Dora says he will use 50% of Krishna water in a provacative neeti donga statement

[DummyVariable]

1 minute ago, Pavanonline said:

lol, of all the arguments I heard this is real comedy. Almost all people in TG wanted separate state irrespective of caste. Number one reason is water. 

Reason told back then was jobs btw. Reasons can be manufactured and put into the minds of the people anyway. Historically rich castes were the main drivers behind the movement. Remember they were super rich under the Nizams too. With the jagirdari system and the patel patwari system gone, they were losing power and money real fast. They had to protect what they ruled. 

[Ryzen_renoir]

4 hours ago, pahelwan said:

Allocations should be based on the river catchment where TS has upper hand. 50-50 is ideal

If that's the case then krishna allocations should be

30% maharastra

60% Karnataka

5% for both AP and TS  

[Ryzen_renoir]

1 hour ago, DummyVariable said:

Fair em ledhu akkada they are already building them of Krishna. Paisal lekapothe no water anthe. Already seema lo vachchedi 1 hour per week water and 3-4 hrs power cut daily. The only option will be to link Polavaram with Krishna and from Krishna to seema districts. Immediate ga ayithe RLIP to give temporary relief anthe.

Nah diversion of Godavari to rayalaseema is not cost worthy.

State is better off investing that amount in education / other infrastructure . 

 

[Pavanonline]

3 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Reason told back then was jobs btw. Reasons can be manufactured and put into the minds of the people anyway. Historically rich castes were the main drivers behind the movement. Remember they were super rich under the Nizams too. With the jagirdari system and the patel patwari system gone, they were losing power and money real fast. They had to protect what they ruled. 

I said number one reason not only reason. And water issue is not "manufactured", water flows all though TG but never was allowed to use. TG movement has been there before the factors you said are reasons, just because you are not aware doesn't mean movement is not there.

 Comments like yours allowed for the movement to foster, not taking problems of a region seriously and pushing it on some secret society. Power has always been with higher castes throughout the history in every state, so what you are talking doesn't make any sense why it happened in TG? Same castes exist in AP as well, so how you came to that conclusion? Also the most important factor for creation of state was death of YSR invalidating your thesis. It always had grassroot support which is why it survived lot of years, of course politicians not taking issues seriously only made it bigger. 

It's a matter of time before AP is further divided into Rayalaseema and Seemandhra

[hyperbole]

Jagan has done Cardinal mistake with RayalaSeema Lift Irrigation Project. 
It is like applying the salt on the wounds of Telangana People and the State:  
First why he did this in my view :
He wanted means to divert and secure more water to his native Rayalaseema which is fine but he chose to do at a cost which would burn all the bridges with neighboring state governments.

Srisailam is a Joint Project and AP is in breach of KRMB and CWC orders to install telemetry for Real time water discharge measurements from Potireddipadu and other Points
 

Entire Krishna River Water diversion scheme to Penna Basin has been cleverly managed in disguise of giving drinking water to chennai to get Krishna Tribunal clearances, while more than 90% of what is actually built is for Penna Basin Irrigation and drinking purposes all the utilization on record for Penna Basin is from the surplus river water while in reality Telangana state is yet to utilize its firm share and the diversion even now is actually from normal assured water (ie denial to Telangana for decades) reason why state happened

 

AP chose to Backstab and act Smart by Rejecting joint Godavari to Krishna diversion instead Created its own alternate of

1. enhance Godavari to Krishna diversion of Polavaram (TS would have no issue)
2. enhance Krishna to Penna diversion thru RLIP + Others
 

What AP has chosen to do RLIP + others is outright Backstabbing and its Breaching the Trust and Goodwill gesture by TS at many levels 
Govts will come and go, this Step by AP CM is very unbecoming and shows his immaturity and failure to reconcile to the fact Telangana is a state

AP has to STOP being "Too Clever By Half" and has to Reverse all its Backstabbing acts come clean with 100% telemetry monitoring by KRMB as first starting point 
else TS will launch counter measures - rightfully so
 

Nagarjuna Sagar Right Canal farmers and people under the ayacut and lifts on Right canal will be worst hit with the Too Clever By Half unilateral projects on Srisailam, RDS and others during deficit seasons ..
Within AP water fights are certain ..  
He should realize 🤔

 

 

 

[Telugodura456]

58 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

I am not a fan of irrigation projects. Andhra already produces excess grains. Why does it need more land under cultivation? Drinking water and industrial usage ki needed and nothing more. Irrigation projects put millions of people in poverty. Farm laborer paniki easy money, but there isn’t much growth there. Every few years there will be a crisis and there will be no water for some reason or the other. These people don’t have anyother skill to survive and end up being poor. May be it is intentional by the people in power.

TG also produces excess grains. In fact andhra pradesh already converted TG in to a food surplus area. And TG also has urban jobs due to Hyd. This makes kaleswaram and these lolli even more ridiculous for TG. what will happen wit all those expensive irrigation water ? it will be exported to other states through food grains. basically it is subsiding cost of food for kannada, tamils and hindi fellows at cost of TG budget and TG forests and TG people getting displaced.

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, hyperbole said:

Jagan has done Cardinal mistake with RayalaSeema Lift Irrigation Project. 
It is like applying the salt on the wounds of Telangana People and the State:  
First why he did this in my view :
He wanted means to divert and secure more water to his native Rayalaseema.

Where he has Erred and committed Cardinal Mistake(s)

Srisailam is a Joint Project and AP is in breach of KRMB and CWC orders to install telemetry for Real time water discharge measurements from Potireddipadu and other Points
 

Entire Krishna River Water diversion scheme to Penna Basin has been cleverly managed in disguise of giving drinking water to chennai to get Krishna Tribunal clearances, while more than 90% of what is actually built is for Penna Basin Irrigation and drinking purposes all the utilization on record for Penna Basin is from the surplus river water while in reality Telangana state is yet to utilize its firm share and the diversion even now is actually from normal assured water (ie denial to Telangana for decades) reason why state happened

Telangana is not Only an equal state and joint owner of Srisailam, it showed the important attitude required between river riparian states to reach agreement on large projects before starting as it did with kaleshawaram by signing agreement with Maharashtra first

Telangana realizing much like Telangana Parched regin farmers water needs parts of rayalaseema farmers too have similar situation and since there is shortage in Krishna to serve both, it extended olive branch to solve both by Supplimenting Godavari Waters into Srisailam so that both Telangana and AP farmers water requirements could be fully secured.

 

Yes AP chose to Backstab and act Smart by Rejecting joint Godavari to Krishna diversion instead Created its own alternate of
1. enhance Godavari to Krishna diversion of Polavaram (TS would have no issue)
2. enhance Krishna to Penna diversion thru RLIP + Others
 

What AP has chosen to do RLIP + others is outright Backstabbing and its Breaching the Trust and Goodwill gesture by TS at many levels 
Govts will come and go, this Step by AP CM is very unbecoming and shows his immaturity and failure to reconcile to the fact Telangana is a state

AP has to STOP being "Too Clever By Half" and has to Reverse all its Backstabbing acts come clean with 100% telemetry monitoring by KRMB as first starting point 
else TS will launch counter measures - rightfully so
 

Nagarjuna Sagar Right Canal farmers and people under the ayacut and lifts on Right canal will be worst hit with the Too Clever By Half AP CM unilateral projects on Srisailam, RDS and others during deficit seasons ..
Within AP water fights are certain ..  
He should realize 🤔

 

 

 

Nonsense - in that case why is Dora saying he will take more share of Krishna water than in the agreement. He would have complained that he is not getting the agreement share.

And where did you copy paste this from ?

[Telugodura456]

7 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

I said number one reason not only reason. And water issue is not "manufactured", water flows all though TG but never was allowed to use. TG movement has been there before the factors you said are reasons, just because you are not aware doesn't mean movement is not there.

 Comments like yours allowed for the movement to foster, not taking problems of a region seriously and pushing it on some secret society. Power has always been with higher castes throughout the history in every state, so what you are talking doesn't make any sense why it happened in TG? Same castes exist in AP as well, so how you came to that conclusion? Also the most important factor for creation of state was death of YSR invalidating your thesis. It always had grassroot support which is why it survived lot of years, of course politicians not taking issues seriously only made it bigger. 

It's a matter of time before AP is further divided into Rayalaseema and Seemandhra

Result of fake propaganda. who built sri ram sagar, Nagarjuna sagar left bank and all those projects. Ultimately it is not kaleswaram but these ap built projects which will supply lion share of telangana water.

[kidney]

4 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Nonsense - in that case why is Dora saying he will take more share of Krishna water than in the agreement. He would have complained that he is not getting the agreement share.

And where did you copy paste this from ?

he already complained.. KBR, NGT ordered to hold r0yalcheema irrigation projects..

Jalaga vinatledu..

[DummyVariable]

13 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

I said number one reason not only reason. And water issue is not "manufactured", water flows all though TG but never was allowed to use. TG movement has been there before the factors you said are reasons, just because you are not aware doesn't mean movement is not there.

 Comments like yours allowed for the movement to foster, not taking problems of a region seriously and pushing it on some secret society. Power has always been with higher castes throughout the history in every state, so what you are talking doesn't make any sense why it happened in TG? Same castes exist in AP as well, so how you came to that conclusion? Also the most important factor for creation of state was death of YSR invalidating your thesis. It always had grassroot support which is why it survived lot of years, of course politicians not taking issues seriously only made it bigger. 

It's a matter of time before AP is further divided into Rayalaseema and Seemandhra

You are speaking as if Dalits and Tribals of TG could take on Kammas and Reddys of AP. The rich castes of TG could only take on them. They were the ones that could supply the money and the political clout needed for something like this to happen. Read about the history of TG and know who controlled what under the Nizams. All those people did not become poor btw - some of them are super rich even to this day. They wanted what they ruled back and they go it. 

[Ryzen_renoir]

8 minutes ago, hyperbole said:

Jagan has done Cardinal mistake with RayalaSeema Lift Irrigation Project. 
It is like applying the salt on the wounds of Telangana People and the State:  
First why he did this in my view :
He wanted means to divert and secure more water to his native Rayalaseema.

Where he has Erred and committed Cardinal Mistake(s)

Srisailam is a Joint Project and AP is in breach of KRMB and CWC orders to install telemetry for Real time water discharge measurements from Potireddipadu and other Points
 

Entire Krishna River Water diversion scheme to Penna Basin has been cleverly managed in disguise of giving drinking water to chennai to get Krishna Tribunal clearances, while more than 90% of what is actually built is for Penna Basin Irrigation and drinking purposes all the utilization on record for Penna Basin is from the surplus river water while in reality Telangana state is yet to utilize its firm share and the diversion even now is actually from normal assured water (ie denial to Telangana for decades) reason why state happened

Telangana is not Only an equal state and joint owner of Srisailam, it showed the important attitude required between river riparian states to reach agreement on large projects before starting as it did with kaleshawaram by signing agreement with Maharashtra first

Telangana realizing much like Telangana Parched regin farmers water needs parts of rayalaseema farmers too have similar situation and since there is shortage in Krishna to serve both, it extended olive branch to solve both by Supplimenting Godavari Waters into Srisailam so that both Telangana and AP farmers water requirements could be fully secured.

 

Yes AP chose to Backstab and act Smart by Rejecting joint Godavari to Krishna diversion instead Created its own alternate of
1. enhance Godavari to Krishna diversion of Polavaram (TS would have no issue)
2. enhance Krishna to Penna diversion thru RLIP + Others
 

What AP has chosen to do RLIP + others is outright Backstabbing and its Breaching the Trust and Goodwill gesture by TS at many levels 
Govts will come and go, this Step by AP CM is very unbecoming and shows his immaturity and failure to reconcile to the fact Telangana is a state

AP has to STOP being "Too Clever By Half" and has to Reverse all its Backstabbing acts come clean with 100% telemetry monitoring by KRMB as first starting point 
else TS will launch counter measures - rightfully so
 

Nagarjuna Sagar Right Canal farmers and people under the ayacut and lifts on Right canal will be worst hit with the Too Clever By Half AP CM unilateral projects on Srisailam, RDS and others during deficit seasons ..
Within AP water fights are certain ..  
He should realize 🤔

 

 

 

Telangana has right to be apprehensive about rayalaseema lift irrigation project. 

But krishna river had more than 4000 TMC water go into ocean last two years but the water can be diverted for only 15-20 days 

Main problem is it can be misused in a drought year to divert water .

Giving  KRMB full control of the rayalaseema lift irrigation project would be a nice solution .  

Only divert the water when needs of krishna basin are fulfilled

[Pavanonline]

2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Result of fake propaganda. who built sri ram sagar, Nagarjuna sagar left bank and all those projects. Ultimately it is not kaleswaram but these ap built projects which will supply lion share of telangana water.

Lol, water supply lekane TG had lot of problems. So this lions share is a myth. Irrigation to agriculture land and daily use water supply increased a lot after bifurcation proving the point. 

[DummyVariable]

12 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

TG also produces excess grains. In fact andhra pradesh already converted TG in to a food surplus area. And TG also has urban jobs due to Hyd. This makes kaleswaram and these lolli even more ridiculous for TG. what will happen wit all those expensive irrigation water ? it will be exported to other states through food grains. basically it is subsiding cost of food for kannada, tamils and hindi fellows at cost of TG budget and TG forests and TG people getting displaced.

Irritation projects are a way to keep people poor lol. Chaduvukodhdhu, hi tech udhogalodhdhu, doctorlu, lawyerlu kaavodhdhu if you are someone from rural India. Farm lo pani chesukoni live on a meager wage. That is what the plan is by these rich people in power. Ekkada better options people ki isthe baagu padi valla polalalo, jagirlalo pani cheyaro ani vella donga alochana. Chesthunnadi anyayam, kaani manchi perlu vachchela gimmicks and propaganda. 

[Pavanonline]

7 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

You are speaking as if Dalits and Tribals of TG could take on Kammas and Reddys of AP. The rich castes of TG could only take on them. They were the ones that could supply the money and the political clout needed for something like this to happen. Read about the history of TG and know who controlled what under the Nizams. All those people did not become poor btw - some of them are super rich even to this day. They wanted what they ruled back and they go it. 

I don't understand one bit of what you are talking about. I laid out the reasons why I think your thesis is nonsense. You first said it's patel patwari system being ended, movement was there long before it ended so that is end of your meaningless argument. I also laid out how similar conditions exist in entire country and nothing special with TG. Reddies have more than considerable clout in TG so there goes another of your meaningless argument. What other rich castes are you talking about? Velamas? Their new found power is because of KCR not prior to that at least in a big way.

[Telugodura456]

11 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

Lol, water supply lekane TG had lot of problems. So this lions share is a myth. Irrigation to agriculture land and daily use water supply increased a lot after bifurcation proving the point. 

what is this halwa @jawaani_jaaneman = your teddy rulers not supplying water to TG.