kothavani Posted June 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, soodhilodaaram said: guruvu as generally chaala avasaram, but initial states lo its easy to get carried away by so called gurujis whose teaching are towards building a cult for themselves but hinduism as it stands today got embedded by vested interests of those who protected the knowledge in the past, plus add the centuries of disinformation embedded by mughals, british and some of the noble souls (to control their power souls) guru is more a career profession now than a noble soul who can show the path to others instead of turning oneselves into a cult follower (like in case of Triple Sri, no pun towards followers), i would rather understand the teachings of bhagavad geeta first before delving deeper into spirituality and look for a right guru, this is going to be the foundation that no one can disturb as you evolve with more knowledge in the future advantage of this approach is the chance of me turning into cult follower does not exists and my quest for deeper spiritualism enhances even further, my questions will be mature and help me drive forward further Thank you Ok will check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrita Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, soodhilodaaram said: guruvu as generally chaala avasaram, but initial states lo its easy to get carried away by so called gurujis whose teaching are towards building a cult for themselves but hinduism as it stands today got embedded by vested interests of those who protected the knowledge in the past, plus add the centuries of disinformation embedded by mughals, british and some of the noble souls (to control their power souls) guru is more a career profession now than a noble soul who can show the path to others instead of turning oneselves into a cult follower (like in case of Triple Sri, no pun towards followers), i would rather understand the teachings of bhagavad geeta first before delving deeper into spirituality and look for a right guru, this is going to be the foundation that no one can disturb as you evolve with more knowledge in the future advantage of this approach is the chance of me turning into cult follower does not exists and my quest for deeper spiritualism enhances even further, my questions will be mature and help me drive forward further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardman Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Watch Russell Brand's Podcasts. That way you won't get tied up to a particular religion and philosophy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soodhilodaaram Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Beardman said: Watch Russell Brand's Podcasts. That way you won't get tied up to a particular religion and philosophy. Sanatha Dharma is beyond a religion, look inside first before looking outside this is not applicable to confused souls though, I would rather trust something thats coming from ages than recent podcasts and richard dawkins/christopher hitchens, i am open to modern thoughts though, just saying as you brought up russell brand kind of thought replacing spirituality/religion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekunadam_enkanna Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 hours ago, kothavani said: Asalu genuine and simple guruvulu unnara ipdu? tried artofliving practices yoga were good but some how that group and process nachaledu ( me personally no offense) sadguru talks very good but he too seems hi fi for me went to his talks in Bay Area did not like three ranges of tickets etc ( me personally Emo ikada kuda e difference endi anipinchindi). Kodiga Ramana mahrshi teachings and followers simple ga anipistaru if you know any other Gurus teachings which genuinely touched your inner heart esukondi, asalu guruvu avsrama life lo if you are perfect , just to constantly remind you your path in life ? You know, people have done what the headspace app suggests. Many even achieved 'enlightenment' (it can't be put this way, since the line "Mr X is enlightened" itself is ill-formed). They have ended up in psychiatric wards. I even met a Telugu guy, who used to do meditation daily, achieved that state, like the way the headspace app did to some folks. He used to go to some Taiwanese Buddhist place. His state was called 'julai'. (He ended up being a Christian, when they could not figure out a way out of his problems). Anyway, this state is not stable, and can be seen as 'having gone crazy'. Buddhists call this stage "dark nights". Reaching this state is easy, even guru is not necessary. Some even say that having a guru can be become hindrance for this step. Only after this state, does 'one' need help from a guru: that's what the first line of "brahma sutras" say. Indians from Upanishadic times found a way to flip this stage to the next level; but this Upanishadic tradition died out, as Gita clearly shows. That's when other traditions sprang: they are "aagama" traditions. Here is where we see meditation, yoga, etc all kinds of techniques being used. Here is an article you may find interesting: https://web.archive.org/web/20190222020059/https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a25651175/the-other-side-of-paradise-how-i-left-a-buddhist-retreat-in-handcuffs/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thích_Quảng_Đức Thich Quang Duc, a buddhist monk, self-immolated in Ho Chin mien just before the Vietnam war. A reporter who watched it wrote: "I was to see that sight again, but once was enough. Flames were coming from a human being; his body was slowly withering and shriveling up, his head blackening and charring. In the air was the smell of burning human flesh; human beings burn surprisingly quickly. Behind me I could hear the sobbing of the Vietnamese who were now gathering. I was too shocked to cry, too confused to take notes or ask questions, too bewildered to even think ... As he burned he never moved a muscle, never uttered a sound, his outward composure in sharp contrast to the wailing people around him" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardman Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, soodhilodaaram said: Sanatha Dharma is beyond a religion, look inside first before looking outside this is not applicable to confused souls though, I would rather trust something thats coming from ages than recent podcasts and richard dawkins/christopher hitchens, i am open to modern thoughts though, just saying as you brought up russell brand kind of thought replacing spirituality/religion What do you mean by confused souls? The one who accepts god from every faith? Then you are wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samaja_varagamana Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 hours ago, r2d2 said: I agree with you 100%.. AOL.. the breathing exercises are good up to some extent.. but they take it to the extremes.. the talking gurus are crap.. edutivaadiki cheppetanduke neethulu vuntaayi.. self help is best help.. I get stress relief by doing gardening.. playing Tennis.. reading a book etc.. anduke i dont like chaganti and garikapati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soodhilodaaram Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Beardman said: What do you mean by confused souls? The one who accepts god from every faith? Then you are wrong my definition of confused soul : those who are born into a religion through family and yet to understand their own religion first before jumping into other religions for variety of reasons, most being career/financial/networking related rice bag converts are one such confused souls, they neither have their own religion they are born into nor the one they adopted, all they could see is rice bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardman Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, soodhilodaaram said: my definition of confused soul : those who are born into a religion through family and yet to understand their own religion first before jumping into other religions for variety of reasons, most being career/financial/networking related rice bag converts are one such confused souls, they neither have their own religion they are born into nor the one they adopted, all they could see is rice bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardman Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, soodhilodaaram said: my definition of confused soul : those who are born into a religion through family and yet to understand their own religion first before jumping into other religions for variety of reasons, most being career/financial/networking related rice bag converts are one such confused souls, they neither have their own religion they are born into nor the one they adopted, all they could see is rice bag True, rice bag converts are confused souls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasi Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 hours ago, kothavani said: Asalu genuine and simple guruvulu unnara ipdu? tried artofliving practices yoga were good but some how that group and process nachaledu ( me personally no offense) sadguru talks very good but he too seems hi fi for me went to his talks in Bay Area did not like three ranges of tickets etc ( me personally Emo ikada kuda e difference endi anipinchindi). Kodiga Ramana mahrshi teachings and followers simple ga anipistaru if you know any other Gurus teachings which genuinely touched your inner heart esukondi, asalu guruvu avsrama life lo if you are perfect , just to constantly remind you your path in life ? if you are paying for all this......i dont see what spirutality you are talking about, i see business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kothavani Posted June 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, kasi said: if you are paying for all this......i dont see what spirutality you are talking about, i see business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector8 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 hours ago, AleAle said: Positive negative anni chotla untay but the way u see matters osho vi konni antisocial ga untay as we r living in society have to maintain certain rules ,osho ni wrong ga project chesaru ,ayna evarochepte chupiste judgemental avdam kanna niku em anpinchindo follow avdam correct osho books r good ,YouTube videos untay avi chudandi 0SHO check 3rd paragraph - nsfw http://www.tantra-essence.com/2014/03/my-initiation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleAle Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, kasi said: if you are paying for all this......i dont see what spirutality you are talking about, i see business. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector8 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, AleAle said: Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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