Elon Musk vs Mark Zuckerberg on AI

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https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/25/elon-musk-mark-zuckerberg-artificial-intelligence/

Elon Musk says Mark Zuckerberg’s understanding of the future of AI is ‘limited’

It’s fascinating to imagine the conversations that happen behind closed doors between the world’s richest and most powerful, so when they occur in the open — and over topics that impact the future of the world — it’s hard to do anything but grab the popcorn and watch intensely.

Billionaire business icon Elon Musk — of Tesla, SpaceX and more fame — just fired back at Mark Zuckerberg over his grasp of the future of AI, claiming that the Facebook CEO’s “understanding of the subject is limited.”

Ouch… but Musk himself has been accused of knowing little about AI, from Rodney Brooks, the founding director of MIT’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Lab. Brooks is also the cofounder of both iRobot and Rethink Robotics.

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I've talked to Mark about this. His understanding of the subject is limited.

3:07 AM - 25 Jul 2017

 

He was responding to comments made by Zuckerberg this weekend — he chatted to fans on a Facebook live stream for an hour and a half while grilling meat on his BBQ, no less. The social network supremo had some strong words for AI pessimists (realists?) who believe and argue that care and regulation is needed to safeguard the future of our race before AI becomes mainstream.

Musk is fairly outspoken on this topic. While a proponent of tech and artificial intelligence in particular, he recently called its progress the “biggest risk we face as a civilisation.”

 

“AI is a rare case where we need to be proactive in regulation instead of reactive because if we’re reactive in AI regulation it’s too late,” he said at a meeting of U.S. governors this year.

AI is increasingly a critical part of the Facebook business, while Zuckerberg himself has tinkered with the tech to develop his own home automation system, so perhaps naturally he feels differently.

“I think people who are naysayers and try to drum up these doomsday scenarios — I just, I don’t understand it. It’s really negative and in some ways I actually think it is pretty irresponsible,” he said, according to Silicon Valley Business Journal.

The publication evidently tuned in for the full 90-minute grill-fest, alongside over four million others.

AI is a multi-faceted and complicated subject. And not one that 140-character tweets or back-garden live streams are best suited for explaining. This back-and-forth between two of the world’s most influential figures in business will at least help bring this topic to the fore, and encourage deeper discussions around the future of AI.

Zuckerberg and Musk been involved in drama before. Last year, a Facebook satellite was destroyed when the SpaceX rocket carrying it exploded on launch in Florida. The satellite was part of Facebook’s Internet.org global connectivity program.

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[Batman_fan]

Elon Musk is not afraid to send people to other planets but afraid of AI? I think he is 20-25 years ahead in the game. 

There is long way to go before we worry about AI. 

[siru]

19 minutes ago, Batman_fan said:

Elon Musk is not afraid to send people to other planets but afraid of AI? I think he is 20-25 years ahead in the game. 

There is long way to go before we worry about AI. 

i have to side with Mark on this.

Mark has hands on understanding of AI and involved in coding AI programs. Idont think Musk can code AI programs.

[lazybugger]

12 minutes ago, siru said:

i have to side with Mark on this.

Mark has hands on understanding of AI and involved in coding AI programs. Idont think Musk can code AI programs.

Musk is Iron Man redux. He can learn to write AI training algos in a single night if he wants to.

 

[sattipandu]

9 minutes ago, siru said:

i have to side with Mark on this.

Mark has hands on understanding of AI and involved in coding AI programs. Idont think Musk can code AI programs.

musk cant code , ok i'll give you that

but the way Musk looks at a problem is fundamentally wayy wayyy different from anyone.

I will side with Musk on this, AI is here to stay but wont be mature enough for another 30 yrs to carve a niche in the society without deposing human jobs 

[lazybugger]

36 minutes ago, Batman_fan said:

Elon Musk is not afraid to send people to other planets but afraid of AI? I think he is 20-25 years ahead in the game. 

There is long way to go before we worry about AI. 

Musk talks like he's still in his college dorm room, with his nerdy friends. That's his USP.

[lazybugger]

1 minute ago, sattipandu said:

musk cant code , ok i'll give you that

but the way Musk looks at a problem is fundamentally wayy wayyy different from anyone.

I will side with Musk on this, AI is here to stay but wont be mature enough for another 30 yrs to carve a niche in the society without deposing human jobs 

yeah sure. Its not the engineers who solve the problems. Not the scientists who initially identify a problem and define it.

its the salesman, with an aptitude (amazing I might add) for science, who can solve any problem by just fundamentally looking at it differently. thanks.

[lazybugger]

7 minutes ago, sattipandu said:

musk cant code , ok i'll give you that

but the way Musk looks at a problem is fundamentally wayy wayyy different from anyone.

I will side with Musk on this, AI is here to stay but wont be mature enough for another 30 yrs to carve a niche in the society without deposing human jobs 

AI will fcuk with human society.

But it won't be Musk or Google or Mark who'll pioneer it. Anyone who's warning of AI 'danger' is only trying to control that research by defining its boundaries.

[sattipandu]

2 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

yeah sure. Its not the engineers who solve the problems. Not the scientists who initially identify a problem and define it.

its the salesman, with an aptitude (amazing I might add) for science, who can solve any problem by just fundamentally looking at it differently. thanks.

in Elon's case yes

[lazybugger]

Just now, sattipandu said:

in Elon's case yes

it must be true, because you say so. thanks.

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Musk wannabe ki kaaaaalinatlu undhi...

[sattipandu]

1 minute ago, lazybugger said:

it must be true, because you say so. thanks.

pls dont say thanks

[lazybugger]

Its nice to see all these heavyweights getting nervous that someone else will eat their lunch on AI.

[Batman_fan]

6 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

Its nice to see all these heavyweights getting nervous that someone else will eat their lunch on AI.

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