Aa Kutumbam Kosam Desham Bali....

[gundubabu]

[quote name='Alexander' timestamp='1362454119' post='1303367270']

gujarat nri's antey kirana kottu lo pani chesey vallu anaa mari [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi6.gif?1290061602[/img][/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color]
[/quote]us uk lo kirana kotlo pani chesina dollar lu sampadincha vachu . . [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi6.gif?1290061602[/img]

[posani]

[quote name='LeeHarveyOswald' timestamp='1362453834' post='1303367255']
[b]naku enduku ledu ?[/b] I can judge..em raja droham case esthava na meeda ? India erri **** country antaniki , nuv nannu personal ga abuse cheyataniki chala diff undi annai...India meeda neeku enni rights unnayo naku anne unnai...kani nannu anataniki neeku rights levu...addam ga matladi , nenu matladinde correct , ninnu judge chestha ante matram neeku mental disorder undani nenu fix avutha !
[/quote]

yes neku ledu ani nenu anta...addam ga vadinchatam kaadu...enti neeku desam emi ivvaledu kaani neku desam meeda samana hakkulu kavala? nuvve annav ga India naku bongu ichindi adi idi ani so a argument tho chuste neku ledu anta...neku desam, patriotism ane concepts bongu la kanipinchi nappudu neku evadu ra samana hakkulu ichedi...muskoni dobbey

[gundubabu]

[quote name='posani' timestamp='1362455165' post='1303367329']


neku telisina kufli communist lens lonchi chusina desa charitra ki samadanam cheppalsina avasaram naku assalu ledu
[/quote]manavi only yellow goggles anukunta[img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi6.gif?1290061602[/img]

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1362454621' post='1303367303']

Nenu hypothetical ga cheppamanna kaani, supernatural ga kaadu....here are the implications/ my comments in red for each of your comment, which work against each of the so-called solutions.

demolish all the holy places ...[color=#ff0000]Ippudu unna piece ee anthantha mathram, at least some people are believers of God and Piece....ika ee solution implement chesthe antha [b]RED[/b] ee...[/color]

give the land to poor people ---T[color=#ff0000]his is agreed to some extent, but its subjective, 1. What land? It should be the illegal land earned by politicians or old-landlords who earned the land illegally...it should not be the hard earned land of someone..2. Define poor, I hate the idea of defining poor just by Cast..religion..etc...it should be beased on their monthly income...assets they own..."poor" needs to be meticulously classified on this basis and should get benefitted....Having said that, how effective you can accomplish these two in a country like India...so your solution is half-baked[/color]

, ban property right...[color=#ff0000]again subjective, again concentrate on illegal assets/ properities...not on someone's hardearned properities.....so your solution is half-baked[/color]

distribute the land equally...[color=#ff0000]to whom?matter covered in above points...[/color]

take all the Foreign investments i slowly into govt hand over...[color=#ff0000]with this mindset...there wouldn't have been any software engineers in India...this would have increased the unemployment drastically...for that matter offshore software development from product based countries like USA has only caused the craze for Indian workers else where...that's the reason why we have jobs in USA...and other parts of the world...This solution is absolutely rediculous[/color]

do not give power over the natural resources to any private organization / company...[color=#ff0000]naaku oopika ledu [/color]
ban reservations [color=#006400]- strongly agreed[/color], [color=#ff0000]but how this impact so-called 7 sisters....India out-of-shape...[/color]

, slowly nationalize all the sectors which are basic for a human being -[color=#ff0000] Enduku inka corruption increase cheyyataanka?[/color]

...transform the country slowly from semi capitalistic into supreme govt authoritative..- [color=#ff0000]Enduku inka corruption [/color].No state taxes - [color=#ff0000]Enduku inka basic public needs lekunda cheyyadanika? [/color]every thing will be centralized...[color=#ff0000]This has Broader meaning I can't comment[/color]
[/quote]
We are products of our environment, particularly of the economic system in which we live. People living under feudalism are motivated by feudal motives and think them natural and fixed, just as people living under capitalism are motivated by capitalist motives and think those natural and fixed. Occasionally in history people undergo what is now called a "paradigm shift" in values, based on an economic transformation. If people's values have changed radically in the past, they are certain to change again radically in the future.

You are now motivated by capitalism and are in a notion that attracting investments , setting up the infrastructure will resolve poverty which is a utter non sense...


Hypothetical ga neeku cheppataniki I need some time...which Marx and Engels successfully have given the solution and USSR attained some sort of communism by 1980s...Give me some time!

[Khadgam]

[quote name='PMR aka OM' timestamp='1362455230' post='1303367337']
simple terms lo . KADUPU NINDINA vaadu . KADUPU MAndinattuga fell ayyi cheppadam chala easy gaa untadhi...



Adhey nijamgaaney KADPU Mandina vaadu. vaadi KAdupuki Thindi ela dorukutunda ani choostaru..
For Eg.. ippudu manaki. job ledhu.. Consultancy gguest house. ledhu.. bank lo savings levu anuko..

appudu ikakdiki avchi intha racha chestama.. Thindi , jeetham mukhyam Devuda anukutnu.. velli edho oka GAS Station lo ayina pani chesukuntamu..
[/quote]
Baaga cheppav

[color=#b22222][size=5]THATS THE LIFE[/size][/color]


With that note lets end the topic....and be more responsible while talking in public forums....No personal offences on anyone...Puri jagan cheppinatttu evaniki vaade hero...but just want to add my 2 cents...until it doesn't have negative social impacts..

Cheers...

[Truth_Believer]

[quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1362454621' post='1303367303']

Nenu hypothetical ga cheppamanna kaani, supernatural ga kaadu....here are the implications/ my comments in red for each of your comment, which work against each of the so-called solutions.

demolish all the holy places ...[color=#ff0000]Ippudu unna piece ee anthantha mathram, at least some people are believers of God and Piece....ika ee solution implement chesthe antha [b]RED[/b] ee...[/color]

give the land to poor people ---T[color=#ff0000]his is agreed to some extent, but its subjective, 1. What land? It should be the illegal land earned by politicians or old-landlords who earned the land illegally...it should not be the hard earned land of someone..2. Define poor, I hate the idea of defining poor just by Cast..religion..etc...it should be beased on their monthly income...assets they own..."poor" needs to be meticulously classified on this basis and should get benefitted....Having said that, how effective you can accomplish these two in a country like India...so your solution is half-baked[/color]

, ban property right...[color=#ff0000]again subjective, again concentrate on illegal assets/ properities...not on someone's hardearned properities.....so your solution is half-baked[/color]

distribute the land equally...[color=#ff0000]to whom?matter covered in above points...[/color]

take all the Foreign investments i slowly into govt hand over...[color=#ff0000]with this mindset...there wouldn't have been any software engineers in India...this would have increased the unemployment drastically...for that matter offshore software development from product based countries like USA has only caused the craze for Indian workers else where...that's the reason why we have jobs in USA...and other parts of the world...This solution is absolutely rediculous[/color]

do not give power over the natural resources to any private organization / company...[color=#ff0000]naaku oopika ledu [/color]
ban reservations [color=#006400]- strongly agreed[/color], [color=#ff0000]but how this impact so-called 7 sisters....India out-of-shape...[/color]

, slowly nationalize all the sectors which are basic for a human being -[color=#ff0000] Enduku inka corruption increase cheyyataanka?[/color]

...transform the country slowly from semi capitalistic into supreme govt authoritative..- [color=#ff0000]Enduku inka corruption [/color].No state taxes - [color=#ff0000]Enduku inka basic public needs lekunda cheyyadanika? [/color]every thing will be centralized...[color=#ff0000]This has Broader meaning I can't comment[/color]
[/quote]

Khadgam ....Fantastic view points . Ending privatization will be the beginning of government corruption and endless inefficiency bringing us the memories of License Raj.

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='posani' timestamp='1362455291' post='1303367346']

yes neku ledu ani nenu anta...addam ga vadinchatam kaadu...enti neeku desam emi ivvaledu kaani neku desam meeda samana hakkulu kavala? nuvve annav ga India naku bongu ichindi adi idi ani so a argument tho chuste neku ledu anta...neku desam, patriotism ane concepts bongu la kanipinchi nappudu neku evadu ra samana hakkulu ichedi...muskoni dobbey
[/quote]

Chetha kanollu abuse chestharu annai...nenu cheppedi vini matladu...India lo puttalani nenu korukoledu...India lo puttinanduku , India naakem ivvaledu...Ippudu unna India ni choosthe every system is a failure , passport ravalante 6 months , oka ordinary man ki nyayam ga jaragalsina panulu jaragalante lancham , lakshala kotlu dochukuntunna politicians , manushula prananiki value ledu..anduke India erripooku country anna...nuv nannu analante , nalo kooda inni bad qualities undali...nen job chesthanna , na tindi nenu tintanna , evadi sommu dochukotam , evadiki anyayam cheyatledu !

Cheppu , India ni tittataniki naku reasons unnai , nannu tittataniki neekem unnai ? pakkanodini Boothulu key board unna prathodu tidathadu...amma ki abba ki puttinodu straight ga answer chesthadu..choice is urs !

[Khadgam]

[quote name='LeeHarveyOswald' timestamp='1362455492' post='1303367364']
We are products of our environment, particularly of the economic system in which we live. People living under feudalism are motivated by feudal motives and think them natural and fixed, just as people living under capitalism are motivated by capitalist motives and think those natural and fixed. Occasionally in history people undergo what is now called a "paradigm shift" in values, based on an economic transformation. If people's values have changed radically in the past, they are certain to change again radically in the future.

You are now motivated by capitalism and are in a notion that attracting investments , setting up the infrastructure will resolve poverty which is a utter non sense...


[color=#ff0000]Hypothetical ga neeku cheppataniki I need some time...which Marx and Engels successfully have given the solution and USSR attained some sort of communism by 1980s...Give me some time![/color]
[/quote]

OK I will give you time, but I am afraid you just made a self-goal by saying USSR....whats the picture of USSR in world map today....

[BobbyFischer]

@ Posani

Nuv entha mental disorder lo unnavante..nee ideology ni oppukokapothe personal abuse ki diguthunnav..ikkada nenu oka country gurinchi , dani lo fail aina system gurinchi matladathanna..na ideology chebthanna...neku nachakapothe na thoughts ni condemn cheyi...nannu nalugu tidithe ne ego satisfy avatam tappa nenemaina change avuthana ?

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1362455769' post='1303367391']

OK I will give you time, but I am afraid you just made a self-goal by saying USSR....whats the picture of USSR in world map today....
[/quote]

It's not a self - goal..I will tell u the reason behind USSR collapse as well..

[gundubabu]

[quote name='LeeHarveyOswald' timestamp='1362455720' post='1303367384']


Chetha kanollu abuse chestharu annai...nenu cheppedi vini matladu...India lo puttalani nenu korukoledu...India lo puttinanduku , India naakem ivvaledu...Ippudu unna India ni choosthe every system is a failure , passport ravalante 6 months , oka ordinary man ki nyayam ga jaragalsina panulu jaragalante lancham , lakshala kotlu dochukuntunna politicians , manushula prananiki value ledu..anduke India erripooku country anna...nuv nannu analante , nalo kooda inni bad qualities undali...nen job chesthanna , na tindi nenu tintanna , evadi sommu dochukotam , evadiki anyayam cheyatledu !

Cheppu , India ni tittataniki naku reasons unnai , nannu tittataniki neekem unnai ? pakkanodini Boothulu key board unna prathodu tidathadu...amma ki abba ki puttinodu straight ga answer chesthadu..choice is urs !
[/quote]gp[img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi6.gif?1290061602[/img]

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='Alexander' timestamp='1362454701' post='1303367306']
appudu evvadu pani cheyakunda intlo chillax avuthaaru ...[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi6.gif?1290061602[/img][/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] vaadu entha kastapadina prathi phalam vaadiki dakkadhu antey [/font][/color]
[/quote]

patriotism unnolla ki self development kante country develop aithe chalu kada...Communism will lead to nation's development...capitalism emo naku asthulu kavali na muni manavadi velu vedichina menalludiki asthulu kavali ani alochinche laga chesthadi janala ni..

[gundubabu]

[quote name='LeeHarveyOswald' timestamp='1362455905' post='1303367402']
@ Posani

Nuv entha mental disorder lo unnavante..nee ideology ni oppukokapothe personal abuse ki diguthunnav..ikkada nenu oka country gurinchi , dani lo fail aina system gurinchi matladathanna..na ideology chebthanna...neku nachakapothe na thoughts ni condemn cheyi...nannu nalugu tidithe ne ego satisfy avatam tappa nenemaina change avuthana ?
[/quote][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi6.gif?1290061602[/img]

[tom bhayya]

[quote name='LeeHarveyOswald' timestamp='1362456165' post='1303367426']

patriotism unnolla ki self development kante country develop aithe chalu kada...Communism will lead to nation's development...capitalism emo naku asthulu kavali na muni manavadi velu vedichina menalludiki asthulu kavali ani alochinche laga chesthadi janala ni..
[/quote]
manushullo ravaali adhi.....daaniki e isms tho sambandham emundhi

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='Alexander' timestamp='1362456293' post='1303367436']
manushullo ravaali adhi.....daaniki e isms tho sambandham emundhi
[/quote]

Communism anedi rest of isms laga pakkanodi meeda ki ruddali ane ism kadu...okadi swardam kosam kanipettina ism kadu....asalu peda vallu , unna vallu ela vacharu ane analysis nundi vachindi...for example idi varaku rajulu unde vallu , rajarikam anedi entha erripookthavamo neeku telusu... history lo alanti ficha fook systems anevati valla jarigina chedu gurinchi communism clear ga explain chesindi where as capitalism anedi , neekentha ? nakentha ? ane concept nundi vachindi..profit anedi capitalism concept lo core logic ! janalu enduku pedollu ayyaru unollu ayyaru anedi capitalism ki avasaram ledu...pettubadi ki dabbu undali anede valla main agenda