UREA IMPORT - WEF - PARIS ACCORD-INDIA

[CanadianMalodu]

4th largest economy by GDP, can't be self sufficient in Urea production , when 50% of population is farming dependent. Indhulo malli socialist choke hold daridram. 

Carbamide reaction is a very straight forward, not even complicated at all, no issues with patents or anything. 

Government gives you stupid excuses like natural gas shortages. Russia nunchi vache gas vadatledhu. Asalu India doesn't even need natural gas. India has large coal reserves. You can simply put it to use by gasification and then make Carbamide. Btw., China idhe method use chesthadhi. Want to reduce deficit with China, start with something as simple as Urea. 

Alas, India is a party to Paris ACCORD, net zero UN agenda and is playing WEF game. Daridraniki Coal kooda Australia nunchi import chesukunte situation techaru. 

Government chethane farmers ki bokka vesthunnaru 

@Mancode @Teluguredu @A1startarak @Android_Halwa

[Teluguredu]

Probably cost is the problem with coal to urea or else I see no reason why no one would produce urea domestically.

[Android_Halwa]

The problem is urea manufacturing facilities. Most of them are closed and were the ones set up in soviet era. Restricted private players during the license raj era and we do not have many platers in this area. 
 

Secondly, the facilities that are existing are mostly run in naphtha and which is again an import commodity. 
 

Urea is a heavily restricted product by the govt. So naturally private players are this as an hindrance and makes unattractive to manufacture urea in India, just like alcohol. 

[CanadianMalodu]

46 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Probably cost is the problem with coal to urea or else I see no reason why no one would produce urea domestically.

It's not the cost. It's actually cheaper and easier for India to make Urea. It's the PARIS ACCORD, that India signed in 2016 by MODI. 

India can't use coal because it supposedly increases our emissions, all while China does it routinely.

[CanadianMalodu]

39 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

The problem is urea manufacturing facilities. Most of them are closed and were the ones set up in soviet era. Restricted private players during the license raj era and we do not have many platers in this area. 
 

Secondly, the facilities that are existing are mostly run in naphtha and which is again an import commodity. 
 

Urea is a heavily restricted product by the govt. So naturally private players are this as an hindrance and makes unattractive to manufacture urea in India, just like alcohol. 

Andhuke socialist daridram ani annadhi. 

But you don't even need naptha. Why do you need to keep importing stuff, when you can simply use Coal to make it. China doesn't import gas or naphtha for making Carbamide. They just use gassified coal to make Carbamide. 

Main issue is India has ties its own hands by signing PARIS ACCORD in 2016. But WEF infiltrated Government doesn't have guts to do it. 

[Android_Halwa]

Just now, CanadianMalodu said:

Andhuke socialist daridram ani annadhi. 

But you don't even need naptha. Why do you need to keep importing stuff, when you can simply use Coal to make it. China doesn't import gas or naphtha for making Carbamide. They just use gassified coal to make Carbamide. 

Main issue is India has ties its own hands by signing PARIS ACCORD in 2016. But WEF infiltrated Government doesn't have guts to do it. 

Yeah, although we moved away from this socialist system..some sectors are still suffering to come out of the era. Fertilizers is one such area.. 

Most plants in India operate on Naptha. And naptha prices skyrocketed and price of urea is now cheaper if imported, gradually market shifted to importing. 

Heavily controlled because of nature of the product, hike and unavailability of urea may also lead to unrest….such is the impact and so it is heavily controlled. No private player wants to manufacture because of monopoly, Govt is the sole buyer and supplier like alochol. And payments will not be on time and will be under pressure all the time…so naturally makes unattractive for private players..!

 

But edi emaina, Babu garu single phone call tho 50,000 tonnes urea arrange chesindu…

[CanadianMalodu]

20 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Yeah, although we moved away from this socialist system..some sectors are still suffering to come out of the era. Fertilizers is one such area.. 

Most plants in India operate on Naptha. And naptha prices skyrocketed and price of urea is now cheaper if imported, gradually market shifted to importing. 

Heavily controlled because of nature of the product, hike and unavailability of urea may also lead to unrest….such is the impact and so it is heavily controlled. No private player wants to manufacture because of monopoly, Govt is the sole buyer and supplier like alochol. And payments will not be on time and will be under pressure all the time…so naturally makes unattractive for private players..!

 

But edi emaina, Babu garu single phone call tho 50,000 tonnes urea arrange chesindu…

You mean this ?😅

Goosebumps moment to Samara @psycopk

[CanadianMalodu]

24 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Yeah, although we moved away from this socialist system..some sectors are still suffering to come out of the era. Fertilizers is one such area.. 

Most plants in India operate on Naptha. And naptha prices skyrocketed and price of urea is now cheaper if imported, gradually market shifted to importing. 

Heavily controlled because of nature of the product, hike and unavailability of urea may also lead to unrest….such is the impact and so it is heavily controlled. No private player wants to manufacture because of monopoly, Govt is the sole buyer and supplier like alochol. And payments will not be on time and will be under pressure all the time…so naturally makes unattractive for private players..!

 

But edi emaina, Babu garu single phone call tho 50,000 tonnes urea arrange chesindu…

You can simply make Syngas.

Syngas can be subjected to a redox reaction 

So, CO+H2 + H20 -> CO2 + H2 (feedstock).

 

H2 +N2 -> AMMONIA (N2+ 3H2 -> 2NH3)

 

2NH3 +CO2  -> NH2COONH4 (Ammonium carbamate or CARBAMIDE) OR UREA. 

This is the exact process that CHINA USES. 

You DONT NEED NAPTHA as a FEEDSTOCK to make H2. Its all bullshit given to us by compromised Indian government to keep India an energy dependent importing nation. 

@Teluguredu

[paaparao]

Nagarjuna Fertilizers makes Urea in Kakinada. vallemo less than 50% capacity lo plants run chesthunnaru becoz of high gas prices. we have gas availability in KG basin but reliance takes away that.

[CanadianMalodu]

2 minutes ago, paaparao said:

Nagarjuna Fertilizers makes Urea in Kakinada. vallemo less than 50% capacity lo plants run chesthunnaru becoz of high gas prices. we have gas availability in KG basin but reliance takes away that.

Yes, that's another deliberate move. They take away 1/3 of India's gas production coming KG basin. 

[A1startarak]

2 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

4th largest economy by GDP, can't be self sufficient in Urea production , when 50% of population is farming dependent. Indhulo malli socialist choke hold daridram. 

Carbamide reaction is a very straight forward, not even complicated at all, no issues with patents or anything. 

Government gives you stupid excuses like natural gas shortages. Russia nunchi vache gas vadatledhu. Asalu India doesn't even need natural gas. India has large coal reserves. You can simply put it to use by gasification and then make Carbamide. Btw., China idhe method use chesthadhi. Want to reduce deficit with China, start with something as simple as Urea. 

Alas, India is a party to Paris ACCORD, net zero UN agenda and is playing WEF game. Daridraniki Coal kooda Australia nunchi import chesukunte situation techaru. 

Government chethane farmers ki bokka vesthunnaru 

@Mancode @Teluguredu @A1startarak @Android_Halwa

Great analysis hope you write this to a some Indian journalist, no ones in India talking about this .

[Teluguredu]

27 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

You can simply make Syngas.

Syngas can be subjected to a redox reaction 

So, CO+H2 + H20 -> CO2 + H2 (feedstock).

 

H2 +N2 -> AMMONIA (N2+ 3H2 -> 2NH3)

 

2NH3 +CO2  -> NH2COONH4 (Ammonium carbamate or CARBAMIDE) OR UREA. 

This is the exact process that CHINA USES. 

You DONT NEED NAPTHA as a FEEDSTOCK to make H2. Its all bullshit given to us by compromised Indian government to keep India an energy dependent importing nation. 

@Teluguredu

Yeah then the main problem could be paris pact which doesn't allow india to develop a coal based urea production environment.

 

The other problem is eco system,  india has been relying on russia for a long time ,now to kickstart an entire supply chain requires a lot of money and government already subsidises urea heavily which means the costs will add up even more.

[CanadianMalodu]

2 hours ago, A1startarak said:

Great analysis hope you write this to a some Indian journalist, no ones in India talking about this .

No mainstream one will write on these things, as they're all WEF puppets. 

[CanadianMalodu]

2 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

Yeah then the main problem could be paris pact which doesn't allow india to develop a coal based urea production environment.

 

The other problem is eco system,  india has been relying on russia for a long time ,now to kickstart an entire supply chain requires a lot of money and government already subsidises urea heavily which means the costs will add up even more.

India is dependent on Russia only for naphtha as a FEEDSTOCK. If India swaps it by making Syngas from coal, India doesn't need to import anything. 

[AndhraneedSCS]

We will do onething. We will use Solar energy