula sangham inkekaddaina pettuko ra paccha baccha. babori bajana chesuko poyyi. Facts ante neeku unna aversion DB lo andariki telusu. pakkaku poyi adukora poola chokka

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