Oxygen War Rooms in Kerala 👏

[Birsa]

5 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Okko state okko la covid ni handle chesthunnapudu control evari chethullo unnattu? Ippudu center ni blame chesi and if states are let off Em vasthadhi? Real problem ni address cheyanatle kadha. Barking up the wrong tree and it will keep coming back to bite again.

Totally agree

all im seeing now is instead of going to the root cause most citizens are playing in to the political narratives. That won’t resolve the current crisis or protect from future happenings, wish and pray that there won’t be another wave

[kittaya]

6 hours ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

Chennai/Nellore lo 2015 floods vachayi , 3 days photo OP sessions tharuvatha mayam with absolutely no extra work done. Not a single road fixed , no encraochment removed even after being in power for four years , etc.

even AP had 82 official deaths which is almost double that of hudhud 

After a year , you can see the difference in work between practical (tamil nadu) and feku administration.

Media mundhu hadavidi thappa stuff ledhu , asalu veedu disaster management anteney maree comedy

Haha ok kaka... 

[DummyVariable]

15 minutes ago, kalaa_pipaasi said:

Kerala ippatikina kallu therichi war rooms pettukuni tracking the health stats and trying to save the lives of its people.other states kaneesam adi kooda cheyadam ledu.my appreciation is for that.

if your intention is Center help cheyakundane kerala did this all on its own ante war room setup cheskodaniki it doesn’t need centers help.but for oxygen supplies lanti vatiki help theeskundhemo.Center so far did a pathetic job.Everyone knew that.Again many states like Gujarat Delhi also did a pathetic job and trying to rub it on Center.

I appreciate Kerala for doing it this way. They have also not lied about their numbers. Other states have played the severity of the virus down and have blatantly lied about their numbers. Oxygen and medications can be allocated/stored depending on the demand projections at best. Now if a state has lied about its numbers, how can we know the true demand?   

[kalaa_pipaasi]

Just now, Birsa said:

Oxygen supplies ki kuda centre avasaram ledu unless state lo oxygen plants lekunda undinattu situation lo. Kerala setup chesukundi after the first wave and able to take advantage of that. 

centre a aspects lo failure? trying to get your perspective on the things

Center failed to stop certain things in my opinion.

kumbmela happening in Uttarakhand.u might say that’s a states decision.. but covid lanti times lo center has the authority to cancel that.lockdown mee istam ani Center states ki direct chesinapudu, it has also the power to control them.people after attending kumb went across India to several states and became super spreaders.

holding elections and rallies.it’s election commissions decision antaru.Center knows what’s happening in the country.here state govts also deserve the blame.evariki varu elections pettukuni rallies cheskoni covid perigindhi ante?either if Center or state govt court ki velli EC orders ni challenge chesunte elections aagevemo.

 

[Birsa]

8 minutes ago, dewarist said:

Agree on the number fudging part.

But the one man who is seen as a grand example was himself saying that we overcame the covid fight and we have shown the world on how to deal with this. Another said we are in the end game. Were these statements too based on the data? A leader who himself flouted covid norms at public gatherings and expecting others to follow the norms.

Im afraid we are not looking at the real problem. The trend im currently seeing is this: we do not want the presidential style of functioning and yet see one person as the centre of everything. Why did the chief ministers not raise concern if the PM is making unfounded claims? remember, kcr, mamata, akhilesh, tejaswi yadav, nitish, yogi, and many other prominent state leaders participated in the rallies or political sabhas

[dewarist]

Looks like you are only wanting to listen that you want to listen

[Birsa]

4 minutes ago, kalaa_pipaasi said:

Center failed to stop certain things in my opinion.

kumbmela happening in Uttarakhand.u might say that’s a states decision.. but covid lanti times lo center has the authority to cancel that.lockdown mee istam ani Center states ki direct chesinapudu, it has also the power to control them.people after attending kumb went across India to several states and became super spreaders.

holding elections and rallies.it’s election commissions decision antaru.Center knows what’s happening in the country.here state govts also deserve the blame.evariki varu elections pettukuni rallies cheskoni covid perigindhi ante?either if Center or state govt court ki velli EC orders ni challenge chesunte elections aagevemo.

 

Yes, all election rallies, kumbhmela, and any mass gatherings for that matter should have been avoided and a collective responsibility was lacking in avoiding the spread

[Birsa]

4 minutes ago, dewarist said:

Looks like you are only wanting to listen that you want to listen

Is that to me? How explain 

[dewarist]

Just now, Birsa said:

Im afraid we are not looking at the real problem. The trend im currently seeing is this: we do not want the presidential style of functioning and yet see one person as the centre of everything. Why did the chief ministers not raise concern if the PM is making unfounded claims? remember, kcr, mamata, akhilesh, tejaswi yadav, nitish, yogi, and many other prominent state leaders participated in the rallies or political sabhas

We honestly don't know the reports that the central govt received from respective state departments. Apart from the fudged numbers nothing is available in the public domain. And keeping in mind on how the central govt has been adamant with their policy making recently, I would not be surprised if they turned a blind eye to some states reporting a different narrative that center didn't like. I don't think any leader is wanting a head on collision with the prime minister and his party given his far reaches.

Let the centre publish information on how things moved along in the last three months leading up to the wave. We will have a better picture then.

[kalaa_pipaasi]

2 minutes ago, Birsa said:

Yes, all election rallies, kumbhmela, and any mass gatherings for that matter should have been avoided and a collective responsibility was lacking in avoiding the spread

Not only that, Center does have intelligence reports with it on what’s happening across India.vatini asalu evarina pattinchukunnaro ledho 

[dewarist]

If the central govt wants to come out clean, the only way can be showing the data on what was done by them and what did the states report apart from infection numbers.

[Birsa]

Just now, dewarist said:

We honestly don't know the reports that the central govt received from respective state departments. Apart from the fudged numbers nothing is available in the public domain. And keeping in mind on how the central govt has been adamant with their policy making recently, I would not be surprised if they turned a blind eye to some states reporting a different narrative that center didn't like. I don't think any leader is wanting a head on collision with the prime minister and his party given his far reaches.

Let the centre publish information on how things moved along in the last three months leading up to the wave. We will have a better picture then.

Even if the Centre says something or brings out a policy the state government is in no compulsion to yield in terms of health policies. Ayushman bharath example in Telangana. Mamata, Kejriwal, KCR, Pinarayi, Amarinder all have been critical of Modi at various times. some of the policy decisions have been backtracked. 
why should we assume that they are only afraid when it comes to covid? 
 

 

[dewarist]

Just now, Birsa said:

Even if the Centre says something or brings out a policy the state government is in no compulsion to yield in terms of health policies. Ayushman bharath example in Telangana. Mamata, Kejriwal, KCR, Pinarayi, Amarinder all have been critical of Modi at various times. some of the policy decisions have been backtracked. 
why should we assume that they are only afraid when it comes to covid? 
 

 

That is why i said we don't know. Let the central govt publish the data to come clean from their side.

[DummyVariable]

23 minutes ago, kalaa_pipaasi said:

Center failed to stop certain things in my opinion.

kumbmela happening in Uttarakhand.u might say that’s a states decision.. but covid lanti times lo center has the authority to cancel that.lockdown mee istam ani Center states ki direct chesinapudu, it has also the power to control them.people after attending kumb went across India to several states and became super spreaders.

holding elections and rallies.it’s election commissions decision antaru.Center knows what’s happening in the country.here state govts also deserve the blame.evariki varu elections pettukuni rallies cheskoni covid perigindhi ante?either if Center or state govt court ki velli EC orders ni challenge chesunte elections aagevemo.

 

See center can only take a decision based on the data they receive. Kumbmela mundhe everything was open in India. Appudu cases peruguthunna everything was fine ani states ye cheppinaru. Ante alantappudu “center knows everything that is happening in the country” ki meaning enti? If someone has lied to me, I cannot be expected to know the truth. You are as good as your data.

[Birsa]

Just now, dewarist said:

That is why i said we don't know. Let the central govt publish the data to come clean from their side.

So until then all the guns are to be pointed at one person and union since we don’t know. At the same time exonerate the state chief ministers who hold the actual constitutional authority? Is that the conclusion?