dasari4kntr Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 the name నాస్తిక దర్శనాలు is wrongly circulated and became widely popular…it should be అవైదిక దర్శనాలు…. in those days who ever opposed vedas …they were labeled as నాస్తిక… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion123 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 charvaka matham ... RGV vaalla thatha cheppaadaa ..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion123 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 7 hours ago, dasari4kntr said: charvaka matham ... RGV vaalla thatha cheppaadaa ..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 7 hours ago, tyrion123 said: charvaka matham ... RGV vaalla thatha cheppaadaa ..? aa thumbnail wrong…including the word నాస్తిక … చార్వాకం అనేది మతం కాదు… in fact సాంఖ్యం, యోగం, జైనం, బౌద్దం, వైదికం, చార్వాకం,ద్వైతం, అద్వైతం, విశిష్టాద్వైతం, పాశుపాతం ..వగైరా వగైరా….అన్నీటిని దర్మాలు or దార్శనికాలు..అనేటోల్లు…తర్వాత తర్వాత భయట మతాలు చేరేసరికి వీటిని కూడా మతం అనడం మొదలైంది… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion123 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: aa thumbnail wrong…including the word నాస్తిక … చార్వాకం అనేది మతం కాదు… in fact సాంఖ్యం, యోగం, జైనం, బౌద్దం, వైదికం, చార్వాకం,ద్వైతం, అద్వైతం, విశిష్టాద్వైతం, పాశుపాతం ..వగైరా వగైరా….అన్నీటిని దర్మాలు or దార్శనికాలు..అనేటోల్లు…తర్వాత తర్వాత భయట మతాలు చేరేసరికి వీటిని కూడా మతం అనడం మొదలైంది… ok anna then what is charvakam ? it it religion, or philosophy of thought or a sect ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, tyrion123 said: ok anna then what is charvakam ? it it religion, or philosophy of thought or a sect ? philosophy of thought…and way of life.. చార్వాకలు - తియ్యని మాటలు చెప్పేవాళ్ళు…యజ్ఞాలు యాగాలు పూజలు మంత్రాలు దేవుళ్ళు అనేవి నమ్మరు…life ని enjoy చెయ్యి అని చెప్తారు.. kind of sophists… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion123 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: philosophy of thought…and way of life.. చార్వాకలు - తియ్యని మాటలు చెప్పేవాళ్ళు…యజ్ఞాలు యాగాలు పూజలు మంత్రాలు దేవుళ్ళు అనేవి నమ్మరు…life ని enjoy చెయ్యి అని చెప్తారు.. kind of sophists… but still a branch of hinduism ... where as jainism and buddhism are different religions ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, tyrion123 said: but still a branch of hinduism ... where as jainism and buddhism are different religions ... no… charvakam doesn’t approve vedas… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, tyrion123 said: ok anna then what is charvakam ? it it religion, or philosophy of thought or a sect ? it was a sect that first rejected the existence of supernatural beings completely. there were other atheist movements in the vedic period. one of Purva Mimasa who believed that the vedas weren't real but their only existence was in the power of the words used to invoke them. Aryabhata, one of the earliest Indian scientist was heavily involved in Carvaka thought. As a philosophy, it can be classified as materialist, one of the first in a long line of materialist thought that includes marxism too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said: it was a sect that first rejected the existence of supernatural beings completely. there were other atheist movements in the vedic period. one of Purva Mimasa who believed that the vedas weren't real but their only existence was in the power of the words used to invoke them. Aryabhata, one of the earliest Indian scientist was heavily involved in Carvaka thought. As a philosophy, it can be classified as materialist, one of the first in a long line of materialist thought that includes marxism too. before aryabatta…there was another materialist “makkalli goshaludu” ….who started “ajeevika” moment… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion123 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 but charvakam matuku RGV gadiki correct ga saripothundi ... !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion123 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 5 elements lo aakasam antay ... air kaadu ... "outer space" ... that can influence the life on earth !! like meteroites absoving all dinosaurs ... or how gold came to earth !!! n "elemnt air" means atmosphere !! ... which made "life" possible on earth !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: before aryabatta…there was another materialist “makkalli goshaludu” ….who started “ajeevika” moment… ajivika movement was more determinist. they believed that universe was composed at the fundamental level, physical particles whose movements were completely predetermined.. atleast this is what many believe about their thought because details about that movement is from second hand Buddhist and Jain sources, and not from their foundational texts. One of the most popular ajivika was Chandragupta Maurya's son Bindusara, who believed in prophecies about his son being the great emperor, because that's how he believed the world works. the constant fallacy that a lot of leftists and other sub national ethnic movements (like dravidianists) in India indulge in is repeating the convenient notion that Manusmriti was the authoritative text for Hindus.. It was not. An unbiased version of India's history will throw up an interesting mix of divergent ideas and laws (some of which were even written by women challenging male-centric laws). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: ajivika movement was more determinist. they believed that universe was composed at the fundamental level, physical particles whose movements were completely predetermined.. atleast this is what many believe about their thought because details about that movement is from second hand Buddhist and Jain sources, and not from their foundational texts. One of the most popular ajivika was Chandragupta Maurya's son Bindusara, who believed in prophecies about his son being the great emperor, because that's how he believed the world works. the constant fallacy that a lot of leftists and other sub national ethnic movements (like dravidianists) in India indulge in is repeating the convenient notion that Manusmriti was the authoritative text for Hindus.. It was not. An unbiased version of India's history will throw up an interesting mix of divergent ideas and laws (some of which were even written by women challenging male-centric laws). trivia of this makkali goshaludu and ajivika movement is…he satyed in same timeline with gowtham budda and jain mahaveer…. he had a physical fight with jain mahaveerudu who teches ahimsa… he had a conflict with budda followers because ajivika movement was disrupting buddism expansion (who teached reduce the desire) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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