Telugodura456 Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Ryzen_renoir said: India is a gutter country simply because it promoted failed socialist policies to propogate the power of a single family all over the people . Pv Narasimha Rao freed us from the tyranny of Delhi bureaucrats and power brokers . China is a capitalist haven today what socialism in india LOL. A socialist or communist country would never allow slums no matter how poor it is. It will never allow a working man to live on streets - ever see slums in cuba or vietnam or china even when it was poor. A socialist country would offer high quality medical care free of cost again like in cuba or many european countries as well - ever happened in india? a socialist country would offer free and high quality education to children which even capitalist america does - ever happened in india ? yendho india socialist anta. It was always a casteist, tribalist $hithole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzen_renoir Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said: what socialism in india LOL. A socialist or communist country would never allow slums no matter how poor it is. It will never allow a working man to live on streets - ever see slums in cuba or vietnam or china even when it was poor. A socialist country would offer high quality medical care free of cost again like in cuba or many european countries as well - ever happened in india? a socialist country would offer free and high quality education to children which even capitalist america does - ever happened in india ? yendho india socialist anta. It was always a casteist, tribalist $hithole. True it is a casteist , tribalist shithole that pretended to follow the socialism in the guise of state control over every walk of life . It still does to this day , central government has way too much power over everything and this nda government is monopolising even more power . They even wanted to remove all state rights on ports . Thankfully some states still have spine to oppose such moves , otherwise all coastal states will become begging bowl states under cow belt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Ryzen_renoir said: True it is a casteist , tribalist shithole that pretended to follow the socialism in the guise of state control over every walk of life . It still does to this day , central government has way too much power over everything and this nda government is monopolising even more power . They even wanted to remove all state rights on ports . Thankfully some states still have spine to oppose such moves , otherwise all coastal states will become begging bowl states under cow belt so why do you care about some lame ass communist party in a corner of the India, when india is currently being governed by the most bigoted, most incompetent, most evil bunch of people? anyway I think you are trying to balance your view on BJP with threads like this. and I'm trying to be generous here. You may also be a straight up bhakt, or a feudalist who feels that your 'right' to do business, supersedes the workers right to demand their share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightwinger091 Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 kerala produced "zero" jobs. all youth migrate outside kerala for jobs all thanks to leftist parties and unions there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Ryzen_renoir said: India is a gutter country simply because it promoted failed socialist policies to propogate the power of a single family all over the people . Pv Narasimha Rao freed us from the tyranny of Delhi bureaucrats and power brokers . China is a capitalist haven today you have to first define what communism, socialism is, before you keep claiming that they are failed ideologies. for eg. Chile in the early 1970s did a governance experiment called Project Cybersyn, with a cybernetics system model that was partly developed after the ruins of second world war in the US. It was commissioned by Allende a socialist/communist (whatever) who had just barely won an election. He had just nationalized large parts of the economy, and needed advice on how to make it work, while providing democratic choice for the lowest level worker. while also making sure that production wasn't affected. It was just a control systems that took data from each factory and gave the management the input to make decisions. Allende was killed in a coup that was supported by US. Its not ideology that governs dude. Claiming that so and so party are failures because they didn't let you open a business is just childish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, rightwinger091 said: kerala produced "zero" jobs. all youth migrate outside kerala for jobs all thanks to leftist parties and unions there how does it matter? Kerala is still way better than the hellhole that your Bhisht fcuker rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/10/2021 at 7:43 AM, Ryzen_renoir said: If you notice the HDI of india before 1991 and afterwards you will notice the tremendous progress we made in mean time . Socialist ideas will never work in long term because human beings are greedy creatures . Manufacturing sector develop kavali antey we need to give them almost zero tax like china for 20 years but when has india ever done that ? None of our governments care about that even this modi sarkar dude. what is a 'socialist idea'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzen_renoir Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: dude. what is a 'socialist idea'? In india , it is state control , or by political parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightwinger091 Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said: how does it matter? Kerala is still way better than the hellhole that your Bhisht fcuker rules. kerala is surviving on remittances from middleeast. that honeymoon period is narrowing and will soon end. then you will see kerala becoming a sh1thole worse than uttar pradesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, rightwinger091 said: kerala is surviving on remittances from middleeast. that honeymoon period is narrowing and will soon end. then you will see kerala becoming a sh1thole worse than uttar pradesh we'll talk about it when that happens. right now, bhisht fcuker, and that Modi fcuker can shut their stupid traps about kerala if they have any sense of shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Ryzen_renoir said: In india , it is state control , or by political parties State control of what? production? - if that is the criteria, then kerala is not socialist. if you claim that a strike by union workers is the same as political parties controlling production, then you are just clutching at straws to prove your point. I don't understand what you are trying to say in this thread anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_durden Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 India lo anything and everything can be concluded by saying something about Modi. Wow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tyler_durden said: India lo anything and everything can be concluded by saying something about Modi. Wow!! yes. Modi is a piece of fcuking sh1t. ask the TS, what the point of this thread is about first. he had 3 pages of conversation about capitalism/communism which made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Tyler_durden said: India lo anything and everything can be concluded by saying something about Modi. Wow!! guys take ids like rightwinger, and post boring repetitive trash. The least we can do is post repetitive trash about Modi from our side too. Modi truly sucks. I hope he dies a horrible death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Ryzen_renoir said: In india , it is state control , or by political parties honestly man, capitalism is a fcuking primitive system now. I can't believe people still think private enterprise is the magic bullet that is going to save a country. the alternative is not socialism.. but pretending like capitalism is going to bring development is just hilarious in this information age. Its so easy to simply open up the economy. Even the illiterate Bhisht can do it. Why do you think smarter govts in India maintain some sort of social welfare systems to make sure that those who get left behind in this 'capitalist' rush pick themselves up to participate in it later? China is not a capitalist haven. There's no capitalist haven. Even multinational corporations are managed economies, with strong feedback loops. Kerala decided to manage its economy in a way that serves them well. Using the experience of a businessman to make a broad point about communists is pretty much meaningless. Yes, Kerala is not as inviting to businesses as say, Gujarat. But that comes with their idea of governance. To blame this only on communists is dishonest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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