Yomama20 Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Hello Db friends, Long time no see. How are you all doing? I know a lot of you took experimental mrna injections despite many folks telling you not to. How do you do now? Did you get any side effects at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complex Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 most of us took , lopala em avuthundho a baghawantunke eruka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomama20 Posted February 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Just now, Complex said: most of us took , lopala em avuthundho a baghawantunke eruka Sorry brother. Nenu 2 years nundi socials lo telsina info share chesa ilanti things gurinchi and some thought i went crazy. Some of them texted and said they were sorryy that they didnt trust me back then and made fun of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper_Fi Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Hi, OP, virologist here. Can you point me to the part where it says these vaccines have serious side effects? Or which of the very long list of phase III adverse events (for all types of drugs) you are referring to? I don’t see them on first glance. Also, mRNA vaccines have been studied fairly extensively for several years (growing largely since somewhere between 2011-2013 if I recall, but I can dig in to find stats in a bit). In regards to your syncytial concern, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were designed using a template that forms a very specific stabilized pre-fusion version of the spike protein that does not behave like the native protein and is unlikely to cause syncytial formation. Moreover, both vaccines are intramuscular (IM) injections that deliver their cargo more strongly to a specific locale instead of to your entire system (I.e. your lungs). They are also non-replicative, which means that they cannot propagate in a way that would lead to widespread tissue damage the way that a natural infection would. In terms of how healthcare personnel feel about the vaccine, I only have my anecdotal data and the wider infection rates at my fingertips. I work for a governmental agency filled with essential healthcare personnel who are Immensely relieved to be vaccinated and are holding their breath for the rest of the country because vaccination is quite literally the only way this ends. Lastly, I would ask: what are your specific concerns about long-term effects of an mRNA virus? I would be happy to discuss them with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pm Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Semper_Fi said: Hi, OP, virologist here. Can you point me to the part where it says these vaccines have serious side effects? Or which of the very long list of phase III adverse events (for all types of drugs) you are referring to? I don’t see them on first glance. Also, mRNA vaccines have been studied fairly extensively for several years (growing largely since somewhere between 2011-2013 if I recall, but I can dig in to find stats in a bit). In regards to your syncytial concern, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were designed using a template that forms a very specific stabilized pre-fusion version of the spike protein that does not behave like the native protein and is unlikely to cause syncytial formation. Moreover, both vaccines are intramuscular (IM) injections that deliver their cargo more strongly to a specific locale instead of to your entire system (I.e. your lungs). They are also non-replicative, which means that they cannot propagate in a way that would lead to widespread tissue damage the way that a natural infection would. In terms of how healthcare personnel feel about the vaccine, I only have my anecdotal data and the wider infection rates at my fingertips. I work for a governmental agency filled with essential healthcare personnel who are Immensely relieved to be vaccinated and are holding their breath for the rest of the country because vaccination is quite literally the only way this ends. Lastly, I would ask: what are your specific concerns about long-term effects of an mRNA virus? I would be happy to discuss them with you. J&j gurinchi kooda details share pls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper_Fi Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 minute ago, 8pm said: J&j gurinchi kooda details share pls J&J isn't mRNA bro. It is viral vector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramudu Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 41 minutes ago, Semper_Fi said: Hi, OP, virologist here. Can you point me to the part where it says these vaccines have serious side effects? Or which of the very long list of phase III adverse events (for all types of drugs) you are referring to? I don’t see them on first glance. Also, mRNA vaccines have been studied fairly extensively for several years (growing largely since somewhere between 2011-2013 if I recall, but I can dig in to find stats in a bit). In regards to your syncytial concern, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were designed using a template that forms a very specific stabilized pre-fusion version of the spike protein that does not behave like the native protein and is unlikely to cause syncytial formation. Moreover, both vaccines are intramuscular (IM) injections that deliver their cargo more strongly to a specific locale instead of to your entire system (I.e. your lungs). They are also non-replicative, which means that they cannot propagate in a way that would lead to widespread tissue damage the way that a natural infection would. In terms of how healthcare personnel feel about the vaccine, I only have my anecdotal data and the wider infection rates at my fingertips. I work for a governmental agency filled with essential healthcare personnel who are Immensely relieved to be vaccinated and are holding their breath for the rest of the country because vaccination is quite literally the only way this ends. Lastly, I would ask: what are your specific concerns about long-term effects of an mRNA virus? I would be happy to discuss them with you. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complex Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Semper_Fi said: Hi, OP, virologist here. Can you point me to the part where it says these vaccines have serious side effects? Or which of the very long list of phase III adverse events (for all types of drugs) you are referring to? I don’t see them on first glance. Also, mRNA vaccines have been studied fairly extensively for several years (growing largely since somewhere between 2011-2013 if I recall, but I can dig in to find stats in a bit). In regards to your syncytial concern, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were designed using a template that forms a very specific stabilized pre-fusion version of the spike protein that does not behave like the native protein and is unlikely to cause syncytial formation. Moreover, both vaccines are intramuscular (IM) injections that deliver their cargo more strongly to a specific locale instead of to your entire system (I.e. your lungs). They are also non-replicative, which means that they cannot propagate in a way that would lead to widespread tissue damage the way that a natural infection would. In terms of how healthcare personnel feel about the vaccine, I only have my anecdotal data and the wider infection rates at my fingertips. I work for a governmental agency filled with essential healthcare personnel who are Immensely relieved to be vaccinated and are holding their breath for the rest of the country because vaccination is quite literally the only way this ends. Lastly, I would ask: what are your specific concerns about long-term effects of an mRNA virus? I would be happy to discuss them with you. edho medical terms ani chepav last ki me prakram safe e antav anthena? ala ayithe relax avutham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper_Fi Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 minute ago, ramudu said: mee lanti vallu ee DB ki chala avasaram , can you provide more gyan to us , recent gaa many posts about sudden cardiac arrest and many people believe this is due to recent vaccination , please let us know why sudden spike in cardiac arrest? Sure bro. Here is my source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complex Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Yomama20 said: Sorry brother. Nenu 2 years nundi socials lo telsina info share chesa ilanti things gurinchi and some thought i went crazy. Some of them texted and said they were sorryy that they didnt trust me back then and made fun of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complex Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Semper_Fi said: Sure bro. Here is my source. reddit lo comment esindhi merena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomama20 Posted February 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Complex said: Be aware of why things happen. Protect your families/kids from future military operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper_Fi Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Complex said: reddit lo comment esindhi merena? ledu vaaru evaro naku telidu. neenu just copy paste chesa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complex Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Just now, Semper_Fi said: ledu vaaru evaro naku telidu. neenu just copy paste chesa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiBalayyaaa Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Semper_Fi said: Hi, OP, virologist here. Can you point me to the part where it says these vaccines have serious side effects? Or which of the very long list of phase III adverse events (for all types of drugs) you are referring to? I don’t see them on first glance. Also, mRNA vaccines have been studied fairly extensively for several years (growing largely since somewhere between 2011-2013 if I recall, but I can dig in to find stats in a bit). In regards to your syncytial concern, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were designed using a template that forms a very specific stabilized pre-fusion version of the spike protein that does not behave like the native protein and is unlikely to cause syncytial formation. Moreover, both vaccines are intramuscular (IM) injections that deliver their cargo more strongly to a specific locale instead of to your entire system (I.e. your lungs). They are also non-replicative, which means that they cannot propagate in a way that would lead to widespread tissue damage the way that a natural infection would. In terms of how healthcare personnel feel about the vaccine, I only have my anecdotal data and the wider infection rates at my fingertips. I work for a governmental agency filled with essential healthcare personnel who are Immensely relieved to be vaccinated and are holding their breath for the rest of the country because vaccination is quite literally the only way this ends. Lastly, I would ask: what are your specific concerns about long-term effects of an mRNA virus? I would be happy to discuss them with you. Hi Virologist bro, mRNA vaccines haven't been used since 2011 in humans bro. The first time it was ever used was in patients with cancer, where the mRNA was encoded for neoantigens in patients tumor. The only reason they were approved in humans was because they were in patients with cancer who are about to die. Coming to the concern about the mRNA vaccine, the concern is not so much in what the protein encoded by mRNA, but actually the lipid particle that carries the mRNA. The lipid particle itself acts as an adjuvant, that could trigger multiple activation pathways, don't know which TLR pathway is activated (no studies have been done), don't know if NF-KB is activated. The point is, people realize that the lipid particle is activating the immune system, however the mechanism of activation is unknown. Besides, over activation of the immune system could lead to organ failure in the long run, just needs to be studied more before giving booster shot after booster shot to people for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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