sattipandu Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Na personal observations. Tg lo 85% belong to backward and minorities.42% of population lives in and around Hyd. No one cares or bothers about caste in Hyd . Also telagana dalits mostly madigas didnt get a fair share becuase of their classification as SC but combined with malas . The creation of Telangana is likely to solve a long-standing social dispute in Andhra Pradesh: the demand for a scheduled caste sub-quota by the Madiga caste. To put it simply, Madigas, the most numerous Dalit caste in Andhra, feel that the benefits of reservation have been cornered by the more advanced Mala caste, another prominent Dalit community in the state. Thus, they have been demanding bifurcation of the SC quota in the state. The Usha Mehra Commission constituted to examine the Andhra situation found merit in the grievance and recommended sub-quotas to ensure that the weaker communities among the Dalits did not get left out. However, things haven’t moved either way five years after the report. There are two reasons why the dispute is likely to ebb with the announcement of Telangana. One, Madigas outnumber Malas in Telangana, while Malas outnumber Madigas in coastal Andhra. This means their domains of domination will get separated. “In coastal Andhra 58 % of the SCs are Malas, while Madigas constitute 20 % of the SCs there. In Telangana the situation gets reversed. In Rayalseema, their populations are 45-45%,” says Yagati Chinna Rao, an expert on the Andhra Pradesh Dalit movement who teaches at JNU.http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/Popup/2013/8/01_08_pg13d.jpg Rao cites another reason why the dispute is likely to ease out. He says that the levels of advancement of the two warring Dalit castes are similar in Telangana and coastal Andhra. The backwardness of Madigas, in other words, is also because they are found in large numbers in backward Telangana. “Coastal Andhra was under the British and saw Christian missionary educational efforts and better irrigation, which Telangana did not enjoy historically. This is the reason why Malas are better off than Madigas. But with the state’s bifurcation, this disparity would end in the states that are created,” Rao adds. The Mehra commission found the representation of the Malas in the IAS and the IPS ranging from 76% to 86% against 13% to 23% for the Madiga caste. Numerically, however, the Malas constitute 41% of Andhra’s SC population against the Madigas 49%. Good info and True that "42% of population lives in and around Hyd. No one cares or bothers about caste in Hyd ."
Rudra_prathap Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 kulala gurinchi threads endi raaa kufli nayalaa item badkovsss thred lu enduku ra eedaa :3D_Smiles_38: :3D_Smiles_38: Narsi Gadu anthe
johnny87 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Narsi Gadu anthe ilaanti gabbu baadkaavs ni guddalu oodaa theesi raod meeda kukkaa 10gulu 10galli..
lazybugger Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 Na personal observations. Tg lo 85% belong to backward and minorities. 42% of population lives in and around Hyd. No one cares or bothers about caste in Hyd . Also telagana dalits mostly madigas didnt get a fair share becuase of their classification as SC but combined with malas . The creation of Telangana is likely to solve a long-standing social dispute in Andhra Pradesh: the demand for a scheduled caste sub-quota by the Madiga caste. To put it simply, Madigas, the most numerous Dalit caste in Andhra, feel that the benefits of reservation have been cornered by the more advanced Mala caste, another prominent Dalit community in the state. Thus, they have been demanding bifurcation of the SC quota in the state. The Usha Mehra Commission constituted to examine the Andhra situation found merit in the grievance and recommended sub-quotas to ensure that the weaker communities among the Dalits did not get left out. However, things haven’t moved either way five years after the report. There are two reasons why the dispute is likely to ebb with the announcement of Telangana. One, Madigas outnumber Malas in Telangana, while Malas outnumber Madigas in coastal Andhra. This means their domains of domination will get separated. “In coastal Andhra 58 % of the SCs are Malas, while Madigas constitute 20 % of the SCs there. In Telangana the situation gets reversed. In Rayalseema, their populations are 45-45%,” says Yagati Chinna Rao, an expert on the Andhra Pradesh Dalit movement who teaches at JNU.http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/Popup/2013/8/01_08_pg13d.jpg Rao cites another reason why the dispute is likely to ease out. He says that the levels of advancement of the two warring Dalit castes are similar in Telangana and coastal Andhra. The backwardness of Madigas, in other words, is also because they are found in large numbers in backward Telangana. “Coastal Andhra was under the British and saw Christian missionary educational efforts and better irrigation, which Telangana did not enjoy historically. This is the reason why Malas are better off than Madigas. But with the state’s bifurcation, this disparity would end in the states that are created,” Rao adds. The Mehra commission found the representation of the Malas in the IAS and the IPS ranging from 76% to 86% against 13% to 23% for the Madiga caste. Numerically, however, the Malas constitute 41% of Andhra’s SC population against the Madigas 49%. okay. thanks for responding to atleast something close to what I asked about. so nee prakaram, majority pop lives around Hyd, and they don't face discrimination (atleast within the TG community), so nobody has bothered about caste. nuvvu cheppina AP/TG madigas are slightly unrelated to what I asked. better way to see if caste suppression exists in TG, is to see how much land ownership is spread out across all castes.
lazybugger Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 Good info and True that "42% of population lives in and around Hyd. No one cares or bothers about caste in Hyd ." isn't the fact that such a huge population lives around one city proof that they can't live in towns nearby? why is it so?
donganaaK Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 okay. thanks for responding to atleast something close to what I asked about. so nee prakaram, majority pop lives around Hyd, and they don't face discrimination (atleast within the TG community), so nobody has bothered about caste. nuvvu cheppina AP/TG madigas are slightly unrelated to what I asked. better way to see if caste suppression exists in TG, is to see how much land ownership is spread out across all castes. neeku kaavalsina details anni sri krishna commission report lo clear ga unnay , including all the stats and graphs ... adi chudu interest untey :giggle:
lazybugger Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 neeku kaavalsina details anni sri krishna commission report lo clear ga unnay , including all the stats and graphs ... adi chudu interest untey @3$% aa commission report ni tiraskarinchaaru kadha TG vaallu. how is it trustworthy?
Luppon_Gidigidi Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 aa commission report ni tiraskarinchaaru kadha TG vaallu. how is it trustworthy? nuvvu thiraskarinchaledu kada @3$%
donganaaK Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 aa commission report ni tiraskarinchaaru kadha TG vaallu. how is it trustworthy? that's only a part of that report , but ah survey antha it was pretty comprehensive ...
always_happy116 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 narsi uncle enti TG vallani vellagottesthavaaa :3D_Smiles_38: :3D_Smiles_38:
lazybugger Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 Ok, i wont go out of conversation, but elucidate more on the Text in BOLD upper caste agenda - improving irrigation (waste of water, because majority landowners are likely upper caste) tax subsidies to industries to attract them, when Hyd is naturally attractive even without them. again upper caste agenda about something on development. these are good to a certain extent, but celebrating them in a state where, as you say, almost half the population lives near Hyd is pushing the upper caste agenda without thought.
lazybugger Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 that's only a part of that report , but ah survey antha it was pretty comprehensive ... chooddaam.
athletics Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 okay. thanks for responding to atleast something close to what I asked about. so nee prakaram, majority pop lives around Hyd, and they don't face discrimination (atleast within the TG community), so nobody has bothered about caste. nuvvu cheppina AP/TG madigas are slightly unrelated to what I asked. better way to see if caste suppression exists in TG, is to see how much land ownership is spread out across all castes. The discrimination exits between the rich and the poor but not among the poor(anyways what would anyone gain by discriminating one another when they are fighting to make the ends meet)
lazybugger Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 narsi uncle enti TG vallani vellagottesthavaaa :3D_Smiles_38: :3D_Smiles_38: nenu AP vaallane emi ananu, aallu nannu entha thittina. such nice TG vaallani emantaanu ba? nenu just doubt adiga. stay on topic.
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