Why Tokyo Is Insanely Well Designed...

[dasari4kntr]

 

Take out from this video....Japan aware about own country Oil reserves and needs..so spent money wisely on railway and public transport than...roads...

 

 

[Raven_Rayes]

mainly because of the zoning. Japan has centralized zoning at the national level. Its more draconian, but works well for Tokyo.

not sure it can be implemented in the west where zoning is in the purview of the individual cities.

[dasari4kntr]

8 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

mainly because of the zoning. Japan has centralized zoning at the national level. Its more draconian, but works well for Tokyo.

not sure it can be implemented in the west where zoning is in the purview of the individual cities.

West was heavily influenced with JOHN LOCKE philosophy like...individualism and capitalism...

they dont easily accept communal living like.. sharing transport..etc

[Rendu]

1 hour ago, dasari4kntr said:

 

Take out from this video....Japan aware about own country Oil reserves and needs..so spent money wisely on railway and public transport than...roads...

 

 

Ah Oil kosame gaaa omerika tho sunnam pettukundi...  Ah oil kosame ga dutch-indonesia ni akraminchindi.... 

[dasari4kntr]

7 minutes ago, Rendu said:

Ah Oil kosame gaaa omerika tho sunnam pettukundi...  Ah oil kosame ga dutch-indonesia ni akraminchindi.... 

ippudu ala aakrmichukolevu kaabatii…reality telusukundi…

[Raven_Rayes]

31 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

West was heavily influenced with JOHN LOCKE philosophy like...individualism and capitalism...

they dont easily accept communal living like.. sharing transport..etc

I think its not right reading of what is happening wrt to urban planning atleast.

asian cultures tend towards authoritarianism. A large body of people accept authority after they are convinced that its worthy of their respect. All asian countries were authoritarian at some point. some still are, like Vietnam. Its easy for the national govt to push policies on land use via national laws in these countries.

western cultures tend towards more communal living. with smaller groups. I don't think westerners are individualist. They show great affinity for niche groups - nerds, housing societies, city councils etc.. people who share a selfish interest come together and fight other groups for their right to do what they want to.

that's why US cities are a mess. groups cannot come to a decision on what is ideal for everyone.

western societies are not naturally indisposed to capitalism. Its something that they found convenient to use as a tool of exploitation.

Individualism is not popular in any culture. Even Indian philosophy has a lot of individualist elements to it, especially materialist philosophy of carvaka, but it never gained ground. Indian society is a lot like the west, not like asian culture. It's not going to accept authoritarians for long. Nor will its constituents trust delhi with everything.

[Raven_Rayes]

20 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

West was heavily influenced with JOHN LOCKE philosophy like...individualism and capitalism...

they dont easily accept communal living like.. sharing transport..etc

interesting thing about Tokyo zoning I read from here

https://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1173&context=crpsp

One of the most positive signs of the effectiveness of Japanese land use planning is that despite
growth in urban areas, housing remains affordable for the average person. This is largely a result

of the permission zoning and building requirements that allow for a constant, steady stream of new
construction to keep up with market demand for housing. In 2014, there were 142,417 housing
projects either completed or under construction in the city of Tokyo (Harding, 2016). This is more
than the amount of housing permits issued in the entire state of California (83,657), and in the
entire country of England (137,010) during the same period. The sheer amount of housing
construction is reflected by the cost of housing; housing prices in all of Tokyo have barely risen at
all from 1995-2015, a period in which housing prices rose 231% and 441% in San Francisco and
London, respectively. Even in Tokyo’s fastest growing, in demand ward of Minato, housing prices
have only risen 45% between 1995-2015

[Raven_Rayes]

22 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

West was heavily influenced with JOHN LOCKE philosophy like...individualism and capitalism...

they dont easily accept communal living like.. sharing transport..etc

more about individualism in Japan

Because of Japan’s strong landowner’s rights, everyone has the right
to use their land, so neighbors have no right to stop development and construction. As a result,
housing construction is constant, even in otherwise quiet residential neighborhoods. Frequently,
when a family buys an older house, they tear it down and build a new home on the property, rather
than remodeling or renovating the old house.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

23 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

West was heavily influenced with JOHN LOCKE philosophy like...individualism and capitalism...

they dont easily accept communal living like.. sharing transport..etc

In the USA/Canada its literally impossible for you to build whatever you want in the land you own.

in Japan they can build a shop, a restaurant in a residential area in Japan. because there's no such thing as residential zones and commercial zones.

in this instance, there's more individualism in Japan than the west, don't you think?

USA/Canada is bound by the community rules, which are often unreasonable and silly and prevent people from building to cater to the housing demand, which is through the roof.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

33 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

West was heavily influenced with JOHN LOCKE philosophy like...individualism and capitalism...

they dont easily accept communal living like.. sharing transport..etc

Is the US western in its ideology? I think US in the past 50yrs is slowly moving away from being western, into a boiling cauldron of all ethnicities, with greed and competitive spirit as its only driving ideology.

whatever US is gonna become in the future, it wont definitely become a white nationalist state.

Europe is western. and they gladly share transport have large welfare states etc.

[dasari4kntr]

20 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

I think its not right reading of what is happening wrt to urban planning atleast.

asian cultures tend towards authoritarianism. A large body of people accept authority after they are convinced that its worthy of their respect. All asian countries were authoritarian at some point. some still are, like Vietnam. Its easy for the national govt to push policies on land use via national laws in these countries.

western cultures tend towards more communal living. with smaller groups. I don't think westerners are individualist. They show great affinity for niche groups - nerds, housing societies, city councils etc.. people who share a selfish interest come together and fight other groups for their right to do what they want to.

that's why US cities are a mess. groups cannot come to a decision on what is ideal for everyone.

western societies are not naturally indisposed to capitalism. Its something that they found convenient to use as a tool of exploitation.

Individualism is not popular in any culture. Even Indian philosophy has a lot of individualist elements to it, especially materialist philosophy of carvaka, but it never gained ground. Indian society is a lot like the west, not like asian culture. It's not going to accept authoritarians for long. Nor will its constituents trust delhi with everything.

Jihn locke has heavy influence on…american revolution and american constitution…

Most of his writings are about individual rights..individual property..etc thats the seed for liberalism..eventually capitalism..

Agree with one point you mentioned…east was more authoritative....

 

[dasari4kntr]

19 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Is the US western in its ideology? I think US in the past 50yrs is slowly moving away from being western, into a boiling cauldron of all ethnicities, with greed and competitive spirit as its only driving ideology.

whatever US is gonna become in the future, it wont definitely become a white nationalist state.

Europe is western. and they gladly share transport have large welfare states etc.

 

35 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

more about individualism in Japan

Because of Japan’s strong landowner’s rights, everyone has the right
to use their land, so neighbors have no right to stop development and construction. As a result,
housing construction is constant, even in otherwise quiet residential neighborhoods. Frequently,
when a family buys an older house, they tear it down and build a new home on the property, rather
than remodeling or renovating the old house.

 

for an average American if you give two options like own transport and public transport…both arrival time and departure time same (with no traffic)…what he will choose..?

In the above video…japan spent more on rail road than motor road…because if road infra is good…everyone try to get own vehical eventually oil needs will increase..

in usa Vanderbilt lanti vallu…commercial railroad ki improve chesare kaani there was no public transport developments from the begining…

antha daaka enduku…follow the recent NYC surrounding rail road news…how old the infra is and how much trouble it was causing for commuters..but still no budget for improving rail infra…

 

[hyperbole]

Japan is the size of California(403,882 sq km vs Japan is approximately 377,915 sq km)but with 4X more people living in Japan, naturally it is more denser with limited space, the cities are also dense, naturally Public transportation makes sense much more than US. Inspite of all this Japan is the home to one of largest car manufacturers in the world(Toyota, isuzu, nissan, honda, subarau, suzuki etc)

Things like fore sight of fuel and gas are hyperbolic and they main reason being congested.