dasari4kntr Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 Science, religion, and philosophy are three different ways of understanding the world around us. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses, and they can be complementary to each other. Science is a systematic study of the natural world through observation, experimentation, and hypothesis testing. It is based on the belief that the universe is governed by natural laws that can be discovered through scientific inquiry. Science is often seen as the most objective way of understanding the world, but it can also be limited by its reliance on empirical evidence. Religion is a system of beliefs and practices that relate humanity to spirituality and moral values. It often involves the belief in a supernatural being or beings. Religion can provide comfort and guidance to its followers, but it can also be divisive and discriminatory. Philosophy is the study of fundamental questions about existence, knowledge, values, and reason. It is often seen as a more abstract and theoretical way of understanding the world than science or religion. Philosophy can help us to think critically about our beliefs and values, but it does not provide us with any definitive answers. In the context of understanding the world, science, religion, and philosophy can be seen as three different lenses through which we can view reality. Science provides us with a lens of empirical evidence, religion provides us with a lens of faith, and philosophy provides us with a lens of reason. Each lens has its own strengths and weaknesses, and no one lens can provide us with a complete understanding of the world. Ultimately, the best way to understand the world is to use all three lenses together. By combining the insights of science, religion, and philosophy, we can gain a more comprehensive and nuanced understanding of reality. Here is a table summarizing the key differences between science, religion, and philosophy: Characteristic Science Religion Philosophy Purpose To understand the natural world through observation, experimentation, and hypothesis testing To understand the meaning of life and the relationship between humanity and the divine To understand fundamental questions about existence, knowledge, values, and reason Methods Empirical evidence Faith Reason Strengths Objective, systematic, reliable Provides comfort and guidance Promotes critical thinking Weaknesses Limited by empirical evidence Can be divisive and discriminatory Does not provide definitive answers Relationship with other lenses Complementary Can be complementary or conflicting Can be complementary or conflicting 1 Quote
Barney_Stinson Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 philosophical science kavali Quote
Barney_Stinson Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 oka doubt - ee differences ey way nunchi chesuntaru ... could it be biased or neutral way which leads to another way Quote
SaradaChinnodu Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 vayyamo intha pedda post aa....repu saduvutha... 1 Quote
dasari4kntr Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Posted August 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Barney_Stinson said: oka doubt - ee differences ey way nunchi chesuntaru ... could it be biased or neutral way which leads to another way naaku konta understaning/opinion vundi ee differences paina... asked AI...almost matched my thoughts...so posted here... in philosophical studies empirical vs rational is a concept... empirical means...i believe what i see or hear or tasted or touched... rational means...i believe based on reason... ration (హేతువు (హేతువాదం)...అంటే కారణం..) science is strictly based on empirical...that means...based on experiments..and sensory knowledge... philosophy...most of it (not all)..based on reason/thinking/analysis/questioning..etc religion..is completely different path...it care less with facts..but high on morals...initial human civilization stage like cave man stage religion helped to teach moral to humans...but in advanced civilization...it lost its purpose..in fact it is bring back to early human civilization stages... 1 Quote
dasari4kntr Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Posted August 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Barney_Stinson said: philosophical science kavali its there already... inductive vs deductive reasoning...implemented in maths... most of the famous philosophers are mathematicians too....i can give bunch of examples... Quote
Barney_Stinson Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: naaku konta understaning/opinion vundi ee differences paina... asked AI...almost matched my thoughts...so posted here... in philosophical studies empirical vs rational is a concept... empirical means...i believe what i see or hear or tasted or touched... rational means...i believe based on reason... ration (హేతువు (హేతువాదం)...అంటే కారణం..) science is strictly based on empirical...that means...based on experiments..and sensory knowledge... philosophy...most of it (not all)..based on reason/thinking/analysis/questioning..etc religion..is completely different path...it care less with facts..but high on morals...initial human civilization stage like cave man stage religion helped to teach moral to humans...but in advanced civilization...it lost its purpose..in fact it is bring back to early human civilization stages... got it, kani mana indus valley before chala varaku science was embedded into religion ... like vedic knowledge and were quite advanced, so that kinda confuses me .. if religion was a more matured way of life understanding applied science or was it derailed totally and labelled with a face and then whole point was lost .. Quote
dasari4kntr Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Posted August 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, pavanjagan said: are you on bench? no...full work vundi... Quote
dasari4kntr Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Barney_Stinson said: got it, kani mana indus valley before chala varaku science was embedded into religion ... like vedic knowledge and were quite advanced, so that kinda confuses me .. if religion was a more matured way of life understanding applied science or was it derailed totally and labelled with a face and then whole point was lost .. ok.. coming to vedas and upanishads.. vedas - mostly ritualistic procedures and mantras...(this cant be useful in current days) upanishads - they are like vedas summaries....but discussed few philosophical concepts like...existence (ఈశా ఉపనిషద్), life and death, determinism vs karma..etc (but these are very useful for today thinkers..) now coming to western and eastern philosophies... all western philosophy thoughts are covered in eastern philosophies as well...but only difference is western philosophy didnt attribute the unanswered things to god...but in eastern philosophy...they attributed all unanswered things to god.. for example... causality ..which is cause and effect...(తెలుగులో కార్యకారణ సిద్దాంతం) ఇప్పుడు సృష్టిలో ఉన్న ఉన్నవాటిని రెండుగా విభజిస్తే ఒకటి product మరొకటి material…గా చెప్పవచ్చు.. కొన్ని materials నుంచి ఒక product..వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… అలాగే కొన్ని products (+ materials) నుంచి ఇంకో product…వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… ఉదాహరణకి ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ ఒక material…దాని నుండి glass and electronic chip వస్తాయి అవి products … glass and chip ని material గా వాడి మనం మనం Tv చేస్తాం అది ఇంకో product… అలాగే ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ అనే material/product కి అణువులు material …ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి/కార్యాణికి (existence) కి ఒక కారణం (product or material) ఉంది… ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి కారణం వెతుకుతూ పోతే మనం ఆగేది ఈ సృష్టి ఎలా వచ్చింది లేదా మూల కణం ఎక్కడ నుండి వచ్చింది లేదా time zero కి ముందు ఏముంది…వగైరా వగైరా…ప్రస్నలతోనే… ఈ ఆదికారణం (ultimate cause) కి సమాదానం తెలీక ఎవరికి తోచింది వాళ్ళు చెప్పుకుంటూ పోయారు..కోందరు (eastern philosophers) దేవుడు అంటారు…ఆ దేవుని existence కి మూలం(కారణం) ఏది..? ఇదే కార్యకారణ సిద్ధాంతం (causality)…finding the cause for everything exists in the world… అలాగే... మరికొందరు (western philosophers)...దానిని ఏ దేవుడు అనకుండా ప్రశ్నగా వదిలేసారు... Quote
Barney_Stinson Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, dasari4kntr said: ok.. coming to vedas and upanishads.. vedas - mostly ritualistic procedures and mantras...(this cant be useful in current days) upanishads - they are like vedas summaries....but discussed few philosophical concepts like...existence (ఈశా ఉపనిషద్), life and death, determinism vs karma..etc (but these are very useful for today thinkers..) now coming to western and eastern philosophies... all western philosophy thoughts are covered in eastern philosophies as well...but only difference is western philosophy didnt attribute the unanswered things to god...but in eastern philosophy...they attributed all unanswered things to god.. for example... causality ..which is cause and effect...(తెలుగులో కార్యకారణ సిద్దాంతం) ఇప్పుడు సృష్టిలో ఉన్న ఉన్నవాటిని రెండుగా విభజిస్తే ఒకటి product మరొకటి material…గా చెప్పవచ్చు.. కొన్ని materials నుంచి ఒక product..వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… అలాగే కొన్ని products (+ materials) నుంచి ఇంకో product…వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… ఉదాహరణకి ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ ఒక material…దాని నుండి glass and electronic chip వస్తాయి అవి products … glass and chip ని material గా వాడి మనం మనం Tv చేస్తాం అది ఇంకో product… అలాగే ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ అనే material/product కి అణువులు material …ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి/కార్యాణికి (existence) కి ఒక కారణం (product or material) ఉంది… ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి కారణం వెతుకుతూ పోతే మనం ఆగేది ఈ సృష్టి ఎలా వచ్చింది లేదా మూల కణం ఎక్కడ నుండి వచ్చింది లేదా time zero కి ముందు ఏముంది…వగైరా వగైరా…ప్రస్నలతోనే… ఈ ఆదికారణం (ultimate cause) కి సమాదానం తెలీక ఎవరికి తోచింది వాళ్ళు చెప్పుకుంటూ పోయారు..కోందరు (eastern philosophers) దేవుడు అంటారు…ఆ దేవుని existence కి మూలం(కారణం) ఏది..? ఇదే కార్యకారణ సిద్ధాంతం (causality)…finding the cause for everything exists in the world… అలాగే... మరికొందరు (western philosophers)...దానిని ఏ దేవుడు అనకుండా ప్రశ్నగా వదిలేసారు... interesting ... idk for some reason i assume ppl who wrote vedas or upanishads might have captured that from subject matter experts and those sme s would have known the ingredients (materials) and related products and uses ... nalanda univ was like the MIT of the world ane vallu .. so wondering why rest of the world landed in bihar for education .. unless we had sound scientific reasoning .. as time progressed the knowledge was lost or lost in translation Quote
pavanjagan Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, dasari4kntr said: no...full work vundi... ok bro Quote
dasari4kntr Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Posted August 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Barney_Stinson said: interesting ... idk for some reason i assume ppl who wrote vedas or upanishads might have captured that from subject matter experts and those sme s would have known the ingredients (materials) and related products and uses ... nalanda univ was like the MIT of the world ane vallu .. so wondering why rest of the world landed in bihar for education .. unless we had sound scientific reasoning .. as time progressed the knowledge was lost or lost in translation yup....ee nalanda gurinchi konni details vundali...i will post in some time...later.. Quote
maverick19 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 13 hours ago, dasari4kntr said: ok.. coming to vedas and upanishads.. vedas - mostly ritualistic procedures and mantras...(this cant be useful in current days) upanishads - they are like vedas summaries....but discussed few philosophical concepts like...existence (ఈశా ఉపనిషద్), life and death, determinism vs karma..etc (but these are very useful for today thinkers..) now coming to western and eastern philosophies... all western philosophy thoughts are covered in eastern philosophies as well...but only difference is western philosophy didnt attribute the unanswered things to god...but in eastern philosophy...they attributed all unanswered things to god.. for example... causality ..which is cause and effect...(తెలుగులో కార్యకారణ సిద్దాంతం) ఇప్పుడు సృష్టిలో ఉన్న ఉన్నవాటిని రెండుగా విభజిస్తే ఒకటి product మరొకటి material…గా చెప్పవచ్చు.. కొన్ని materials నుంచి ఒక product..వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… అలాగే కొన్ని products (+ materials) నుంచి ఇంకో product…వస్తుంది అనుకుందాం… ఉదాహరణకి ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ ఒక material…దాని నుండి glass and electronic chip వస్తాయి అవి products … glass and chip ని material గా వాడి మనం మనం Tv చేస్తాం అది ఇంకో product… అలాగే ఇసుకలో ఉన్న సిలికాన్ అనే material/product కి అణువులు material …ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి/కార్యాణికి (existence) కి ఒక కారణం (product or material) ఉంది… ఇలా ప్రతి అస్తిత్వానికి కారణం వెతుకుతూ పోతే మనం ఆగేది ఈ సృష్టి ఎలా వచ్చింది లేదా మూల కణం ఎక్కడ నుండి వచ్చింది లేదా time zero కి ముందు ఏముంది…వగైరా వగైరా…ప్రస్నలతోనే… ఈ ఆదికారణం (ultimate cause) కి సమాదానం తెలీక ఎవరికి తోచింది వాళ్ళు చెప్పుకుంటూ పోయారు..కోందరు (eastern philosophers) దేవుడు అంటారు…ఆ దేవుని existence కి మూలం(కారణం) ఏది..? ఇదే కార్యకారణ సిద్ధాంతం (causality)…finding the cause for everything exists in the world… అలాగే... మరికొందరు (western philosophers)...దానిని ఏ దేవుడు అనకుండా ప్రశ్నగా వదిలేసారు... i disagree with these statements. anna vedas are not ritualistic procedures and mantras. they include everything that was discovered during that ime both outward and inward. it was knowledge source ranging from how to build a bullock cart to how to attain to your ultimate nature. I dont think there was any Eastern philosophy. they were different school of thoughts. Eastern philosophy didnot attribute everything to god. that is a wrong statement. Quote
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