kdapparao Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Pulkapresident said: No, 2019 lo gelichina MLAs 2019 la Bramaravathi repeal Vizag capital unda.. anduke neeku chepedi pacha media choodaku tammudu ani vintava vinavu.. inka yela tammudu neeku taggedi.. Quote
Pulkapresident Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: Kavulu isthunaru + motham land icheyali since state has broken promises. After all for farmers land is more precious than money No, you can call them real estate agents if you want. I don't mind. Farmers ayina real estate agents ayina. They donated their land to the Government, Government has to stick with agreement they made, period. Quote
Ryzen_renoir Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pulkapresident said: Like I said, in an already existing city, making it feasible to have an influx of immigrants in impossible. Outskirts lo ayite better. I will repeat what I said earlier, I don't have any preference to Amaravathi, if that happened in Donakonda, I would still support it. But people in Donakonda didn't donate their lands, people in Amaravathi did. You have no clue on what you are talking about , donakonda is almost exclusively govt land . 40k acres govt land undhi Sare leave donakonda alone, Nellore daggara krishnapatnam area lo govt has acquired 20000 acres , over half of it before state division Maaku kooda amaravathi lo atleast 1/3 rd of expenditure petti develop cheyali since these lands were acquired before amaravathi Isn't it a fair demand ? Quote
Pulkapresident Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said: There's no need to expand roads. Just redevelop localities into denser ones to house more people. and provide great public transport. that's the future cities are moving towards. Not expanding roads. Almost no city is trying to do this these days. Do you know how many people moved to Hyderabad because of everything that Hyderabad has to offer? There is no way Vizag can support that kind of influx of immigrants unless you move away from the city. Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Pulkapresident said: No, you can call them real estate agents if you want. I don't mind. Farmers ayina real estate agents ayina. They donated their land to the Government, Government has to stick with agreement they made, period. agreements can be negotiated with, and amended. it happens all the time. Quote
Ryzen_renoir Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Pulkapresident said: Do you know how many people moved to Hyderabad because of everything that Hyderabad has to offer? There is no way Vizag can support that kind of influx of immigrants unless you move away from the city. If vizag cannot support influx then what hopes does vijaywada extension have? Tell me how much private investment did krishna + Guntur districts attracted over the last 40 years outside of agri related industry Quote
Pulkapresident Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said: You have no clue on what you are talking about , donakonda is almost exclusively govt land . 40k acres govt land undhi Sare leave donakonda alone, Nellore daggara krishnapatnam area lo govt has acquired 20000 acres , over half of it before state division Maaku kooda amaravathi lo atleast 1/3 rd of expenditure petti develop cheyali since these lands were acquired before amaravathi Isn't it a fair demand ? Who donated it and what did they donate it for? Who made the agreement with the Government and what did the Government say they would do with it? If your demand is fair or not depends on your answers to these questions. Quote
Pulkapresident Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Ryzen_renoir said: If vizag cannot support influx then what hopes does vijaywada extension have? Tell me how much private investment did krishna + Guntur districts attracted over the last 40 years outside of agri related industry Vijayawada is so screwed up, the roads are horrible in comparison to Vizag. I am glad it was not made the capital. Quote
Pulkapresident Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: agreements can be negotiated with, and amended. it happens all the time. Sure, that's why it's in court. Quote
Ryzen_renoir Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Pulkapresident said: Who donated it and what did they donate it for? Who made the agreement with the Government and what did the Government say they would do with it? If your demand is fair or not depends on your answers to these questions. Donated enti ? Govt acquired it from farmers in return for jobs and development Govt still has not provided them jobs or did development , so according to your logic their lands must be developed and jobs provided to them before amaravathi since they gave away lands first Quote
Ryzen_renoir Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Pulkapresident said: Vijayawada is so screwed up, the roads are horrible in comparison to Vizag. I am glad it was not made the capital. Amaravathi anedhi vijaywada extension ey kadha ? Planned or not If people are saying amaravathi is self sustaining then let's build ten more self sustaining planned cities . What is your problem with that ? Quote
Pulkapresident Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Ryzen_renoir said: Donated enti ? Govt acquired it from farmers in return for jobs and development Govt still has not provided them jobs or did development , so according to your logic their lands must be developed and jobs provided to them before amaravathi since they gave away lands first When did they acquire and what did they say they will give to the farmers in return? If they took it for a blanket price or does the Government have an obligation to return part of their land to them? If they did, why didn't anyone file a case in the courts? Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pulkapresident said: Do you know how many people moved to Hyderabad because of everything that Hyderabad has to offer? There is no way Vizag can support that kind of influx of immigrants unless you move away from the city. Indians are not building dense cities like mumbai, kolkata with decent public transport. Vizag can be that city. ofcourse it doesn't need to be capital to be that. It just needs a lion's share of urban investments in AP. Hyderabad, Bangalore are not that good. They shouldn't be emulated at all. Quote
Pulkapresident Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: Amaravathi anedhi vijaywada extension ey kadha ? Planned or not If people are saying amaravathi is self sustaining then let's build ten more self sustaining planned cities . What is your problem with that ? I don't have a problem with that, but I am pretty sure after what happened with Amaravathi, no one in the right mind would donate any of their land to the Government, atleast in the state of Andhra Pradesh. We have some property in Vizag, would we be willing to donate it to the Government in return for 10 times more worth, NO. I don't think I am ready to do that unless there is a constitutional change that if the Government changes, policies cannot be retracted. Quote
Raven_Rayes Posted November 19, 2021 Report Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Pulkapresident said: I don't have a problem with that, but I am pretty sure after what happened with Amaravathi, no one in the right mind would donate any of their land to the Government, atleast in the state of Andhra Pradesh. We have some property in Vizag, would we be willing to donate it to the Government in return for 10 times more worth, NO. I don't think I am ready to do that unless there is a constitutional change that if the Government changes, policies cannot be retracted. actually most govts in the world just take the land through acquisition at half price or one-tenth in the name of public interest. Quote
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