BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 what is this intimidation of the govt, and the justice system by promoting campaigns to kill someone in custody, when 99% of those who signed it wont even know the facts of the case beyond headlines? Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 why don't Indians come together for a productive political purpose? its always to murder this fellow, and that fellow, and to stop any benefit to others. lol indian society. Quote
Android_Halwa Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 such petitions, stronger laws will not help in any way... dharnalu cheyadam, stronger laws teesukaravadam, kotha kotha measures evi anni waste... only way suc things can be avoided is education. Only better EDUCATION can help avoid such things... 1 Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 so man, tell me. I didn't read the news. who is this guy? is he relative of the baby's parents, a stranger, a passerby? who? how come he got access to the baby? what are the local conditions that allowed this to happen. all these are being grappled with by the community concerned. if you can contribute to that discussion, its more helpful, than asking to kill someone. that discussion is being had right now by public prosecutors and the defense lawyer in their rooms. you are not really adding anything to that discussion, other than raising bp of people. Quote
meri_zindagi Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 42 minutes ago, BDurruti said: see.. there's difference between people on that particular location - the parents, relatives, acting out of righteous anger and lynching him, and the society prodding the collective to kill a particular person for a particular deed, that they are not directly affected by. if the people handed the culprit to the police, there ends the matter. if the people lynched him, ofcourse there's a case to defend those who lynched him. but ila recha gottadam valla enti use? society gets more and more self righteous and blood thirsty. ee social media daanikey panikochedhi. the problem in India is not water, but social apathy, which sometimes manifests into calls for murder on cases like this (and nirbhaya). Has the national outrage over nirbhaya struck terror into the heart of rapists everywhere in India? the only thing it did was, get BJP elected. whose MPs themselves, some of them are rapists. society baagu cheyyatam nee valla, oka manishi valla kaadhu. but nashanam cheyyochu oka manishi, by spreading this kind of trash. society works through consensus. vaadini arrest chesaru. the law will handle it. simple. that's the mark of a mature and decent society. and a mature and decent society will not have incidents like this. do you even know the whole story? asalu 9 months baby ni enduku chesadu, what are the motivations, ivanni telusukovadda? to understand the mindset of such people? just champesthey solve aypothada? Self-righteous ga eppudu undakodadu when someone takes their own life. If someone commits a suicide, it might be their own inability to handle difficulties in life. We can't accuse anyone responsible for such deaths without proper evidence/inspection. The worst mistake/irreparable mistake one can do in life is taking the life of innocent for their own pleasure. And hanging them is completely justified. There was an accident made by a drunkard woman in Bay area in which a school kid was killed. She was sentenced to death without investigation. In India justice is always delayed. Arrest chesthe saripodu mastaru. Mana country lo Koda ila judgements vasthe why do people protest in the first place. We can't change the society, but we can change laws which in turn changes the society. Another incident, where a psycho mother placed her kids in oven and turned it on. Valla nanna chesepatiki only one kid was survived, but lot of damage happened to all internal organs of kid. You can read it over internet. Aa mother mental condition is not like a normal Ani or for some reason, court waited until the survived kid becomes a major for her decision whether to hang her mom or not. After years the kid wanted her mom to be sentenced to death. My rational mind could only think of one judgement. Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, meri_zindagi said: The worst mistake/irreparable mistake one can do in life is taking the life of innocent for their own pleasure. And hanging them is completely justified. yes, it can be justified. killing another person is the highest form of breaking of social contract, and deserves the harshest punishment. what punishment it should be is a serious discussion to be had. US is not an example for india to follow. 'swift' decision making hasn't gotten crime down in the US. places in europe that have banned death penalty have significantly reduced these kind of incidents, compared to the US. how come, do you think? do you want to gradually reduce crime, or just fulfill your bloodlust for the moment in just this one case? would you be willing to negotiate for the next case, or will you want that person be instantly killed too? you know right, Norway didn't sentence that right wing terrorist Breivik for killing some 50 people in a party? how come Norway hasn't seen rise of such killings with people being more inspired to do such shootings? Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said: such petitions, stronger laws will not help in any way... dharnalu cheyadam, stronger laws teesukaravadam, kotha kotha measures evi anni waste... only way suc things can be avoided is education. Only better EDUCATION can help avoid such things... its a slow process, which most people don't have the patience for. they want to listen to 'gira gira' (lovely song), while they click on the petition, and consider their social responsibiility as done. some go a bit further, and intimidate people by claiming that death penalty will solve everything, when there's no evidence that it would. Quote
Android_Halwa Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, BDurruti said: its a slow process, which most people don't have the patience for. they want to listen to 'gira gira' (lovely song), while they click on the petition, and consider their social responsibiility as done. some go a bit further, and intimidate people by claiming that death penalty will solve everything, when there's no evidence that it would. good education and a generation, this is the amount of patience we need to see such things not happen again and again. until then, keep signing petitions and demand stronger laws. Quote
Amy99 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, BDurruti said: why don't Indians come together for a productive political purpose? its always to murder this fellow, and that fellow, and to stop any benefit to others. lol indian society. em cheppadalchukunnav?? vaadini champakunda jail lo kurchopetti, baaga mepi bail meedha release chesi...india lo inthe. emi jarigina bayata padachu ani prove cheyamantunnava?? Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 i write so much trash about uppercaste here. Have I ever called for a cow rakshak to be given death penalty? or the professors and students in HCU who killed Rohit Vemula, or Senthil before him? because killing them is not the solution. Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Amy99 said: em cheppadalchukunnav?? vaadini champakunda jail lo kurchopetti, baaga mepi bail meedha release chesi...india lo inthe. emi jarigina bayata padachu ani prove cheyamantunnava?? asalu evaru vaadu? neekanna case gurinchi telusa, leka just gaali lo maatladthunnava? who's he? why do you think he'll escape the law, cheppu? vaadu big minister koduka? or is he a minor like in that nirbhaya case? Quote
reality Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 Loose laws make people numb. Severe punishment is the ONLY way. Fear of punishment should always resonate in society. People should start doing direct protests to take action on such things, for that matter any anti-social activity. Education or preaching doesn’t teach any sense in Internet era, in which shameless things prevail. Quote
meri_zindagi Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, BDurruti said: asalu evaru vaadu? neekanna case gurinchi telusa, leka just gaali lo maatladthunnava? who's he? why do you think he'll escape the law, cheppu? vaadu big minister koduka? That's a valid point. Ayesha lanti cases ke Inka justification ledu. And no one can raise their voice even they want to. Veedu okadu dorikadu Mana societal responsibility prove chesukodanike. Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 decades of case material, social studies tho laws and judgements raastharu. ofcourse India lo kontha mandhi judges ishtamochina chethha raastharu anuko, like in babri case. case osthadi kadha court ki, aa judgement lo theda untey, then you can petition. asalu inka emi jaragaley, how can you conclude that he'll come out on bail? and what if he comes out on bail? all these can be debated. but you should know what the case is about. malli simple question. what are the details of this case, cheppandi. not just headlines. why didn't the father/mother bash that guy's head in? who handed him to the police? is he mentally retarded? don't you have any questions to ask before you sign a petition to murder someone? Quote
BDurruti Posted June 24, 2019 Report Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, reality said: Loose laws make people numb. Severe punishment is the ONLY way. Fear of punishment should always resonate in society. People should start doing direct protests to take action on such things, for that matter any anti-social activity. Education or preaching doesn’t teach any sense in Internet era, in which shameless things prevail. mobs are brainless. information has a way of morphing into gossip in a mob. that's why committees, and laws exist. I still don't see anyone actually knowing about the case, beyond the headlines. do you? Quote
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