Let me tell you why Elonnnn Muskkkkk is biggest fraudster ever.

[kasi]

2 minutes ago, hunkyfunky said:

This is far from true. Google runs fully autonomous driverless taxis in phoenix.. But commercial auto-steer functionality in cars is far ahead of others . This is far from perfect,it only works probably 90% of time

raja already 30M miles.....mekodadamra swamy....basic google cheykunda endhuku swami vastharu 

[sattipandu]

2 minutes ago, hunkyfunky said:

Dec 21st s&p will bring billions more to tesla... Its not going to crash anytime soon

After inclusion expect a slow correction of atleast 10%

[kasi]

2 hours ago, snoww said:

He created 500 billion $ company from scratch. 

many countries won't mind even if he pays zero taxes. 

he created 50B company...herd took it to 500B

[kasi]

5 minutes ago, hunkyfunky said:

Dec 21st s&p will bring billions more to tesla... Its not going to crash anytime soon

100% true 

[sattipandu]

Just now, kasi said:

raja already 30M miles.....mekodadamra swamy....basic google cheykunda endhuku swami vastharu 

See geo fenced level 4 autonomy is what Google has achieved. 

Fundamental restriction of Google's approach is it's need for high definition maps .  

Tesla is just 1 step ahead with level 5 fsd in beta, the restriction on tesla's approach is the advanced computing power needed to make it's AI autopilot work in 99% of scenarios.

Questions to ponder over are ....

Can Google cost effectively do what it did in phoenix , all over the cities in the world? 

Can Tesla pack so much computing power into it's onboard AI autopilot and still keep it improving that it can avoid accident/loss of life/ incident in 99.99% scenarios.? 

Question is

Lidar or Non lidar?

[kasi]

40 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

See geo fenced level 4 autonomy is what Google has achieved. 

Fundamental restriction of Google's approach is it's need for high definition maps .  

lidar with maps....can be a good option. not if vision is exceptional  good 

40 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

Tesla is just 1 step ahead with level 5 fsd in beta, the restriction on tesla's approach is the advanced computing power needed to make it's AI autopilot work in 99% of scenarios.

its always the last few pound that gonna be real hard

40 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

Questions to ponder over are ....

Can Google cost effectively do what it did in phoenix , all over the cities in the world? 

Can Tesla pack so much computing power into it's onboard AI autopilot and still keep it improving that it can avoid accident/loss of life/ incident in 99.99% scenarios.? 

Question is

Lidar or Non lidar?

or both Lidar n C Vision 

[snoww]

4 hours ago, veerigadu said:

As an investor will you grade a company as awesome if it is 500 billion worth and reports only 100 million profit every year?

It's a total mismatch.

Amazon didn't reported profits for decades. That doesn't mean it was not profitable or it was not a good stock. Growth companies reinvest their money into R&D. Investors never looks at how much profit company is making as long as it is growing. That is why majority of tech startups don't have profits. 

Tesla doing same. Is all the money tesla spending on building factories not helpful to generate taxes ? Please don't talk like socialists. 

I know I won't be able to change your mind. So will leave this discussion here. 

[hunkyfunky]

Last 1% is real hard... First comers have real disadvantage as there is public attention. See what happened to Uber accident when the pilot driver was sleeping and the car didn't stop for cross walker. Tesla had few such accidents already and few more with fsd will be collapse for the company.

 

Musk was promising fsd for last 5 years He's not going to deliver it anytime soon because he knows the repercussions

 

[veerigadu]

It's another pyramid scheme in making. People who invested first will keep making money until new herd keeps coming in. Once it reaches stalemate the collapse will be rapid.

[kathanayaka]

On 12/4/2020 at 6:57 PM, veerigadu said:

1. For every 10 billion valuation of company he will make 1 billion profit. His package is based on performance of the company.  Approx 10% is lot for any CEO. 

2. So far SpaceX and affordable ev car are far from practical applications.  

Speculation trade meedha nadusthundhiiiii aaaadi stock value mottham. 

 

Edho aaadi  ideas on paper chusiiii janalu over excite avthunnaru inexperienced robinhood stock traders.

 

 

Biggest stock crash in history of stock market will be Tesla. Mark my word 

 

iga nuvvu kooda matladutunnavara musk gurinchi AFDB free post ani

nee zindagi mottam la oka autonomous car ki algorithm raasi chupeyi ra choot bhadacow. 

he proved . he employed . he earned. topic is over

 

[dasara_bullodu1]

31 minutes ago, veerigadu said:

It's another pyramid scheme in making. People who invested first will keep making money until new herd keeps coming in. Once it reaches stalemate the collapse will be rapid.

Tell one pyramid scheme that collapsed... last I know Amway vadi wife thatha kinda education scretary aindi

[sattipandu]

3 hours ago, kasi said:

lidar with maps....can be a good option. not if vision is exceptional  good 

its always the last few pound that gonna be real hard

or both Lidar n C Vision 

Haha and how do you think ev's will come down in price. 

Lidar is expensive man. 

Google solution is something that has to be cost effective.  

LAZR that debuted their lidar systems , shared it in their road map that only by adoption and constant iteration can they get the current systems cost by 50% by 2026  and they still are far down the line in terms to operating on low power.  

Have you ever heard anything about mileage efficiency that Google's chrysler pacifica minivans that are opeating autonomously in AZ , they are power hungry as hell, their boot compartment has spare batteries just power the lidar system. And it's a hybrid car.

 

36 minutes ago, dasara_bullodu1 said:

Tell one pyramid scheme that collapsed... last I know Amway vadi wife thatha kinda education scretary aindi

Please don't use shitty pyramid schemes to justify that Tesla isn't going to fail.  

It could fail for any n number of reasons but as long as they keep innovating they will not, it will not fail as long legacy mofos still trying to catch up , just showing prototypes and not producing or selling any ev's in sizeable quantities, it will not fail as long as they keep vertically integrating entire supply chain of materials what they need to keep churning out their ev's. 

VW is the only other legacy guy , even with a slighest understanding what a threat they face.

[dasara_bullodu1]

2 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

Haha and how do you think ev's will come down in price. 

Lidar is expensive man. 

Google solution is something that has to be cost effective.  

LAZR that debuted their lidar systems , shared it in their road map that only by adoption and constant iteration can they get the current systems cost by 50% by 2026  and they still are far down the line in terms to operating on low power.  

Have you ever heard anything about mileage efficiency that Google's chrysler pacifica minivans that are opeating autonomously in AZ , they are power hungry as hell, their boot compartment has spare batteries just power the lidar system. And it's a hybrid car.

 

Please don't use shitty pyramid schemes to justify that Tesla isn't going to fail.  

It could fail for any n number of reasons but as long as they keep innovating they will not, it will not fail as long legacy mofos still trying to catch up , just showing prototypes and not producing or selling any ev's in sizeable quantities, it will not fail as long as they keep vertically integrating entire supply chain of materials what they need to keep churning out their ev's. 

VW is the only other legacy guy , even with a slighest understanding what a threat they face.

I doubt innovation is the key... just look at iphones, they are at highest when Apple stopped innovating. It's all in brand name and some gimmiks...

[sattipandu]

1 minute ago, dasara_bullodu1 said:

I doubt innovation is the key... just look at iphones, they are at highest when Apple stopped innovating. It's all in brand name and some gimmiks...

Yes after some time things tend to platueau  

Building a brand to survive it a wise thing. 

But predicting a downfall just coz they stagnate is also stretching a little bit, let's reserve it for when we get there. 

 For now tesla ride will continue 

Bears will be right one day, haha .

Till then .....

[hunkyfunky]

One of 100 reasons why other car manufacturers can't catch up with tesla on use r experience is franchise system in USA. 

They can't sell without them and it means:

1. Sales Experience is very bad - compare apple store vs .... You get the idea 

2. No software updates to make continues improvements , without going to dealership and probably paying ( apple vs rest. ..you get barely 2 years of google updates, with crappy bloatware ) 

3. Manufacturers are struck with low margins and rely on volume.. where as tesla can sell few but make huge profits ( again apple vs rest )