Telugodura456 Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Mysore Narasimhachar Srinivas (1916–1999) was an Indian sociologist and social anthropologist who won lot of recognition for his work on caste in india. His most celebrated theory is Sanskritization aka Brahminization. It basically means in hindu society whenever a caste develops or improves influence it tries to imitiate brahmin caste - it tries to become more exclusive, invents sanskritic myths giving them divine origin (or kshatriya status), starts putting lot of emphasis on genes etc. Now lets apply this theory to Andhra and see how it true it is. Lets begin with cammodes. Until they achieved power they were one of the most likable cassets in andhra. They demanded equality through communism. Made great movies where chinnakaar ryths rebelled against zamindars and took away lands. People loved them when NTR rebelled against Yama in yamagola and all sorts of justice things. But once they got power they discovered their genes/blood and breed are different. THey gave themselves kshatriya title and began to think they are natural rulers and tried to imitate satavahana kings etc. This led to disgust in society and slow fall in popularity of TDP. But since Delhi also likes caste ineuqality (it makes it jobs easier) it allowed this. Even now TDP can easily come back to power if it shows how anti-cassette it is by doing something dramatic - like say sendraal son or balayya daugther marrying someone of another caste. But sanskritization kicks in and they always choose exclusivity against any other benefit. They will do everything like fancy plans for mega cities etc but don't do anything against the chief reason for their unpopularity. such is the attraction of sanskritization in indian society. Lets go to baapans. Never a popular cassete especially during british time when they loyally served british as gumasthas directing them to farmers land for sisthu collection. They became popular when they participated in freedom struggle with masses. And people loved them back and made them CMs. But sanskritization or brahmanization kicked in and they chose backroom politics of congress high command or rss rather than go with people even if it means giving up power. Lets go to cops. This casset sankritized itself before achieving any political power. Sanskritization has a different meaning for this cassette. Since they cannot claim the top position it basically means they will accept second rate position as long as commodes also forced in to same. But it is still about heirarchy. It has no history of waging any popular battles on behalf of masses against powerful. But wants political power with cini glamor or BJP. Therefore they never came closer to political power. THey tried some backroom tricks like falling at feet of mayawati or at communists. but these are just backroom tricks. Lost miserably in elections. Lets go to teddies. Teddies on their own are as useless as cops. All the power they got was through congress highcommand etc. But then YSR happened. YSR family is very less sanskritized compared to any other political family. They accepted christos, their children married in to different castes(while different caste is not a big deal unless it is lower caste). The christo relation made them immediately connect to masses and give an impression that they are somewhat more warm hearted or atleast less cold hearted than cammodes or cops. @NiranjanGaaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzen_renoir Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 DMK was also a positive force on tamil nadu , their emphasis on education , equality and atheist stand put tamil nadu on a good path . Ofcourse once the Backward classes gained power they started suppressing SC/ST . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thokkalee Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 bhayya, idantha nuvve type chesava?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: bhayya, idantha nuvve type chesava?? Yep! except first line i copied from wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: DMK was also a positive force on tamil nadu , their emphasis on education , equality and atheist stand put tamil nadu on a good path . Ofcourse once the Backward classes gained power they started suppressing SC/ST . Good point. But they still have theoretical foundations given by periyar which acts as a glue so they dont go too much. One reason why TN will not be divided like Delhi did easiliy with Telugu peopel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiranjanGaaru Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: DMK was also a positive force on tamil nadu , their emphasis on education , equality and atheist stand put tamil nadu on a good path . Ofcourse once the Backward classes gained power they started suppressing SC/ST . DMK itself a feudal party, prajalaki bisketlu esi generations generations same leaders ki votlu vestaru in constiuencies it is run by telugu landlords, nadars , vellalars, all forward castes 69% reservation valana niku obc anipistundi anthe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzen_renoir Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, NiranjanGaaru said: DMK itself a feudal party, prajalaki bisketlu esi generations generations same leaders ki votlu vestaru in constiuencies it is run by telugu landlords, nadars , vellalars, all forward castes 69% reservation valana niku obc anipistundi anthe Fuedal or corrupt or family based or whatever else , they have achived a lot of good for most people over the years . Their ideology also never compromised on states right . Consider the last 40 years , tamil nadu has out classes Andhra in every single metric . Shows how they are a class apart from congress or TDP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realestatebhogapuram Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Nonsense theory due to cinemas kshatriyas avathaara BS. Sacred thread is compulsory . Only rajus and few velamas in tg has that tradition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thokkalee Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: Yep! nuvu sooperu bhayya.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Realestatebhogapuram said: Nonsense theory due to cinemas kshatriyas avathaara BS. Sacred thread is compulsory . Only rajus and few velamas in tg has that tradition Babu theory is not making them kshatriyas. It observes and predicts a hindu caste will claim that as soon as they achieve dominance. Not all ofcourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiranjanGaaru Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: Fuedal or corrupt or family based or whatever else , they have achived a lot of good for most people over the years . Their ideology also never compromised on states right . Consider the last 40 years , tamil nadu has out classes Andhra in every single metric . Shows how they are a class apart from congress or TDP Vallu fikindi em ledu , no new educational institutions build by them , DMK gallu corrupt pundakors nothing else Divide people by fake Dravidian theory They did only Christian missionary works Mgr time lo medical colleges vachai ani vinna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiranjanGaaru Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: Babu theory is not making them kshatriyas. It observes and predicts a hindu caste will claim that as soon as they achieve dominance. Not all ofcourse. Claim cheskunte enti bro janal nammali kadha Lite tisko jamana kalam naati muchatlu ipudu enduku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, NiranjanGaaru said: Vallu fikindi em ledu , no new educational institutions build by them , DMK gallu corrupt pundakors nothing else Divide people by fake Dravidian theory They did only Christian missionary works Mgr time lo medical colleges vachai ani vinna MGR is also from same idelology. it split from DMK - both have parent organization DK founded by Periyar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telugodura456 Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, NiranjanGaaru said: Claim cheskunte enti bro janal nammali kadha Lite tisko jamana kalam naati muchatlu ipudu enduku I think it is highly relevant. Maybe you are not reading my post as it is intended. I am criticizing all this kshatriya thing not praising it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiranjanGaaru Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: MGR is also from same idelology. it split from DMK - both have parent organization DK founded by Periyar. MGR is not athiest by the way He is theist he visits temples. Do you know karunanidhi statements on Hindus Periyar ideology coming to end in this election for sure Even Stalin wife visting temples.. Stalin family is acting like parama bhaktulu, aiadmk sanagthi telsindhee they openly support ram temple and visits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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