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MASS LEADERS - NTR, YSR, Jagan


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8 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

Lol ,it contain random anecdotes from random people.

 

"editor for a prominent daily also focused on the 

difference in the scale of the corruption in the current government. 

 He said "We thought Naidu was bad, but that was child's play 

compared what is happening now"

What does it have to do with anything.

It's a wire sent by a diplomat to the US intelligence. More credible than any random gossips on here

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6 hours ago, Sizzler said:

There were strong leaders even back then. Chenna Reddy, VijayaBhaskar Reddy etc were very powerful leaders. Jalagam Vengal Rao very good administrator. 
 

Arjun Singh won MP elections twice. Indira immediately shifted him to Delhi. She played politics very well. Sonia ki adhi raledhu…. 

Soniamma was more politically cunning than people give her credit. Italian origin housewife of Rajiv Gandhi somehow ended up remote control ruling India from 2004-2014. She made Narasimha Rao into irrelevance by promoting his Telugu rivals.

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6 hours ago, Sizzler said:

There were strong leaders even back then. Chenna Reddy, VijayaBhaskar Reddy etc were very powerful leaders. Jalagam Vengal Rao very good administrator. 
 

Arjun Singh won MP elections twice. Indira immediately shifted him to Delhi. She played politics very well. Sonia ki adhi raledhu…. 

Chenna Reddy had good relations with Sandranna. Not sure how does Sandranna have good relations with TG Cheddys. 

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21 hours ago, Sizzler said:

NTR, YSR, and Jagan are the Mass leaders AP had witnessed. 

Jagan might win or lose 2029. But the Mass craze is unprecedented and still intact even today. 

CBN can just dream of coming anywhere close to them. 

 

In terms of records mass leaders antee only NTR and Jagan if we compare the percentage margins they won... not easy..

YSR winning streak is not that great..

In 2004 YSR Congress got 38.56% of votes and CBN TDP got 37.59%

Hardly 2% vote share difference...

In 2009 also YSR Congress got 36.56% vote share and CBN TDP got 28.12% and thats because Praja Rajyam vachhi votes divide chesesindi as he got 16% vote share.. else most likely TDP would have won..

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3 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

In terms of records mass leaders antee only NTR and Jagan if we compare the percentage margins they won... not easy..

YSR winning streak is not that great..

In 2004 YSR Congress got 38.56% of votes and CBN TDP got 37.59%

Hardly 2% vote share difference...

In 2009 also YSR Congress got 36.56% vote share and CBN TDP got 28.12% and thats because Praja Rajyam vachhi votes divide chesesindi as he got 16% vote share.. else most likely TDP would have won..

50%+ share is unprecedented and doubt if anyone can replicate what Jagan has achieved in 2019. 

2004 - Congress had alliance with TRS, CPI/M and vote share will obviously be less.
 

This might surprise you, TDP won less than 23 seats in Coastal/Rayalaseema combined in 2004. I will double check the number. 
 

Everyone thinks Chiranjeevi hurt TDP alone. Kapu were traditional vote bank of Congress and Congress took the hit more. YSR’s victory in 2009 was a foregone conclusion because of the great initiatives. 

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In 2004 , it was upa having cong , trs , cpi , cpm . It was a whitewash of tg with only 10 seats more or less to tdp . In ap , 3/4 th won by cong and communists . The aliance got 49 percent vote . Congress contested only 234 but won 185 . Trs got 26 , cpm 9 and cpi 6 . The alliance swept with 77 percent seats . Tdp won 37 odd in seemandhras .

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5 minutes ago, vincent said:

In 2004 , it was upa having cong , trs , cpi , cpm . It was a whitewash of tg with only 10 seats more or less to tdp . In ap , 3/4 th won by cong and communists . The aliance got 49 percent vote . Congress contested only 234 but won 185 . Trs got 26 , cpm 9 and cpi 6 . The alliance swept with 77 percent seats . Tdp won 37 odd in seemandhras .

I thought it was less than 23 in SeemAndhra… I will double check on this. 

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50 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

 YSR’s victory in 2009 was a foregone conclusion because of the great initiatives. 

Maybe but his vote share got decreased in 2009 and he won 156 out of 294 so less by 29 seats from 2004 ... 

2009 honest gaa cheppali antee Praja Rajyam played spoiled sport and divided votes else TDP + TRS should have won 

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In 2009 , inc was alone and mahakutami had 4 parties . Still , inc was the winner . Yes , it was an incremental verdict but inc won clear majority nonetheless . The 2004 sweep of 226 was a definitive whitewash     . Thete cannot be a one on one relation of vote to seats , region wise breakup and margins of victor matters in a first past the post system . Telangana 2014 - trs wins 63 with just 33 percent vote , but that was concentrated in north telangana , better conversion rate   .

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