chanchala Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: matladindhi kathi mahesh kadha ,invite chesinolladhi ela tappu avutadhi? invite chesinollaki teliyala what is acceptable in their forum ani. kathhi elanti comments chestadu ani teliyakunda nay invite chesara? again, its a discussion for the management. police case antha big comedy. repu nuvvu naa tho unnappudu edho chethha vaagavu against a god ani nee meedha case vesinattu idhi kooda. with video proof. okay na, neeku? Quote
futureofandhra Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, chanchala said: invite chesinollaki teliyala what is acceptable in their forum ani. kathhi elanti comments chestadu ani teliyakunda nay invite chesara? again, its a discussion for the management. police case antha big comedy. repu nuvvu naa tho unnappudu edho chethha vaagavu against a god ani nee meedha case vesinattu idhi kooda. with video proof. okay na, neeku? how invitees know how he will talk on god education institution lo chesey comments ki private 1 to 1 talk same kaadhu ga Quote
chanchala Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, futureofandhra said: how invitees know how he will talk on god education institution lo chesey comments ki private 1 to 1 talk same kaadhu ga they should know. they know now. if they are offended, they shouldn't invite him again. They are free to stop him midway and escort him out if they were that offended. police case is lol. inthaki evaru file chesaru case... asalu em cheppadu kathhi gaadu .... ivi emi telikunda ney nenu intha vaaguthunna... because tat the fundamental level this sounds like a joke. intha varaku ee thread lo vaadem cheppado evadu post cheyyale... evado okadu edho corona annadu. oka context ledhu paadu ledhu... just maaku kopam ochhindi so jail lo thoyyaali ante etla? meeremanna pedda pudingila? Quote
Prasadgeek33 Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, chanchala said: Its good if Hinduism depends on state support. But it looks like the tables are turning in India with certain bhakti traditions (say Ram bhakti) within Hindus trying to control the state.Its a recipe for disaster, because there will be other groups within hinduism that will rise to challenge this. This is no more the 10th century. Most Indians who worship Ram also Worship Shiva or Durga. Only a few communities stick to one God. But there are no more defined Bhakti traditions that people are following. It is a more of personal preferences. 23 minutes ago, chanchala said: irrelevant to the discussion. Oh why would that be irrelevant? It was about State support. State has supported Christianity and Islam in India for years. For Ex: the state is even supporting random customs like Jerusalem yatra. Christians in US or Europe have no custom like Hajj where they travel to Jerusalem. But in AP, The tax payers are paying for these Yatras. AP State government takes money from TTD but Christian churches and Mosques are independent. Mosque wakf boards and Churches have lots of properties and wealth. Wakf boards hold thousands of crores worth of lands. Catholic church is the biggest private landowner in India (non-Agricultural). But they are independent. Secularism in India has meant pro-minority system 23 minutes ago, chanchala said: christianity no more controls the advanced economies. do you want India to be a hindu backwater, or an advanced state? Hinduism has never controlled any indian State or even older Kingdoms. Now what did India do specifically pro-Hindu that hurts you so much. 23 minutes ago, chanchala said: because Hindus were not in power for a real long time. things will change soon. earlier Hindus were atleast hiding behind secularism to do bullshit.. now that mask is off. Again you are repeating that Hindus do bullshit. Hinduism is a religion and Secularism is a State Principle. you are mixing both. So Hindus cant be in power? Only kids of Abraham/Ibrahim have that right? have they done no Bullshit. You are basically biased against Hindus, so please take that mask off. Abrahamic folks are not pious.Should we start talking about slavery, stake burning, dark ages, rice bag conversions, etc etc. 23 minutes ago, chanchala said: did I say you were squeamish or someone's squeamish. I just said that unlike liberals who talk peace, I don't believe in peace. even though in large parts I'm a liberal. Liberal? In what way you are liberal? You are more of a Rabid Christian fundamentalist in the mask of liberal as you are speaking against Hindus in India. So you are just a Christian Rightwinger rather than a Hindu Rightwinger. Quote
chanchala Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Prasadgeek33 said: This is no more the 10th century. Most Indians who worship Ram also Worship Shiva or Durga. Only a few communities stick to one God. But there are no more defined Bhakti traditions that people are following. It is a more of personal preferences. It is immaterial. hindus can divide on lignuistic lines too, if they want to oppose hegemony of a particular group. Like how do you respond to a tamil group that paints lord murugan as black, and worships ravan? it can happen under the right political climate. HIndutva has no answer to this, other than calling them ricebags. It works as long as the economy runs well.. but one day it won't. 12 minutes ago, Prasadgeek33 said: Oh why would that be irrelevant? It was about State support. State has supported Christianity and Islam in India for years. For Ex: the state is even supporting random customs like Jerusalem yatra. Christians in US or Europe have no custom like Hajj where they travel to Jerusalem. But in AP, The tax payers are paying for these Yatras. AP State government takes money from TTD but Christian churches and Mosques are independent. Mosque wakf boards and Churches have lots of properties and wealth. Wakf boards hold thousands of crores worth of lands. Catholic church is the biggest private landowner in India (non-Agricultural). But they are independent. Secularism in India has meant pro-minority system I said Hinduism should be made to dependent on the state, and not the other way around. this entire point is moot. 12 minutes ago, Prasadgeek33 said: Hinduism has never controlled any indian State or even older Kingdoms. Now what did India do specifically pro-Hindu that hurts you so much. sadhus winning elections and becoming popular leaders is a dangerous trend. 12 minutes ago, Prasadgeek33 said: Again you are repeating that Hindus do bullshit. Hinduism is a religion and Secularism is a State Principle. you are mixing both. So Hindus cant be in power? Only kids of Abraham/Ibrahim have that right? have they done no Bullshit. You are basically biased against Hindus, so please take that mask off. Abrahamic folks are not pious.Should we start talking about slavery, stake burning, dark ages, rice bag conversions, etc etc. Hinduism is whatever.. its trying to be a superstructure for political, religious, and spiritual life of ordinary Indians. this is a recipe for disaster. because Hindutva has no clarity on its ambitions, beyond childish dreams of becoming 'developed'. It is completely avoiding addressing contradictions within its structure. like the dalit's place in Hindutva. I know a lot of dalits are now hindutva supporters, but for how long before they demand equal seat at the table.. Not as dummy president, mind you. 12 minutes ago, Prasadgeek33 said: Liberal? In what way you are liberal? You are more of a Rabid Christian fundamentalist in the mask of liberal as you are speaking against Hindus in India. So you are just a Christian Rightwinger rather than a Hindu Rightwinger. lol. I'm a liberal. what made you think I'm a christian fundamentalist? lol. I'm a liberal because I'm against bigots. where did xian bigots come into this discussion? we are talking about India..and the ruling party in India has a PM who oversaw a pogrom. no liberal worth his salt will support that bigot. Quote
chanchala Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Prasadgeek33 said: You are basically biased against Hindus, so please take that mask off. Abrahamic folks are not pious.Should we start talking about slavery, stake burning, dark ages, rice bag conversions, etc etc. Church doesnt control the state dude... keep up. don't keep repeating the same sh1t. you have religious nutjobs in power in India. its not the same thing. Quote
chanchala Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Prasadgeek33 said: So Hindus cant be in power? Only kids of Abraham/Ibrahim have that right? have they done no Bullshit. yeah.. Hindus can be in power. but India cannot remain a country under taht singular power. It will break up. if you think Hindus in Tamilnadu/Karnataka will not push back on edicts from hindus in north India, you are living in la la land. there are also no set of rules that all Hindus agree on for governance. Its again drawn from the liberal tradition. Once that breaks down, India is a gone case. Quote
YeddiBK Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, chanchala said: closed meeting (including ee forum) lo dalit la meedha comments ni atrocity case kindha teeskovachcha bujji. edanna brain undaali oka paddathi undaali... lekuntey jokers aytharu... ayna baaga balisi kottukuntunnaru BJP ni chooskoni. ee daridram thappadhu anukunta India ki ee decade. Social media days lo closed meeting ledu open meeting ledu.. everything will reach everyone.. Quote
futureofandhra Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, chanchala said: yeah.. Hindus can be in power. but India cannot remain a country under taht singular power. It will break up. if you think Hindus in Tamilnadu/Karnataka will not push back on edicts from hindus in north India, you are living in la la land. there are also no set of rules that all Hindus agree on for governance. Its again drawn from the liberal tradition. Once that breaks down, India is a gone case. though i oppose u r other things i cannot disgree on this point Quote
YeddiBK Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, chanchala said: Church doesnt control the state dude... keep up. don't keep repeating the same sh1t. you have religious nutjobs in power in India. its not the same thing. Hi Trollbait Quote
YeddiBK Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, chanchala said: yeah.. Hindus can be in power. but India cannot remain a country under taht singular power. It will break up. if you think Hindus in Tamilnadu/Karnataka will not push back on edicts from hindus in north India, you are living in la la land. there are also no set of rules that all Hindus agree on for governance. Its again drawn from the liberal tradition. Once that breaks down, India is a gone case. maree antha dooram alochinchaku.. whatever happens India lo muslims unde theerutharu, leftist useless fellows undane untaru.. we just want nationalist party to rule the country till muslims in general becomes less extremists and people realize socialism is just a joke.. appatidaaka ee circus nadusthune untundi Quote
chanchala Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, YeddiBK said: maree antha dooram alochinchaku.. whatever happens India lo muslims unde theerutharu, leftist useless fellows undane untaru.. we just want nationalist party to rule the country till muslims in general becomes less extremists and people realize socialism is just a joke.. appatidaaka ee circus nadusthune untundi ofcourse Hindutva has no future as an alternative to liberalism. no religion (including islam/christianity) has managed to control huge populations under one rule. Hindutva has no idea what it is doing, other than blanket opposition to anything muslim and pandering to bullshit cultural grievances. its like a club for mentally retarded but socially functional. Quote
Prasadgeek33 Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, chanchala said: yeah.. Hindus can be in power. but India cannot remain a country under taht singular power. It will break up. if you think Hindus in Tamilnadu/Karnataka will not push back on edicts from hindus in north India, you are living in la la land. there are also no set of rules that all Hindus agree on for governance. Its again drawn from the liberal tradition. Once that breaks down, India is a gone case. Hindus are not one unitary group. Hindus of North india have not passed any edicts on South Indian Hindus. I am a south indian Hindu. Hinduism is not governing India, Indian constitution and government of India is governing India. So definition and composition of Hinduism is irrelevant. What is this Liberal traditions that you keep on speaking off. Was Indira gandhi a Liberal by your definition, She was a more socialist left winger as long as it dealt with economics but coming to religion she was a right winger. Quote
YeddiBK Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, chanchala said: ofcourse Hindutva has no future as an alternative to liberalism. no religion (including islam/christianity) has managed to control huge populations under one rule. Hindutva has no idea what it is doing, other than blanket opposition to anything muslim and pandering to bullshit cultural grievances. its like a club for mentally retarded but socially functional. I dont know about hindutva rulers but people who voted them exactly know what they are doing.. like I said in previous post we want the leftist and islamist craziness to be controlled.. the day that happens majority of people who are on BJP side now wont give a crap about the BJP.. Quote
chanchala Posted August 14, 2020 Report Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Prasadgeek33 said: Hindus are not one unitary group. Hindus of North india have not passed any edicts on South Indian Hindus. I am a south indian Hindu. Hinduism is not governing India, Indian constitution and government of India is governing India. So definition and composition of Hinduism is irrelevant. What is this Liberal traditions that you keep on speaking off. Was Indira gandhi a Liberal by your definition, She was a more socialist left winger as long as it dealt with economics but coming to religion she was a right winger. Hindus of north India have pushed NEEET on TamilNadu, disrupting its medical infrastructure. They have pushed GST and robbed states of their revenue and made them beggars to the center.. They are now pushing NEP ... They pushed all sorts of policies that have forced the state to move away from its welfare schemes, like dictating how much PDS should be allowed. Hinduism is not governing INdia yet.. yes... but guys like yogi adityanath getting wide popularity is a move in the direction of Hindu based governance. Indira gandhi is not a liberal. She imposed emergency for fucksake. Quote
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