How Britain stole $45 trillion from India and lied about it

[Mirage]

4 minutes ago, bhaigan said:

nuvvu chese aropanala ki oka proof undadu

poni britain steal chesindi WW2 lo pogotukunnadu kada

Nenem aropana chesina? Ante aa research paper publish chesina aayina some conspiracy theory publish chesindu antav. Anthena? 

[argadorn]

ah padmavath movie chustahy telusthadhi ... Ranveer muslim king gadu food lekunda emi cheyaleni paristhithi  lo shahid king gadu chmapakunda yudda dharmam vattakayi ani night cheyadhu ani war cheyaledhu ... vadu morning vachi backstab chesi champuthadu .... dantlo what glory india has ... pichi chestalu tappa ... britsih appudu kuda night yudham cheyaledhu ... enka chala unayi ... akbar gadu whole karnataka motham naramedham cheshadu still we are portraying him as great king of india ... that is india for you guys ... never ever proud of india .... we can be proud of ambani tata and ceos .... they made world know that indians are not slaves ...

[yskokila]

4 hours ago, Mirage said:

//Britain didn’t develop India. Quite the contrary – as Patnaik’s work makes clear – India developed Britain.//

This is utter tosh. No country can develop or destroy others.

The History was about Powerful Vs Powerless, Rich Vs Poor, Abled Vs Weak

Do you think everyone was living a Royal life in Imperial England between 1600 and 1947? The poor and the middle class people of Britain were subjected to al sorts of hardships just like their counter parts across the British Empire.

Its only the Rich, the Elite, the Nobles of England who reserved all the wealth for them. And shared it with their counter parts in India (Of course those who yielded to the Power of British Army).

 

[Mirage]

5 minutes ago, yskokila said:

Thats all bullocks. I have a different way of looking at the History. 

For instance, when Sir Arthur Cotton was refused funding by Queen Victoria Administration, he had to convince the British Govt and really struggled hard to accumulate the money needed. That was in 1840s unlike Baabooru's Vision in 2001. That was for construction of India's first Anacut on Godavari River.

Do you want to know what happened next? The Upper Castes of Godavari Delta refused to join hands with Dalits in doing the construction work. You heard it Right and Correct. A great Engineer like Cotton would never lie. The great Engineer had to divide the work in two shifts. First shift starting in the morning for Upper Castes. Then the next shift for Dalits and untouchables. Then the equipment were to be sanitized the whole evening and so on.

In short, the amount that was looted by Upper castes of India (who form a mx. of 10%) from the lower castes was much higher than what British has looted from the whole India.

To counter this we also have the Krishna sagar dam for instance where the ruler cared for his subjects. 

[yskokila]

2 minutes ago, Mirage said:

To counter this we also have the Krishna sagar dam for instance where the ruler cared for his subjects. 

Looking at the benefits reaped by Godavari Delta farmers, others followed. Of course with British Technology that time

[argadorn]

2 minutes ago, Mirage said:

Ji huzoor slavery ki alavaatu padaaru anedi nijamey. Kotladsina chota peace and non-violence ante janaalu spineless ae avthaaru ga. 

yup 1930s loney these big freedom struggle people know india will get indepedence so vallaki kavalsina position vahcakey india ki independence epincharu .... ah articles and books chadhuvuthay all bad manaki badha ga untahdi vayya ... gandhi thatah to show his strong mind and willness kosam ..he used to sleep naked with women ... this is written by ashramam worker .. no one will say this...we have bad histroy entha thakuva cheppukuntay antha manchidhi .... britsihers all freedom struggle leaders ni grip lo pettukunaru ...and they decided to give freedom to india after they are comfortable in giving teh freedom ... real people got frustrated but leaders always enjoyed their life... 

[Mirage]

1 minute ago, yskokila said:

Looking at the benefits reaped by Godavari Delta farmers, others followed. Of course with British Technology that time

Yeah, but about the upper class being completely against the lower class and Indian upper classes looted more than British. Sure, there are examples on both sides. How many such examples of godavari aycut do we have to generalize about Indian elite looted more than the British? 

[yskokila]

42 minutes ago, Mirage said:

I don’t disagree with you about the course and nature of Indian Independence struggle after WW1 and what transpired later. I admire the efforts of the revolutionaries - extremists movement 1905-1917. If only we got the Independence around that time things would perhaps have been different.  

Thats what my point toooo always. There were innumerable middle and rich class people who sacrificed their wealth, families, luxuries and whatever they have to fight against the mighty British Empire. And only a handful like Nehru and Gandhi families tole all the limelight.

Thats really the saddest part of Indian Independence Movement. Britain was done and dusted by the end of WW-1.

Britain and France both were begging Hitler not to start war through out 1933-1939. Even they agreed to return the reparation money that Germany was made to pay to Britain and France after WW-1 at Treaty of Versailles.

An united force at around 1916 would have done a great favour to India. To reassert their lost Authority, British Govt sponsored Jalianwala Bagh and made Gandhi the Prime face of the Indian struggle for Independence who is actually a weak candidate to run such a mamooth movement.

[Mirage]

1 minute ago, yskokila said:

Thats what my point toooo always. There were innumerable middle and rich class people who sacrificed their wealth, families, luxuries and whatever they have to fight against the mighty British Empire. And only a handful like Nehru and Gandhi families tole all the limelight.

Thats really the saddest part of Indian Independence Movement. Britain was done and dusted by the end of WW-1.

Britain and France both were begging Hitler not to start war through out 1933-1939. Even they agreed to return the reparation money that Germany was made to pay to Britain and France after WW-1 at Treaty of Versailles.

An united force at around 1916 would have done a great favour to India. To reassert their lost Authority, British Govt sponsored Jalianwala Bagh and made Gandhi the Prime face of the Indian struggle for Independence who is actually a weak candidate to run such a mamooth movement.

Yup 

[yskokila]

2 minutes ago, Mirage said:

Yeah, but about the upper class being completely against the lower class and Indian upper classes looted more than British. Sure, there are examples on both sides. How many such examples of godavari aycut do we have to generalize about Indian elite looted more than the British? 

No, you completely lost my point. By 1947, by  Dr.B R Ambedkar's account, which is 100% true, Dalits were not allowed to wear chappals while crossing Brahmin and other upper caste streets. This was continued till 1970's as well.

Separate Wells, separate areas to live, separate places of Worship.....where do you think they came from?

They were all existing since centuries and the upper caste historians made good attempt to divert this blame to Mughals and Britishers and wash off their hands.

To avoid this untouchability, British Govt promoted 'Conversions' and Swami Vivekananda too helped to prosper this Movement across India.

Pakistan was a different story though, by the end of Mughal Empire, it was converted to 90% Islam and gone deep into a point of no return.

[yskokila]

9 minutes ago, argadorn said:

yup 1930s loney these big freedom struggle people know india will get indepedence so vallaki kavalsina position vahcakey india ki independence epincharu .... ah articles and books chadhuvuthay all bad manaki badha ga untahdi vayya ... gandhi thatah to show his strong mind and willness kosam ..he used to sleep naked with women ... this is written by ashramam worker .. no one will say this...we have bad histroy entha thakuva cheppukuntay antha manchidhi .... britsihers all freedom struggle leaders ni grip lo pettukunaru ...and they decided to give freedom to india after they are comfortable in giving teh freedom ... real people got frustrated but leaders always enjoyed their life... 

Hahahahha...thats true India....

[yskokila]

12 minutes ago, argadorn said:

yup 1930s loney these big freedom struggle people know india will get indepedence so vallaki kavalsina position vahcakey india ki independence epincharu .... ah articles and books chadhuvuthay all bad manaki badha ga untahdi vayya ... gandhi thatah to show his strong mind and willness kosam ..he used to sleep naked with women ... this is written by ashramam worker .. no one will say this...we have bad histroy entha thakuva cheppukuntay antha manchidhi .... britsihers all freedom struggle leaders ni grip lo pettukunaru ...and they decided to give freedom to india after they are comfortable in giving teh freedom ... real people got frustrated but leaders always enjoyed their life... 

No need of Ashram worker's evidence, Gandhi himself admitted it. He was interviewed by a British journalist and Gandhi agreed that he indeed does that. Gandhi also mentioned this in his Auto Biography.

N.B:- On a side note, it was not too shocking at that time when the position of women in the Society was too worst.

[Somedude]

10 minutes ago, yskokila said:

No need of Ashram worker's evidence, Gandhi himself admitted it. He was interviewed by a British journalist and Gandhi agreed that he indeed does that. Gandhi also mentioned this in his Auto Biography.

N.B:- On a side note, it was not too shocking at that time when the position of women in the Society was too worst.

Thats to approve that he has achived bramhacharyam.

[galiraju]

And the Shah of Iran stole more than the English, probably.  

[yskokila]

21 minutes ago, argadorn said:

yup 1930s loney these big freedom struggle people know india will get indepedence so vallaki kavalsina position vahcakey india ki independence epincharu .... ah articles and books chadhuvuthay all bad manaki badha ga untahdi vayya ... gandhi thatah to show his strong mind and willness kosam ..he used to sleep naked with women ... this is written by ashramam worker .. no one will say this...we have bad histroy entha thakuva cheppukuntay antha manchidhi .... britsihers all freedom struggle leaders ni grip lo pettukunaru ...and they decided to give freedom to india after they are comfortable in giving teh freedom ... real people got frustrated but leaders always enjoyed their life... 

Looking at the way todays politicians and general powerful people behave, I think it was not very difficult for the British to do that.

On one hand Khilafat Movement was raging like fire. Moplah Genocide like things. Regular genocides of Hindus in Muslim dominated areas of current days B'desh and Pakistan. The Hindu leaders themselves split between them via languages/castes/regions....

British India was aptly named.