National parties are better for minorities/non-dominant caste development than state parties

[venkappa]

State run parties are usually dependent on one main family backed by 1 or 2 main dominant castes associated with the family. Nandamuri-Nara family have Kamma backing. YS family have Reddy backing. Kalvakuntla family have Velama backing. Deve Gowda family have Vokkaliga backing. All these castes dominate their state easily to get all the wealth. Minorities and non-dominant castes can never climb up under their rule.

Gandhi parivar of Congress is different to them all. They are mix of Kashmiri Pandit, Parsi, and Italian heritage. All 3 heritages are quite politically weak, even though Parsis have money power. That means they do not want to be dominated by powerful regional caste-backed families. So they build up leaders from non-dominant castes or minority groups. Indira Gandhi used to do this all the time with AP CMs to break Reddy domination. 

BJP under Modi is appointing CMs from non-dominant groups of each state. Check Haryana, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, and Delhi CMs. They cannot rebel against centre with backing from powerful state castes. 

A national party made appointed a Dalit as CM in 1960s United AP. That could never happen in today's political climate. 

[Thokkalee]

National parties especially Congress used lower castes and minorities as vote bank.. 

[jpismahatma]

3 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

National parties especially Congress used lower castes and minorities as vote bank.. 

used kadhu anna uses.

[Teluguredu]

National parties too have a dominant caste backing them in each state ,vokkaligas , kurubas for ka congress ,lingayats for ka bjp ,jaats for haryana congres.

Changing just cm doesn't mean anything when most of the top brass comes one dominant caste.

Due to lack of any cultural revolution , india is still a continuation of previous empires ,just like British raj was the top administrator back then , now the top administrator is the centre.its not a nation in any meaningful way.

 

[venkappa]

On 8/7/2025 at 3:33 AM, Teluguredu said:

National parties too have a dominant caste backing them in each state ,vokkaligas , kurubas for ka congress ,lingayats for ka bjp ,jaats for haryana congres.

Changing just cm doesn't mean anything when most of the top brass comes one dominant caste.

Due to lack of any cultural revolution , india is still a continuation of previous empires ,just like British raj was the top administrator back then , now the top administrator is the centre.its not a nation in any meaningful way.

 

But state parties are worst with that. Their caste ends up owning everything in the state. The outsiders have to fight for the leftover scraps. 

At least national parties give some opportunity for LCs and minorities to climb the ladder. Look at 90s era UP and Bihar with the Yadav domination. 

[venkappa]

On 8/6/2025 at 8:27 PM, Thokkalee said:

National parties especially Congress used lower castes and minorities as vote bank.. 

But they give it back.

[Redarya]

On 8/5/2025 at 11:45 PM, venkappa said:

State run parties are usually dependent on one main family backed by 1 or 2 main dominant castes associated with the family. Nandamuri-Nara family have Kamma backing. YS family have Reddy backing. Kalvakuntla family have Velama backing. Deve Gowda family have Vokkaliga backing. All these castes dominate their state easily to get all the wealth. Minorities and non-dominant castes can never climb up under their rule.

Gandhi parivar of Congress is different to them all. They are mix of Kashmiri Pandit, Parsi, and Italian heritage. All 3 heritages are quite politically weak, even though Parsis have money power. That means they do not want to be dominated by powerful regional caste-backed families. So they build up leaders from non-dominant castes or minority groups. Indira Gandhi used to do this all the time with AP CMs to break Reddy domination. 

BJP under Modi is appointing CMs from non-dominant groups of each state. Check Haryana, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, and Delhi CMs. They cannot rebel against centre with backing from powerful state castes. 

A national party made appointed a Dalit as CM in 1960s United AP. That could never happen in today's political climate. 

Emayina sollu. AP started getting recognition after the emergence of local parties. Anthaku mundu antha Madrasis

[venkappa]

19 hours ago, Redarya said:

Emayina sollu. AP started getting recognition after the emergence of local parties. Anthaku mundu antha Madrasis

Recognition for what? You were already a state. Back then you were Madrasis. Now you are all southies. 

Now its like cowbelt where a bunch of caste dominated parties hijack entire state resources for their kulam. 

[Pavanonline]

Inkem takkuvayindi anna, intlo pani vallu kuda free ivvalna

[Teluguredu]

1 hour ago, venkappa said:

Recognition for what? You were already a state. Back then you were Madrasis. Now you are all southies. 

Now its like cowbelt where a bunch of caste dominated parties hijack entire state resources for their kulam. 

It's only TDP ,brs ,ycp ,jdu and cowbelt parties in U.P and bihar .

 parties in Cowbelt are a little different as Yadavs ,kurmis are b.c's and were under oppression by thakurs and brahmin nexus these parties gave chance to minorities and other lower caste people.

Other regional parties might have strong votebank from certain castes but not single caste dominated.

[Teluguredu]

But the leaders in Congress were professionals or they were complete bootlickers of Gandhi like nedurumalli janardhan reddy. ,even the guy who started TDP nadendla Bhaskar rao was also a professional without these chillar caste feeling.

[american_desi]

On 8/6/2025 at 11:03 PM, Teluguredu said:

National parties too have a dominant caste backing them in each state ,vokkaligas , kurubas for ka congress ,lingayats for ka bjp ,jaats for haryana congres.

Changing just cm doesn't mean anything when most of the top brass comes one dominant caste.

Due to lack of any cultural revolution , india is still a continuation of previous empires ,just like British raj was the top administrator back then , now the top administrator is the centre.its not a nation in any meaningful way.

 

ఒరేయ్ తూరకబాబు (Teluguredu ఉరఫ్ Turakavodu), ఇండియా గురించి చెడ్డగా  తెగ వాగుతున్నావు, ఇండియాలో ఉంటూ. 

ముందు పాలస్తీనా అనేదే లేదు చరిత్రలో అని తెలుసుకో 

 

 

 

[venkappa]

On 9/8/2025 at 10:10 PM, Teluguredu said:

It's only TDP ,brs ,ycp ,jdu and cowbelt parties in U.P and bihar .

 parties in Cowbelt are a little different as Yadavs ,kurmis are b.c's and were under oppression by thakurs and brahmin nexus these parties gave chance to minorities and other lower caste people.

Other regional parties might have strong votebank from certain castes but not single caste dominated.

Minorities and LCs did not benefit under those parties. Only the dominant guy's kulam got the benefits. Whether it's AP, Bihar, Telangana, or Karnataka.

JDU used to be national level party. Then Deve Gowda parivar took over and become Vokkaliga party. No way that party can be trusted to deliver good governance. Congress and BJP may not be ideal but janalu trust them more than the one caste party.

[adavilo_baatasaari]

బాపు ఎగిరెగిరి తంతాడు.  BRS is a national Party. 😂