‘CAA Fundamentally Discriminatory…’: U.S. & UN Question India Over New Citizenship Law

[Android_Halwa]

3 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

capitalism is private ownership….so ancient india has private ownership..?

 

Capitalism ante Private Ownership..!!!! Sare nuv anukunnatu, niku ardam Ayela seppalante Ancient India la Kings owned everything, had ownership of everything, by default Kingdom la rich ante king ae...he had his men trade goods across other territories, had the ownership of mines and minerals, ownership of just everything and at their sole discretion, certain powers and shares were distributed among the family and well wishers.

Now, ikada system feudal and type of economic activity is capitalism..

Rendu kalipi keema chesi pai pina heading sadutav ani selvaiyaku vayya....nee language la chepalante feudal and capitalism madhyalo parallel draw cheyadam antaru..

Sovereignty ante chatak pav antav...Capitalism society la feudalism patukostav...kya comedy hai bhai..!!

[Android_Halwa]

25 minutes ago, summer27 said:

 

asalu nuvvu baaga confusion lo unnavv.. Just because UAE is ruled by Monarchy doesn't make it any less capitalist than USA or UK or India.. UAE for all practical purposes is capitalist..

For that matter even today's china is very much capitalist..

True. China is a perfect example of socialist governance run by capitalist trade. So is Germany, the whole northern European block, present-day Germany, Polan, France, etc are heavily influenced by socialistic ideals but their business is purely capitalistic where profit, loss, and interest matter the most than the wellbeing of its citizens. I mean, the form of governance and type of economic activity has completely been separated and it is a successful model now. 

Even the UAE, whose governance is completely based on the religion, have special provisions for their economic activity. Their religion prohibits interest which is a primary component of capitalism yet they have improvised the system to support the businesses and trade. 

Just that some people get confused with form of governance and type of economic activity...

[dasari4kntr]

18 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Capitalism ante Private Ownership..!!!! Sare nuv anukunnatu, niku ardam Ayela seppalante Ancient India la Kings owned everything, had ownership of everything, by default Kingdom la rich ante king ae...he had his men trade goods across other territories, had the ownership of mines and minerals, ownership of just everything and at their sole discretion, certain powers and shares were distributed among the family and well wishers.

Now, ikada system feudal and type of economic activity is capitalism..

Rendu kalipi keema chesi pai pina heading sadutav ani selvaiyaku vayya....nee language la chepalante feudal and capitalism madhyalo parallel draw cheyadam antaru..

Sovereignty ante chatak pav antav...Capitalism society la feudalism patukostav...kya comedy hai bhai..!!

 

ఓరి మీ పాసుగూల….

feudal system and capital systems are …socio political economic systems raa nayana….

wealth of the nation ని రాజు గారి డబ్బుతో చూడడం ఆపేసి….దేశ ఉత్పత్తితో  చూడడం మొదలెట్టారు….fundamentals తెలుసుకోండి….that difference  brings the change in political and social aspects as well…cheppa kada headlines kaakunda indepth saduvu…

 

capitalism telvadu kaani pedda capitalist ani self dabba okati….sadvalsindhi nuvve halwa firstu…

 

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, dasari4kntr said:

 

ఓరి మీ పాసుగూల….

feudal system and capital systems are …socio political economic systems raa nayana….

wealth of the nation ని రాజు గారి డబ్బుతో చూడడం ఆపేసి….దేశ ఉత్పత్తితో  చూడడం మొదలెట్టారు….fundamentals తెలుసుకోండి….that difference  brings the change in political and social aspects as well…cheppa kada headlines kaakunda indepth saduvu…

 

capitalism telvadu kaani pedda capitalist ani self dabba okati….sadvalsindhi nuvve halwa firstu…

 

Aak is Pak…Pak is Aak..so aak paak antav…!

Bagundi, chala bagundi. Nijanga bagundi…

Jara saduvu ekuvainattu anipistaleda ?

Sovereign ante entha konna antav ? Feudal antav..capitalism antav…ipudu a rendu okate antav…sovereign ante entire India na antav..

Saduvu nijangane jara ekuvainatu vundi…lol comedy.

[dasari4kntr]

3 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Aak is Pak…Pak is Aak..so aak paak antav…!

Bagundi, chala bagundi. Nijanga bagundi…

Jara saduvu ekuvainattu anipistaleda ?

Sovereign ante entha konna antav ? Feudal antav..capitalism antav…ipudu a rendu okate antav…sovereign ante entire India na antav..

Saduvu nijangane jara ekuvainatu vundi…lol comedy.

lol….ancient india లో capitalism ఉంది అన్నావ్…example అడిగితే topic ని divert చేసి sovereignty అనే సొల్లు చెప్తున్నావ్…? అయినా నేను ఎంతు కొన్నావ్ అన్నది “మా ఇష్టం”  అని మా అందిరిది కూడా నువ్వే చెప్పినందుకు…దాన్ని sovereignty కి link చేసావా lol halwa….subject అవసరంలేదు..just counter మీదే నీ  focus…lol lol..

sell and buy is a just a trade…thats not the whole capitalism….trade is just a fundamental block in capitalism… ఆ కాలంలో లో జరిగింది just trade మాత్రమే…. రాజు గారికి అరేబియా గుఱ్రాలు or రాణి గారికి సిల్క్ బట్టలు or అంతఃపురంలో తివాచీలు…etc washington dc లో asian museum  ఉంటది ఒకపాలి అలాంటివి చూసిరా..etc అవి కేవలం వ్యాపారం మాత్రమే పెట్టుబడిదారీతనం కాదు….known the difference between trade and capitalism…

అయినా ఆ రొజ్జుల్లో భారతదేశం లో వ్యాపారం ఒక వర్గం చేతిలో మాత్రమే ఉండేది…do you think that is free trade….కులవృత్తులు ఉన్న మన వ్యవస్ధలో capitalism కి చోటు ఎక్కడిది..?

one of the foundational principle for capitalism is “less government involvement”…do you think its there in Indian old feudalistic system…?

again wealth of the nation is not one’s (king) property in capitalism….its people produce and their wealth….

అసలు ఇప్పటికి అర్దం కాని విషయం నాకు… capitalism అని గొంతు చించుకునే వాళ్ళు liberalism ని ఎందుకు విమర్శస్తారో అర్దం కాదు….అలా విమర్శించే వాళ్ళకి అసలు capitalism అంటే ఏంటో ఒక్క పైసా కూడా తెల్వదు….

నన్ను సదువు సదువు అని నా పైన గొంతు సించుకునే బదులు…నువ్వేందుకు బుఱ్ఱ పెట్టి లోతుగా ఆలోచించవు…? నీ headlines మేధావితనం పక్కనపెట్టి కొంచెం సదువు… నాకు చెప్పే ముందు నువ్వు చెయ్యి ఆ పని…కావాలంటే నేను నీకు help చేస్తా ఏలా చదవాలో…

 

 

[dasari4kntr]

4 hours ago, Spartan said:

adi nuvvu nijamgane adugutunnava...? why mudslinging anedi...

thats how geo-political stake holders work...not to provide gap for other nations to come up..

ok lets agree on  humanitarian angle…still one thing i cant able to understand….why religious conditions though….? if there is no religious conditions it would have unanimous humanitarian reputation across the world…isnt it…?

[Android_Halwa]

36 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

lol….ancient india లో capitalism ఉంది అన్నావ్…example అడిగితే topic ని divert చేసి sovereignty అనే సొల్లు చెప్తున్నావ్…? అయినా నేను ఎంతు కొన్నావ్ అన్నది “మా ఇష్టం”  అని మా అందిరిది కూడా నువ్వే చెప్పినందుకు…దాన్ని sovereignty కి link చేసావా lol halwa….subject అవసరంలేదు..just counter మీదే నీ  focus…lol lol..

sell and buy is a just a trade…thats not the whole capitalism….trade is just a fundamental block in capitalism… ఆ కాలంలో లో జరిగింది just trade మాత్రమే…. రాజు గారికి అరేబియా గుఱ్రాలు or రాణి గారికి సిల్క్ బట్టలు or అంతఃపురంలో తివాచీలు…etc washington dc లో asian museum  ఉంటది ఒకపాలి అలాంటివి చూసిరా..etc అవి కేవలం వ్యాపారం మాత్రమే పెట్టుబడిదారీతనం కాదు….known the difference between trade and capitalism…

అయినా ఆ రొజ్జుల్లో భారతదేశం లో వ్యాపారం ఒక వర్గం చేతిలో మాత్రమే ఉండేది…do you think that is free trade….కులవృత్తులు ఉన్న మన వ్యవస్ధలో capitalism కి చోటు ఎక్కడిది..?

one of the foundational principle for capitalism is “less government involvement”…do you think its there in Indian old feudalistic system…?

again wealth of the nation is not one’s (king) property in capitalism….its people produce and their wealth….

అసలు ఇప్పటికి అర్దం కాని విషయం నాకు… capitalism అని గొంతు చించుకునే వాళ్ళు liberalism ని ఎందుకు విమర్శస్తారో అర్దం కాదు….అలా విమర్శించే వాళ్ళకి అసలు capitalism అంటే ఏంటో ఒక్క పైసా కూడా తెల్వదు….

నన్ను సదువు సదువు అని నా పైన గొంతు సించుకునే బదులు…నువ్వేందుకు బుఱ్ఱ పెట్టి లోతుగా ఆలోచించవు…? నీ headlines మేధావితనం పక్కనపెట్టి కొంచెం సదువు… నాకు చెప్పే ముందు నువ్వు చెయ్యి ఆ పని…కావాలంటే నేను నీకు help చేస్తా ఏలా చదవాలో…

 

 

Topic diversion modalu pettinde nuvvu, I have been responding to your responses ae thappa, dovert chese scope ae ledu…

Okasari elli tamari responses sadukunte telustadi…Champion of diversion tactics. 
 

#Sovereignity

[dasari4kntr]

5 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Topic diversion modalu pettinde nuvvu, I have been responding to your responses ae thappa, dovert chese scope ae ledu…

Okasari elli tamari responses sadukunte telustadi…Champion of diversion tactics. 
 

#Sovereignity

lol…antha pedd comment raaste..idaa nee response…

lol halwa…

nee believes ni facts laa cheppadame kaani andulo konchemina sense vuntada ante asalu vubdadhu…

malli hastags okati lol lol…

[Thokkalee]

7 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

i have a doubt….

tibetan buddist monks are eligible for CAA under religious persecution by china…?

Yes.. CAA applies to all religious minorities except Muslims.. 

CAA by itself is not a problem.. CAA with NRC becomes a big problem for minorities living in border states, as Muslims living in the country from decades will have to prove their citizenship.. 

[Jatka Bandi]

pakka desaala vishayalu meeku endukura US/UN?

Country based cap in GC discriminatory kaada?

Mee DEI concept fundamentally discriminatory kaada?

Back moosukuni koorchondi.. Saani kompalu nadupukune kodakallara

[Raven_Rayes]

8 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

Capitalism western product anukuntunava ? Lol…You are just brainwashed by communism.

Through out its history, India/Bharat has been a capitalistic society…finance, interest, trade, money, rich and poor have been part of India’s past and here you are, who thinks west developed the capitalism.

Socialists chale gaye, aapko peeche chod ke..

Democracy and freedom of speech, are implemented differently in India, Not a copy paste model from the west. Like said, soch-samajh ghatiya..

lmao. aside from the fact that being a 'capitalist' society is not a positive thing, India is not even that.

Indian firms that are on the top cannot maintain their market lead without significant help from state violence  (shooting of protestors 'for the sake of country progress') , and in that India may be currently classified as capitalist in the modern sense.

But given the rampant abuse of IPs (pharma sector) and its very low protection of even locally generated IP, it fails the basic test of being a 'capitalist' society. India used to be a feudal society (probably capitalist), and is now moving from an incompetent welfare state to an oligarchy. Its not even remotely capitalist in the modern sense now.

there were several successful small traders in India from ancient times to today, but that doesn't alone make India capitalist.

India needs a strong state controlling various sectors via ***** by acting as an intermediate, to be capitalist. There's a huge push for India to move in that direction, but it'll be blockaded by many regional power players too. India doesn't even have a decent law and order situation.

my guess is India breaks within my lifetime. My wish is the same too.

[Raven_Rayes]

5 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

nenu chaala clear ga vunna…thanks for this example…

uae in authoritarian country antaru kaani capitalistic country ani evadu pilavadu…endukante king can grab any individual property at any time….

capitalism has certain principles like individual ownership, free trade, less government involvement…etc

do you think UAE has all if these…

 

capitalism has no principles.. every country where govt sustains its big companies is capitalist. But India lacks some important features of a capitalist state, which is enforcement of intellectual property by the 'state'.

without government involvement, there is no capitalism. It'll be a free market.

[sarfaroshi2]

10 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

i have a doubt….

tibetan buddist monks are eligible for CAA under religious persecution by china…?

Yes

[Raven_Rayes]

6 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

పై పైన హెడ్డింగులు చదువుకుని exams పాసయ్యవా…? అలానే ఉంది నీ generalization …and subject depth…

wealth and ownership concepts exists in both capitalism and feudalism but with difference…

capitalism is formed after many political ideas by westerns like hobbs, locke and adam smith…and they propose individual ownership and individual property..etc

eventually they  started colonialism and eventual it leads to capitalism and globalization…etc

ఇండియాలో తరతరాలుగా ఉన్నది feudalism (భూస్వామ్య వ్యవస్ధ)….ఒక్క example ఇవ్వు ఇండియాలో ancient capitalism ఉందని…

 

feudalism is capitalism which used to derive power from feudal structures, and modern capitalism derives its power from the violence of the state.

without the state subsidizing a specific sector (for eg IT in India in the 90s, 00s), majority of dumbfcuk Indians in IT today wouldn't be making salaries 20x the median wage in India.

capitalism doesn't encourage competition or merit. Its a desperate power play by the state to keep itself relevant politically.

Thankfully Indian state is not that powerful (even under Modi) to make India capitalist.

[Raven_Rayes]

CAA is just an election gimmick for Modi's votebank. Intha discussion waste.

ofcourse other countries are going to condemn it for namesake. but literally no one gives a fcuk what India does. India is irrelevant. so chill.