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Raven - Low level Anarchist


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1 hour ago, Midnightsun said:

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The modern definition is wrongly interpreted as  aimless and chaotic

Anarchy means a place without government and absolute freedom for the individual 

Ideally anarchy empowers you as an individual to do as you please not bound by rules made by others.  too utopian for a human being , better suited for beings of higher consciousness 

Raven is not anarchist , he is a low key socialist who actually wants a strong state to redistribute power/wealth 

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This chart is all wrong , not a single  country falls under category 1 

Category 2 is probably few small ethnically homogeneous countries 

Most countries fall under category 3, even Somalia with no govt falls under it because they still have organised militant groups with order 

there is no country that falls under category 4 

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4 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

This chart is all wrong , not a single  country falls under category 1 

Category 2 is probably few small ethnically homogeneous countries 

Most countries fall under category 3, even Somalia with no govt falls under it because they still have organised militant groups with order 

there is no country that falls under category 4 

Cannot agree more than what you said.

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1 hour ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

The modern definition is wrongly interpreted as  aimless and chaotic

Anarchy means a place without government and absolute freedom for the individual 

Ideally anarchy empowers you as an individual to do as you please not bound by rules made by others.  too utopian for a human being , better suited for beings of higher consciousness 

Raven is not anarchist , he is a low key socialist who actually wants a strong state to redistribute power/wealth 

dude, how am I a socialist? holy crap. I'm just shitposting in this db, since the capitalist/racist/misogynist/dumbfcuk memes that assholes here post is just outdated and laughable. I may have participated in this farcical 'discussion board' by posting some cringe of my own that may be classified as 'leftist' at best.

I do identify myself as anarchist. But I can be accused of deferring to authority on subject matters, like economics. I'm merely repeating what majority of accomplished scientists in the field have said on economy. So me backing UBI for eg, is purely based on consensus of experts, and not any sort of deep thinking on that issue on my own.

even when I'm pushing back on govt loosening its hold on certain sectors of the economy, I'm only doing it to challenge the bs notion that it will improve productivity like magic. It won't. There's still the hard problem of fair regulation to consider, which a lot of 'capitalists' (actually losers who have never started a business on their own) pontificate on, because they listened to one youtube video from fcuking RGV.

I prefer to tear down all social, economic, and political structures, but I also agree that there are plenty of gaps where anarchist arrangements cannot meaningfully replicate the modern economy. I don't want to live like a caveman, or in a forest. I want to live in a bustling dense city full of interesting people who don't mind me.

So I try to not post about it too much, since decentralizing the economy is not an easy problem to solve, and all the anarchist solutions I've read and discussed with friends feel like hand wavy to me.

but I'm committed to being anarchist, because its part of my personality. It's impossible for me to physically respect another person's authority or even presence, unless they offer something meaningful in return. Not power over another person. I don't want that.

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1 hour ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

The modern definition is wrongly interpreted as  aimless and chaotic

Anarchy means a place without government and absolute freedom for the individual 

Ideally anarchy empowers you as an individual to do as you please not bound by rules made by others.  too utopian for a human being , better suited for beings of higher consciousness 

Raven is not anarchist , he is a low key socialist who actually wants a strong state to redistribute power/wealth 

Pure Socialism, distribution of wealth never works..proven many times in the world... USA also has socialism- social security, medicare etc. All countries has some form, but pure socialism failed all over world... Society will collapse - if I know I'll get paid same money no matter what I do, then that's end of progress/ innovation

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13 minutes ago, hunkyfunky2 said:

Pure Socialism, distribution of wealth never works..proven many times in the world... USA also has socialism- social security, medicare etc. All countries has some form, but pure socialism failed all over world... Society will collapse - if I know I'll get paid same money no matter what I do, then that's end of progress/ innovation

yeah. only feudalism works. its powering a lot of the innovation in India right now. like khatabook, and TakaTak. lol.

ideology is for fools, who think complex social interactions can be encapsulated into easily digestible 2 lines of cool sh1t that one can run with.

socialism is not 'distribution of wealth' btw. Its merely controlling means of production by those who produce it, instead of those who simply manage the production. It doesn't work because the rest of the society finds that idea foreign, and there is no special purpose vehicles to help that kind of organization succeed.

Majority of economics is value neutral. It doesn't favour or trash socialist models of production, merely tries to study different models of human behaviour. Its the power structure that is extremely anti socialist, not because it is doomed to fail, but because they are afraid that it would succeed. Hint. It won't.

People under socialist Russia were happy too, until the entire structure collapsed. They even invented a lot of useful things, just like the US did. So to claim that people only will work for money is just a very sad view of humanity. A very close minded one.

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25 minutes ago, hunkyfunky2 said:

Pure Socialism, distribution of wealth never works..proven many times in the world... USA also has socialism- social security, medicare etc. All countries has some form, but pure socialism failed all over world... Society will collapse - if I know I'll get paid same money no matter what I do, then that's end of progress/ innovation

everything works, if enough human capital and ingenuity is put behind it. Atleast until people grow weary or smug.

If China has taught the world anything, it is that even a low grade country with chronic incompetence in every sphere of human endeavour, can in fact compete with the most advanced western nations.

But can it be sustained? Obviously no.

 

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29 minutes ago, mirchi_bajji said:

we need all kind of ppl here . doe snot matter where he fits in the spectrum.

I'm off the spectrum. I may be the least ideologically motivated nutjob in this db.

I'm a different kind of clown, just not an ideological one.

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