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[Telugodura456]

Just now, Tryad said:

so you had to go because you had no choice.

I had a choice, and I chose liberal states to live in. simple.

we'll talk when you have a choice to decide where you and see what you choose.

until then all your complaints on liberals is whining of a loser who can get out, but doesn't want to miss all those goodies from actually walking the talk.

you had a choice because you are an elite fck. 99.99 % of humanity does not have a choice. And also you were not admited to us or can because of your "values" but because you showed  enough income/qualifications and law abiding.

[Tryad]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

you had a choice because you are an elite fck. 99.99 % of humanity does not have a choice. And also you were not admited to us or can because of your "values" but because you showed  enough income/qualifications and law abiding.

you are an elite fcuk too.. with IAS IPS for uncles. lmao.

may be you are not as smart to work yourself up to a place where you have the capacity to choose where you get to live, or you are just a hypocrite who wants to experience the best liberalism has to offer, while claiming that regressive systems back home are better than liberalism.

yeah US liberalism is still a restrictive state and allows only selected individuals. but its not the problem of liberalism - whose values are clearly defined. Its the problem of the state that is headed by illiberal people on whom a lot of liberal values are forced on to.

an ideal liberal state will be one without borders, in that it wouldn't be state even.

 

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Tryad said:

you are an elite fcuk too.. with IAS IPS for uncles. lmao.

may be you are not as smart to work yourself up to a place where you have the capacity to choose where you get to live, or you are just a hypocrite who wants to experience the best liberalism has to offer, while claiming that regressive systems back home are better than liberalism.

yeah US liberalism is still a restrictive state and allows only selected individuals. but its not the problem of liberalism - whose values are clearly defined. Its the problem of the state that is headed by illiberal people on whom a lot of liberal values are forced on to.

an ideal liberal state will be one without borders, in that it wouldn't be state even.

 

"liberalism" as you understand is a product of economic comfort and riches ra picchi mental narsi. Not a cause of it.

Most rich countries are very tolerant of differences - as they dont matter as everyone has enought to eat and enjoy.

[Tryad]

7 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

"liberalism" as you understand is a product of economic comfort and riches ra picchi mental narsi. Not a cause of it.

Most rich countries are very tolerant of differences - as they dont matter as everyone has enought to eat and enjoy.

no. I'm talking liberalism as an ideology. I aim to live in public housign in the west, not with asshole rich. Or atleast if I can't live in public housing, I want to start flooding local councils with members and allow for a lot of low cost housing developed in areas where asshole single home owners object to building it. I love to watch people squirm when they are made uncomfortable. because I'm a true liberal, who always expands the scope of what is possible for humans, not settle myself into a comfortable bubble and pretend that I've found utopia. I'll never find utopia, and will always mock people who do.

being tolerant of differences is not the same allowing space for expression of dissent. If you claim any country even comes close to allowing for the latter other than the US, I wanna have what you are smoking.

no country is as free as the US today. It may be because of its riches, but I see that its because of genuine love for freedom that exists in the US and avenues to express it.

It can be a lot better, yes. But as of now, there's no other place that even comes close to it.

[Tryad]

11 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

"liberalism" as you understand is a product of economic comfort and riches ra picchi mental narsi. Not a cause of it.

Most rich countries are very tolerant of differences - as they dont matter as everyone has enought to eat and enjoy.

you are obsessed with becoming rich and generous and kind.

I'm already rich and an insufferable asshole. I always make people uncomfortable first, test their patience before I even consider talking to them.

most of them give up midway and leave me alone. it works for me.

most people are shitheads not worthy of being acquaintances. very low standards for what passes off as decency to most people. I just avoid them.

[Telugodura456]

11 minutes ago, Tryad said:

no. I'm talking liberalism as an ideology. I aim to live in public housign in the west, not with asshole rich. Or atleast if I can't live in public housing, I want to start flooding local councils with members and allow for a lot of low cost housing developed in areas where asshole single home owners object to building it. I love to watch people squirm when they are made uncomfortable. because I'm a true liberal, who always expands the scope of what is possible for humans, not settle myself into a comfortable bubble and pretend that I've found utopia. I'll never find utopia, and will always mock people who do.

being tolerant of differences is not the same allowing space for expression of dissent. If you claim any country even comes close to allowing for the latter other than the US, I wanna have what you are smoking.

no country is as free as the US today. It may be because of its riches, but I see that its because of genuine love for freedom that exists in the US and avenues to express it.

It can be a lot better, yes. But as of now, there's no other place that even comes close to it.

you tried to use immigration as a validation of liberal values. And you failed as data utterly does not support you.

Who has most epxression of dissent is completely another topic.we have seen how it played in twitter saga. 

[Telugodura456]

11 minutes ago, Tryad said:

you are obsessed with becoming rich and generous and kind.

I'm already rich and an insufferable asshole. I always make people uncomfortable first, test their patience before I even consider talking to them.

most of them give up midway and leave me alone. it works for me.

most people are shitheads not worthy of being acquaintances. very low standards for what passes off as decency to most people. I just avoid them.

LOL

[Tryad]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

you tried to use immigration as a validation of liberal values. And you failed as data utterly does not support you.

Who has most epxression of dissent is completely another topic.we have seen how it played in twitter saga. 

what data? I made no such claim. I just said that you ended up in a liberal state and not in any other state since it is this state that is able to provide free flow of ideas and money, than any other competing state.

what data do you think negates that? that some british/americans want to live in Saudi? lmao.

what does twitter saga tell? that america chokes voices that it doesn't agree with? literally it proves the opposite. that there's constant challenging of the state in America, the kind that won't be allowed to exist anywhere.

[Tryad]

7 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

LOL

yeah, you want to yield to so many assholes and understand their point of view, that you become an asshole yourself.

and I don't mean 'you'.. but you as in generally. Its obvious you were an asshole to begin with, and if I was nicer to you, i run the risk of becoming unhinged like you, making half baked arguments in support of regressive societies that I've escaped from.

[Telugodura456]

Just now, Tryad said:

what data? I made no such claim. I just said that you ended up in a liberal state and not in any other state since it is this state that is able to provide free flow of ideas and money, than any other competing state.

what data do you think negates that? that some british/americans want to live in Saudi? lmao.

what does twitter saga tell? that america chokes voices that it doesn't agree with? literally it proves the opposite. that there's constant challenging of the state in America, the kind that won't be allowed to exist anywhere.

stop talking bullshit rra narsi. Most people migrate for economic reasons or to flee. 

America was the wealthiest nation in the world when slavery was legal and african americans were treated as property. what liberal values led to what you dumbfck.

[Tryad]

9 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

stop talking bullshit rra narsi. Most people migrate for economic reasons or to flee. 

America was the wealthiest nation in the world when slavery was legal and african americans were treated as property. what liberal values led to what you dumbfck.

It doesn't matter why they migrate ra. The condition that made such migration in large numbers was created by the liberal policies of the state they are migrating to ra.

how does what america did in the last century relevant to what we are talking now? Is US liberal or not today?

you want to have the cake and eat it too. you rail against liberal US wrecking havoc around the world and also claim that US is not liberal. lmao. make up your mind. confused idiot.

[Tryad]

9 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

stop talking bullshit rra narsi. Most people migrate for economic reasons or to flee. 

America was the wealthiest nation in the world when slavery was legal and african americans were treated as property. what liberal values led to what you dumbfck.

all this mental gymnastics to refuse to admit to the obvious truth that telugu states suck and are unliveable for you, and for a lot of people from your class.

all that fake love you have for telugu and andhra is just excuses you tell yourself that you will never abandon telugus. but you've already abandoned them, choosing for a more comfortable life with your enemies - the liberals.

its time you put down the act, and get on with your life, or move back to the telugu states.

[Telugodura456]

4 minutes ago, Tryad said:

It doesn't matter why they migrate ra. The condition that made such migration in large numbers was created by the liberal policies of the state they are migrating to ra.

how does what america did in the last century relevant to what we are talking now? Is US liberal or not today?

you want to have the cake and eat it too. you rail against liberal US wrecking havoc around the world and also claim that US is not liberal. lmao. make up your mind. confused idiot.

LOL . did you not say liberal values create money and wealth ? then how do you explain us being wealthiest in world with slavery and all. 

Again you are ignoring the fact migration in even larger numbers happened without any liberal state. And there is no point - you are an idiot who is consumed by some propoganda.

[Telugodura456]

2 minutes ago, Tryad said:

all this mental gymnastics to refuse to admit to the obvious truth that telugu states suck and are unliveable for you, and for a lot of people from your class.

all that fake love you have for telugu and andhra is just excuses you tell yourself that you will never abandon telugus. but you've already abandoned them, choosing for a more comfortable life with your enemies - the liberals.

its time you put down the act, and get on with your life, or move back to the telugu states.

STFU idiot - yes a lot of things in telugu state suck. I am not going to abandon it. At the same time i am not going to sacrfice everything for it. I just share my perspectives in this forum. I dont tell anyone what to do with their lives. use your brain idiot.

[Tryad]

Just now, Telugodura456 said:

LOL . did you not say liberal values create money and wealth ? then how do you explain us being wealthiest in world with slavery and all. 

Again you are ignoring the fact migration in even larger numbers happened without any liberal state. And there is no point - you are an idiot who is consumed by some propoganda.

no. I said liberal values created the condition that allowed migrants to move to the USA. wealth is a bonus. They also move to Canada which is not that wealthy. You can see 1000s of videos on youtube declaring 'dont come to canada'  😂

Its simple to explain US being 'wealthy' in the age of slavery. Everyone else was worse off than the US then. lmao. I didn't equate wealth to immigration, you did.

lets talk when there's no mad rush for 450k PRs that canada offers every year, because by now it is established that Canada is a very hard place to be successful unless you are a super genius and extremely motivated, unlike the US where even dumbfcuks can make some nice dough.

yeah sure larger numbers have definitely happened when there was no liberal state.. because there was 'no state' then. No visas. nothing. state is a modern creation. liberal state is its best and relatively fairest manifestation.