RSUCHOU Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Recently I am seeing a lot of posts here where religion or castes get mentioned and chided. What was the role of your upbringing/environment/your caste or religion on your value system? I see while my core values definitely were derived from my parents and essentially my food habits determined by the home I grew up in, my value system and belief system are not a direct derivative. What's that in your case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputnik Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 core values parents ayinaa chala factors untay like perspective, introspection, exposure and experiences. If you give up your own logics and then let anyone else brainwash you then that's a different story 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonelyloner Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Core values were given by parents, But those seemed ubsurd for me. I respect them for not brainwashing me But i also have personal awakening from my PTSD. which has provided foundation and also lot of relief. introverted /can also be extroverted and has high respect for brotherhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galiraju Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 I never grew up..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonelyloner Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, galiraju said: I never grew up..lol Child like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galiraju Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Lonelyloner said: Child like? teledu man telesthy chepathanu ...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaa_pipaasi Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 core values are not directly derived from single source. our environment, parents, childhood, cinema, our role models, friends, colleagues, tastes, the bullying, the incidents that you face, the struggles that you had, mental strength, reasoning power ,to be able to know what's happening in the world and how it can effect us...ila cheppukuntu pothe..any thing in this world has the potential to influence your core values. We are all shaped by these directly and indirectly. what dominates us among all these is what we are made of.But how do we know if the core values are right or wrong comes from the experiences. We make mistakes..we correct them. He who corrects us is our guru. Who is guru..? parents and teachers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted January 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Core values according to me are the ones that determine your basic primal instinct. Those generally are formed by the time you are exposed to the external society. So, immediate environment generally determines those. But, in case of people that have undergone severe trauma etc, those values generally are refined according to the environments they are in after the trauma. In my case, I believe most of my beliefs were refined over a lot of time based on the exposure that I started having, Me being born in a certain household had lesser impact on that. If so, why the hell would/should I be proud of my caste or religion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonelyloner Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: Core values according to me are the ones that determine your basic primal instinct. Those generally are formed by the time you are exposed to the external society. So, immediate environment generally determines those. But, in case of people that have undergone severe trauma etc, those values generally are refined according to the environments they are in after the trauma. In my case, I believe most of my beliefs were refined over a lot of time based on the exposure that I started having, Me being born in a certain household had lesser impact on that. If so, why the hell would/should I be proud of my caste or religion? You are the one person in db who thinks out of box in respect to religion/caste. Similar to me Not everyone should have that kind of acceptance of other culture/ environments. They are shallow in thinking, let them embrace their caste/religion. West and Middle east have the concept that humans are born from adam and eve. It is an interesting story about oneness of the whole world. Unfortunately indian history teaches invaders/ hatred/ jealousy/ distorted history/ poor mythology ...etc etc. Self-realisation which lies beyond unity and diversity, is what constitutes religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSUCHOU Posted January 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Lonelyloner said: You are the one person in db who thinks out of box in respect to religion/caste. Similar to me Not everyone should have that kind of acceptance of other culture/ environments. They are shallow in thinking, let them embrace their caste/religion. West and Middle east have the concept that humans are born from adam and eve. It is an interesting story about oneness of the whole world. Unfortunately indian history teaches invaders/ hatred/ jealousy/ distorted history/ poor mythology ...etc etc. Self-realisation which lies beyond unity and diversity, is what constitutes religion. While I don't completely agree with you on what Indian History teaches, I sincerely believe, religions which started from basal instinct of flocks evolved into much more stupidity than the real need of oneness. I am not devoid of my caste or religion, but, I find nothing to be proud of or the necessity to fight for it as well. Caste and religion are very personal to individual. No need to flaunt it or shun it. I was born in a Hindu/Brahmin household. I had no choice in my birth. So, why flaunt that I am a Brahmin. My dad was/is openminded and let me choose who or what I wanted to be. I am an Agnostic Atheist. But as far as what religion preaches, I identify with all that talks about humanity, service to mankind etc. There are a lot of things that resonate with my belief system in Hinduism that don't interfere with my being an atheist. So, why cannot we leave it at that. I am sure, other religions will definitely have good in them. Is there anyone here that think they are who they are because of their caste or religion? If not, they why are we bringing in caste and religion to our every discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonelyloner Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: While I don't completely agree with you on what Indian History teaches, I sincerely believe, religions which started from basal instinct of flocks evolved into much more stupidity than the real need of oneness. I am not devoid of my caste or religion, but, I find nothing to be proud of or the necessity to fight for it as well. Caste and religion are very personal to individual. No need to flaunt it or shun it. I was born in a Hindu/Brahmin household. I had no choice in my birth. So, why flaunt that I am a Brahmin. My dad was/is openminded and let me choose who or what I wanted to be. I am an Agnostic Atheist. But as far as what religion preaches, I identify with all that talks about humanity, service to mankind etc. There are a lot of things that resonate with my belief system in Hinduism that don't interfere with my being an atheist. So, why cannot we leave it at that. I am sure, other religions will definitely have good in them. Is there anyone here that think they are who they are because of their caste or religion? If not, they why are we bringing in caste and religion to our every discussion? Ask @Daaarling its the id that brings shYt here and make a mess calling peaceful, anti nationals hindu were ancestors for whole world?? is she gone mad or what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonelyloner Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Tbf i am still researching on hinduism the claim that its the oldest itself makes me think about its genuinity i can conclude that i belong to hindu but won’t practice Persians who suffered under invaders are close friends of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaarling Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 hours ago, Lonelyloner said: Ask @Daaarling its the id that brings shYt here and make a mess calling peaceful, anti nationals hindu were ancestors for whole world?? is she gone mad or what Why are you diverting his topic and spilling out your own venom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaarling Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 hours ago, RSUCHOU said: While I don't completely agree with you on what Indian History teaches, I sincerely believe, religions which started from basal instinct of flocks evolved into much more stupidity than the real need of oneness. I am not devoid of my caste or religion, but, I find nothing to be proud of or the necessity to fight for it as well. Caste and religion are very personal to individual. No need to flaunt it or shun it. I was born in a Hindu/Brahmin household. I had no choice in my birth. So, why flaunt that I am a Brahmin. My dad was/is openminded and let me choose who or what I wanted to be. I am an Agnostic Atheist. But as far as what religion preaches, I identify with all that talks about humanity, service to mankind etc. There are a lot of things that resonate with my belief system in Hinduism that don't interfere with my being an atheist. So, why cannot we leave it at that. I am sure, other religions will definitely have good in them. Is there anyone here that think they are who they are because of their caste or religion? If not, they why are we bringing in caste and religion to our every discussion? 14 hours ago, Lonelyloner said: You are the one person in db who thinks out of box in respect to religion/caste. Similar to me Game Trailer Test your sustainability skills and discover how our SMASH Packaging program helps minimize ecological footprints. #alwayscurious merckgroup.com Not everyone should have that kind of acceptance of other culture/ environments. They are shallow in thinking, let them embrace their caste/religion. Game Trailer Test your sustainability skills and discover how our SMASH Packaging program helps minimize ecological footprints. #alwayscurious merckgroup.com West and Middle east have the concept that humans are born from adam and eve. It is an interesting story about oneness of the whole world. Unfortunately indian history teaches invaders/ hatred/ jealousy/ distorted history/ poor mythology ...etc etc. Self-realisation which lies beyond unity and diversity, is what constitutes religion. You are true descendants of Adam and Eve as you encourage marriage with cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaarling Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 These days calling oneself as Atheist has become cool. How can one be Atheist when it is clearly evident that nothing is in our control and there is one supreme controller called GOD, He has many names and forms as called by different sect of people. The problem comes when one of the sect try to dominate other by calling their faith is correct and everyone else who are not accepting it are infidels. Killing People, Making Sex slaves, Waging wars, Spreading terrorism has become normal activity of Peaceful community and I wonder why remaining peacefuls do not condemn it and come out of that Sh*t. @Lonelyloner @Picheshwar @narsy @csrcsr etc come in disguise of Atheist or non-believrs and spread glories of peaceful religion defaming Hinduism. What is the need. Hinduism has welcomed so many religions into India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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