Ryzen_renoir Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 Can a normal farmer go up against a coorporate house like Adani , Ambani and get justice in india ? Three supreme court judges have worked with RIL directly and many high court judges all over India are in one way or other have a financial relationship with RIL . How can a small farmer go up against these fellows ? Congress gurunchi separate thread vedhamu . Why is there no legal safeguards to small farmers in these laws ? Quote
vaakel_saab Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 BJP mottam nakinche daka podhu.. MSP ni chattam chesthe ayipothadi kadha. corporate farming vasthe,vadu cheppindhe pandinchali and use of more fertilizers. They will grow based on the world market, rice and wheat india la shortage vasthadi and prices perguthay. Quote
Sachin200 Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: Can a normal farmer go up against a coorporate house like Adani , Ambani and get justice in india ? Three supreme court judges have worked with RIL directly and many high court judges all over India are in one way or other have a financial relationship with RIL . How can a small farmer go up against these fellows ? Congress gurunchi separate thread vedhamu . Why is there no legal safeguards to small farmers in these laws ? Ee farm bill meedha mixed opinion undhi . Eppudu protest chestuna vallu punjab , haryana and why not MH, AP, TG,TN farmers protesting ? Quote
narsy Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, vaakel_saab said: BJP mottam nakinche daka podhu.. MSP ni chattam chesthe ayipothadi kadha. corporate farming vasthe,vadu cheppindhe pandinchali and use of more fertilizers. They will grow based on the world market, rice and wheat india la shortage vasthadi and prices perguthay. shortage em raadhu le. basically it'll remain the same whether under corporate or govt subsidized procurement, as far as rates are concerned. India lo agri markets are way too inefficient boss. corporates ochhi peekedhi unte, eppudo jarigedhi. They don't need this bill to enter agri markets. This bill helps creation of pan india exchanges. nothing more. the actual guys who trade in these exchanges have been doing it in 100s of smaller private exchanges already. the bill will help consolidation of one of the players in those 100s of exchanges. antha kante em ledhu. and no, it won't magically increase prices of our purchase. the issue is not market prices, but farmer incomes. Its not the people who are on the streets, anticipating high prices. its the farmers. 2 Quote
RajNeethi Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sachin200 said: Ee farm bill meedha mixed opinion undhi . Eppudu protest chestuna vallu punjab , haryana and why not MH, AP, TG,TN farmers protesting ? lack of awareness. farmers don’t use internet or any electronic media to analyze and grasp the information. They are reactive sufferers. Quote
NiranjanGaaru Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 Niku enduku answer ivali Quote
Jambhalheart Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 I have agriculture land in Vizianagaram district, AP. maa chinnanna land kooda maa land pakkaney so chinnanna kooda farming chesthaaru, off course memu kouvalaki esthaam mostly, when we have time we normally do it. So, I will answer these questions as a farmer or farmer's son. Can a normal farmer go up against a coorporate house like Adani , Ambani and get justice in india ? Ans : No ! But try to understand the current situation by stepping into the shoes of a farmer. for ex: naaku farming nunchi 1 Ton onions or tomatoes yield vachindhi anukundhaam. eppudu ee 1 ton onions ki naa own transport tho APMC approved market (mandi) ki thesukuvellali , akkada middlemen antha kummakku ayyi 'arey rs 5/kilo ayithey kontaam ' antaaru, appudu nenu 'babu city market lo onions Rs 50 ammuthunnaru kadha' antaanu, vallu 'gaadhi antha maaku thelvadhu memu only Rs 5 ki kontam, istam ayithey koni kastam ayithey fruck off' antaaru eppudu nenu em cheyaali farm land nunchi ee APMC market ki thechina ee 1 ton onion load ni vaadiki ammesi vellipovaali (no other option) so if I have brains I have sign the contract with any company (big or small) and will have to follow the rules 'yes' i can't legally with such MNCs but what to do the existing mandis r not giving me good rate so I will try this option. So, IMO, if farmer has brain enough he will negotiate well in agreement with MNC if not he will get cheated so naa opinion prakaram ee APMC (mandis) ekkuvaga punjab & haryana loney vunnayi, Vizag lanti cities loney ee APMC (mandi) markets levu so memu ee farm laws vunna okatey lekhapoyina okatey konni sarlu, ee middlemen direct gaa nee farm daggaraki vachi konesthaaru farmer ki estam vuntey akkada ammesthaaru So bottom line is ee 3 farm laws vunna okatey lekhapoyina okatey bcoz no one follows these APMC mandi system in states other than punjab/haryana Quote
narsy Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sachin200 said: Ee farm bill meedha mixed opinion undhi . Eppudu protest chestuna vallu punjab , haryana and why not MH, AP, TG,TN farmers protesting ? this bill is like the GST of farm procurement, in that it helps those who want to make India one big market for farm produce. nothing more. every farmer will protest once they understand what is in the bill. did you forget TamilNadu farmers doing protest with langoti in delhi? that was even before this bill was passed. Quote
NiranjanGaaru Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 Dedicated to all pinkies Quote
narsy Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jambhalheart said: So bottom line is ee 3 farm laws vunna okatey lekhapoyina okatey bcoz no one follows these APMC mandi system in states other than punjab/haryana there's a diff. right now you have different regional markets. This bill will help bigwigs consolidate it all into one market. Quote
Jambhalheart Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, narsy said: there's a diff. right now you have different regional markets. This bill will help bigwigs consolidate it all into one market. may be in few cases but I don't think so but India mothaam lo ee bigwigs okatey rate ni fix cheyaleru all seasons lo for ex: onions ground nunchi vasthaayi kabbati rainy season lo wet soil lo grow cheyalem so punjab lo full rains vuntey akkada onions kilo Rs 90 vuntey , tamil nadu lo asalu rains ee levu anukundham so onions scarcity ledu appudu ee MNCs whole India ki onion rate Rs 90 ani ammaleru coz tamilnadu lo onions cheap ga dorukuthunnayi kabbati even local markets lo so ee rates anevi verey conditions valla vary avthunnayi Quote
RajNeethi Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 In a nutshell, farmland will be grabbed by corporates by offering high prices... Traditional farming will die... Amaravathi farmers laga book avutharu... farmers.. Quote
narsy Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jambhalheart said: may be in few cases but I don't think so but India mothaam lo ee bigwigs okatey rate ni fix cheyaleru all seasons lo for ex: onions ground nunchi vasthaayi kabbati rainy season lo wet soil lo grow cheyalem so punjab lo full rains vuntey akkada onions kilo Rs 90 vuntey , tamil nadu lo asalu rains ee levu anukundham so onions scarcity ledu appudu ee MNCs whole India ki onion rate Rs 90 ani ammaleru coz tamilnadu lo onions cheap ga dorukuthunnayi kabbati even local markets lo so ee rates anevi verey conditions valla vary avthunnayi cereals lo fix cheyyachu. veggie markets are mostly local and about. adhem cheyyaleru. cereals lo aadukovachu. future contracts on rice/wheat esthey, you can say it may improve productivity technically. but in reality, unless the farmer has the knowhow on how to increase productivity, he'll be pitted against other farmers in a race to bottom. the bill addresses none of it. It didn't even have a discussion on parliament. one fine day it was breaking news on twitter. my first reaction is excitement. but I'm not a farmer. 1 Quote
Jambhalheart Posted December 15, 2020 Report Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, narsy said: cereals lo fix cheyyachu. veggie markets are mostly local and about. adhem cheyyaleru. cereals lo aadukovachu. future contracts on rice/wheat esthey, you can say it may improve productivity technically. but in reality, unless the farmer has the knowhow on how to increase productivity, he'll be pitted against other farmers in a race to bottom. the bill addresses none of it. It didn't even have a discussion on parliament. one fine day I read on twitter about it. my first reaction is excitement. but I'm not a farmer. avunu ee bills vunna okatey lekhapoyina okatey, andukey except punjab or haryana no other state farmer is making much noise. farmers ki productivity ela penchaali ani knowledge sharing or any new equipment tho training lantivi evvali elantivi vadhilesi evo laws chesaam antey workout avvadhu secondly, rice or wheat ki maa side november lo paddy yield vasthey chala mandhi farmers ee time lo ammaru rate sarigga raadhu ani paddy (dhannyam) ni store chesi vunchuthaaru oka 6 months or 1 year , rainy season lo or off season lo paddy ni rice mill ki esthaaru manchi rate vasthundhi ani 1 Quote
Ryzen_renoir Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, RajNeethi said: In a nutshell, farmland will be grabbed by corporates by offering high prices... Traditional farming will die... Amaravathi farmers laga book avutharu... farmers.. No one is going to take farmland , asalu topic ki nee statement ki ardham ledhu 1 Quote
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