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[Silverado]

Just now, TrollBait said:

Ayn Rand is full of bad ideas, and silly social commentary just like RGV.

and its bad that enough people in power took her seriously in the US. RGV is too shy to hog the spotlight for that long. so he's relatively harmless.

What like anti-family,free culture?? Or something else like capitalism without morals

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1 minute ago, Silverado said:

What like anti-family,free culture?? Or something else like capitalism without morals

no. she starts off with 'every man is an island'. and that exchanges with other men in the society should be on a mutual basis, and not through coercion.

so far so good. I agree with it.

then she tries to apply this to coin a new philosophy called 'objectivism', which she doesn't have the smarts to explain without sufficiently smoothing out the obvious inconsistencies. 

Objectivism naively states that truth is immutable and can't be polluted through opinions. There are several problems with this. for another thread someday. This is not considered as a school of philosophy by any philosophers by the way.

but I don't think any of her bhakts read as far enough into her philosophy. They mostly stop at her last 1400 page borefest novel 'atlas shrugged', where she creates a new world for the productive people in society and moves them all to that place.

and then the rest of the society will struggle without them, and plead them to come back. 

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she is for capitalism, but she doesn't understand how it works. 

your own Hindutva movement is full of Ayn Rand bhakts. I know because until 2009, I was Hindutva too. 

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15 minutes ago, Silverado said:

What like anti-family,free culture?? Or something else like capitalism without morals

she is for morals. and her morality is not the problem here.

the problem is, her lack of any clue about what she's talking.

 

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27 minutes ago, Silverado said:

What like anti-family,free culture?? Or something else like capitalism without morals

Ayn Rand is dangerous because she gave the right words to the dumbfcuks to justify their plunder of society.

earlier, these dumbfcuks used to rely on brute force, or through cunning to enact legislations..

but now, they have material that they can do propaganda with. written in simple english that even a teen can understand. They have managed to brainwash a huge army of people and Ayn Rand gave them the material to do so.

In short, they have managed to convince people (some of them) to vote against their own interests, by telling them that they are useless and lazy and slackers etc. Ayn Rand is the hero behind this awesome political development.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Silverado said:

What like anti-family,free culture?? Or something else like capitalism without morals

ofcourse, there are much more dangerous ideas than what Ayn Rand has propagated, but they remain inaccessible to common man's understanding. and have not yet been politically used to take power anywhere.

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25 minutes ago, Silverado said:

What like anti-family,free culture?? Or something else like capitalism without morals

go to any HIndutva offline meet of  hindutva supporters of professional class. tell me if 90% of them are not ayn rand fans.

[TrollBait]

Ayn Rand has cheapened public discourse.. so has RGV.

ofcourse it was much worse before these two were influential in public domain. so may be its natural for right wingers to scurry around to find some 3rd rate author to defend their bullshit, rather than having a public debate around material conditions.

 

[Silverado]

Thank you for typing patiently and this long

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7 minutes ago, Silverado said:

Thank you for typing patiently and this long

Ayn Rand is to the right, what Karl Marx is to the left.

but Marx was a genuine philosopher who clearly presented why capitalism is unsustainable. He was proved right by 1920s itself. Capitalism didnt work, and what we have now is not capitalism.

Ayn Rand is just a bitter b1tch with nothing interesting to say.  and to right wingers this is enough to scuttle any conversation.

because they don't have to present an alternative idea, just keep claiming that any idea besides theirs is unworkable.

 

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Dbians to @TrollBait Vorey neyabba aapara reii.

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okay.. haha.. may schopenhauer, adam smith etc are more influential on the right in policy circles.

but on rhetorical side, Ayn Rand provides the largest ammunition to them.

 

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1 minute ago, Scurvy said:

Dbians to @TrollBait Vorey neyabba aapara reii.

fcuk dbians. lol. 

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16 minutes ago, Silverado said:

Thank you for typing patiently and this long

simple bro. the left comes up with some original idea on how to organize and the right scurries around to find 3rd rate bullshit authors from whom they can quote to scuttle that.

from the 1960s, left has run out of ideas, so the right has stuck to the likes of Ayn Rand to counter the left.Karl marx is no longer that relevant.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Silverado said:

Thank you for typing patiently and this long

Hindutva itself is a reactionary movement by 3rd rate assholes kadha.. the history of savarkar is funny.

it was created as a reaction to changes in society towards more equality. even now Hindutva wins only to stop the progress India is making, and to make sure every hierarchy is maintained, and the lower castes know their place.

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No wonder Ayn Rand bhakts became Hindutva bhakts.sh1t attracts sh1t.