For those keeping track at home, news after the midterms

[pakeer_saab]

2 hours ago, Thokkalee said:

If patients are able to get more than they need (over prescription) and overdose on it, what can the fda do? It will poison you.. 

For eg: NyQuil.. if you drink the whole bottle, it can kill you or severely damage your liver.. 

I am not saying that fda recommendations are 100% correct all the time.. they work within a framework and base their recommendations on studies made by researchers on control groups.. it is okay to say that one of their recommendation is wrong based on a proof.. but it is not okay to say that they are wrong all the time because they were wrong once.. 

wrong several times in the past means they may not be right this time as well, when it comes to human health benefit of doubt should rest on avoiding the approval not vice versa

so you are sayijng the opiod pandemic is not to due to FDA but stupidity of people ?? is this what you mean??

these are the same bunch of people who fell under the same logic you mentioned earlier

[Thokkalee]

2 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

wrong several times in the past means they may not be right this time as well, when it comes to human health benefit of doubt should rest on avoiding the approval not vice versa

so you are sayijng the opiod pandemic is not to due to FDA but stupidity of people ?? is this what you mean??

these are the same bunch of people who fell under the same logic you mentioned earlier

I don’t get this.. if fda asks you not to use something because of findings that it is not good, and if you still want to use it, no one will stop you.. all they do is give recommendation… how is this harming someone.. all scientific recommendations are based on controlled studies done by reputed organizations… 

opioid pandemic is because of the greedy pharma companies and doctors and other companies who pushed this as a cure for all problems and also over prescriptions to earn more profits… 

[pakeer_saab]

11 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

I don’t get this.. if fda asks you not to use something because of findings that it is not good, and if you still want to use it, no one will stop you.. all they do is give recommendation… how is this harming someone.. all scientific recommendations are based on controlled studies done by reputed organizations… 

opioid pandemic is because of the greedy pharma companies and doctors and other companies who pushed this as a cure for all problems and also over prescriptions to earn more profits… 

are you saying doctors prescribed these drugs without fda approval?? or did FDA approved them under pressure from pharma

[Thokkalee]

1 minute ago, pakeer_saab said:

are you saying doctors prescribed these drugs without fda approval?? or did FDA approved them under pressure from pharma

Opiods are very helpful for pain related treatments after surgery recovery..  Opioids are also habit inducing and addictive as well… if they get used to it, they cannot live without it (more like recreational drugs).. if a doctor prescribes a medicine they tell you how much dose to take, it is upto the patient to follow it… if they take more (misuse) , the doctor cannot monitor and control it… all they can do is control how much they can prescribe… 

[southyeast]

3 hours ago, pakeer_saab said:

are you saying doctors prescribed these drugs without fda approval?? or did FDA approved them under pressure from pharma

I hope this helps:

R's had control of all three houses in 2016 and did nothing about Clinton's emails and they they ran their campaing on draining the swamp and did nothing all they did is corporate/high income individual tax cuts and added 7 Trillion to the deficit when left the Whitehouse. Bookmark this and come back after 2 years and you will still have HB laptop conspiracy unless it is real.

FDA does not give the dosage information(doctors do), all they do is the viability of the drug and any life threatening conditions developed after taking the drug over time. 

There are lot of doctors who over prescribed the opioids, some based on the patient insistence and some with no choice as the patients can get the opioids in black market. 

I think the FDA did their best based on the information they have and collect during the Pandemic. There were ivermectin over dosage cases, where people purchased it from animal pharmacy stores and took them as preventive care. 

Here is a research paper  that was published in 2020 and FDA cautioned about the using ivermectin under doctors care. No scientific research 100% correct from the approval, FDA accesses and updates the guidance. There were lot of people who did not put the masks and ignored social distancing and gathered in groups.

There were CDC, NIH, FDA and other organizations providing the information and Mr.D would screw that up on Twitter and when he got Covid-19, he could have insisted to get ivermectin but he did not and his medical treatment records should show that if he for sure cares about the people who voted him.

In your opinion, should the decision be rested entirely on the doctors with out any oversight? Remember opioid crisis is what happens when there is no proper oversight.

Student loan forgiveness has not yet been ruled, everything that is floating is the opinion articles. R's have tried to repeal and took Affordable care act to court and congress and could not do anything about it and it is has record enrollments this year. We did not hear Mr.T's beautiful healthcare plan that is going to be the best and blow away ACA.

Classified documents are classified, does not have to be nueacler codes, can be spy information or anything related to National security. Edward Snowden did not release the nuclear codes but he is being prosecuted for that, here is another article about classified information leakage with 30 month sentence. President is not a King and has to be treated equally with other citizens.

OK Informants cannot be revealed as it could harm them and their families and there could be on going investigations that require informants to be undercover. Who was the President during Jaaan 6. 

Most of the elected officials do insider trading, some get caught and some go unnoticed. It is broader problem which needs to be solved by Bi-partisan legislature.

Please correct me with reputed sources and open to correct myself.

Good luck!

 

Edit: typo

 

 

[pakeer_saab]

15 minutes ago, southyeast said:

I hope this helps:

R's had control of all three houses in 2016 and did nothing about Clinton's emails and they they ran their campaing on draining the swamp and did nothing all they did is corporate/high income individual tax cuts and added 7 Trillion to the deficit when left the Whitehouse. Bookmark this and come back after 2 years and you will still have HB laptop conspiracy unless it is real.

FDA does not give the dosage information(doctors do), all they do is the viability of the drug and any life threatening conditions developed after taking the drug over time. 

There are lot of doctors who over prescribed the opioids, some based on the patient insistence and some with no choice as the patients can get the opioids in black market. 

I think the FDA did their best based on the information they have and collect during the Pandemic. There were ivermectin over dosage cases, where people purchased it from animal pharmacy stores and took them as preventive care. 

Here is a research paper  that was published in 2020 and FDA cautioned about the using ivermectin under doctors care. No scientific research 100% correct from the approval, FDA accesses and updates the guidance. There were lot of people who did not put the masks and ignored social distancing and gathered in groups.

There were CDC, NIH, FDA and other organizations providing the information and Mr.D would screw that up on Twitter and when he got Covid-19, he could have insisted to get ivermectin but he did not and his medical treatment records should show that if he for sure cares about the people who voted him.

In your opinion, should the decision be rested entirely on the doctors with out any oversight? Remember opioid crisis is what happens when there is no proper oversight.

Student loan forgiveness has not yet been ruled, everything that is floating is the opinion articles. R's have tried to repeal and took Affordable care act to court and congress and could not do anything about it and it is has record enrollments this year. We did not here Mr.T's beautiful healthcare plan that is going to be the best and blow away ACA.

Classified documents are classified, does not have to be nueacler codes, can be spy information or anything related to National security. Edward Snowden did not release the nuclear codes but he is being prosecuted for that, here is another article about classified information leakage with 30 month sentence. President is not a King and has to be treated equally with other citizens.

OK Informants cannot be revealed as it could harm them and their families and there could be on going investigations that require informants to be undercover. Who was the President during Jaaan 6. 

Most of the elected officials do insider trading, some get caught and some go unnoticed. It is broader problem which needs to be solved by Bi-partisan legislature.

Please correct me with reputed sources and open to correct myself.

Good luck!

 

Edit: typo

 

 

come back in Jan 2023 and edit your story

[southyeast]

14 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

come back in Jan 2023 and edit your story

Sure, I will bookmark this and update my post. As I said I am open to correct myself given credible sources.

[Pavanonline]

1 hour ago, southyeast said:

I hope this helps:

R's had control of all three houses in 2016 and did nothing about Clinton's emails and they they ran their campaing on draining the swamp and did nothing all they did is corporate/high income individual tax cuts and added 7 Trillion to the deficit when left the Whitehouse. Bookmark this and come back after 2 years and you will still have HB laptop conspiracy unless it is real.

Hb laptop is real, all news papers wrote about it though only recently. it’s not a conspiracy although it was made one by media, big tech in support with fbi.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/06/hunter-biden-tax-gun-charges/

there are lot more sleazy things in that laptop that was fully verified.

All other things I agree that gop didn’t drain the swamp which came back and bit them big time.

1 hour ago, southyeast said:

FDA does not give the dosage information(doctors do), all they do is the viability of the drug and any life threatening conditions developed after taking the drug over time. 

There are lot of doctors who over prescribed the opioids, some based on the patient insistence and some with no choice as the patients can get the opioids in black market. 

I think the FDA did their best based on the information they have and collect during the Pandemic. There were ivermectin over dosage cases, where people purchased it from animal pharmacy stores and took them as preventive care. 
 

The animal ivermectin is pure bs. There was one case where a woman killed her husband with it and blamed it on trump and media ran with it. And the whole issue is about the credibility of federal agencies. The debacle of fbi, cdc made no one believe a word they say. And we should still take cdc with a grain of salt. It was the way they tweeted about it that was wrong. 

1 hour ago, southyeast said:

Here is a research paper  that was published in 2020 and FDA cautioned about the using ivermectin under doctors care. No scientific research 100% correct from the approval, FDA accesses and updates the guidance. There were lot of people who did not put the masks and ignored social distancing and gathered in groups.

There were CDC, NIH, FDA and other organizations providing the information and Mr.D would screw that up on Twitter and when he got Covid-19, he could have insisted to get ivermectin but he did not and his medical treatment records should show that if he for sure cares about the people who voted him.

In your opinion, should the decision be rested entirely on the doctors with out any oversight? Remember opioid crisis is what happens when there is no proper oversight.

Student loan forgiveness has not yet been ruled, everything that is floating is the opinion articles. R's have tried to repeal and took Affordable care act to court and congress and could not do anything about it and it is has record enrollments this year. We did not here Mr.T's beautiful healthcare plan that is going to be the best and blow away ACA.

 president can’t distribute money without approval of Congress, if he gets away with this usa will become andhra in no time. King comment actually suits Biden more than trump because president is the authority in classifying documents and Congress is in charge of purse. ACA is a law which is way different than student loans.

1 hour ago, southyeast said:

Classified documents are classified, does not have to be nueacler codes, can be spy information or anything related to National security. Edward Snowden did not release the nuclear codes but he is being prosecuted for that, here is another article about classified information leakage with 30 month sentence. President is not a King and has to be treated equally with other citizens.

Trump is wrong in not returning the docs but it should have been resolved behind the doors. President has wide authority on classified info and you can’t compare with Edward Snowden and Intent is always important in any case. they are prosecuting the case under presidential records act which has no criminal penalties. Every time they can’t get him they add “obstruction of justice”. 

1 hour ago, southyeast said:

OK Informants cannot be revealed as it could harm them and their families and there could be on going investigations that require informants to be undercover. Who was the President during Jaaan 6. 
 

no one is asking for their addresses, there is a legitimate public interest of what shenanigans their govt is playing in name of security and if they played a role here like in case of gov whitmer kidnap in starting or instigating the issue.

1 hour ago, southyeast said:

Most of the elected officials do insider trading, some get caught and some go unnoticed. It is broader problem which needs to be solved by Bi-partisan legislature.

Please correct me with reputed sources and open to correct myself.

Good luck!

 

Edit: typo

 

 

 

One should question the govt and not take everything they say as truth, which is how healthy democracies work. And there should be equal application of law regardless of political affiliation.