krldr871 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=Saamy link=topic=83911.msg899121#msg899121 date=1280251012]E janamalo manamu mukthi margamulo vellakunda karmanu penchuthu pothe malli a janthu janmalake velthamu tirigi a chakramlo padi enno narakalu chustamu....Paramatmudu: Manishi karma jeevi kada (ante manamu chesina karma maname anubhavinchali) mari devudu emi chestadu....e janmalo niku ichina e banditho(vehicle) sariga mukthi margamulo velthe...aayna vache janamalo inka vegamuga mukthi pondutaki manchi bandi istadu...ante manamu, mana paristhitulu todpadetatu...ni prayatnaniki fuel istadu ani...Vasanalu(Smells): manishi enno janmalalo enno jantuvuluga tirugutha enno vasanulu tana soul tho techukuntadu...manamu vintu vuntamu kukka budhi ilanti words...a vasanalatho mana alavatlu, alochanalu vuntayi...avi teluskoni marchukovali...Matamu(religion): Mukthi pondataniki enno routes ave matalu..kani destination andariki okate...no route is faster or easier...anta mana prayatnamlone vuntundhi....Fear: Manamu kalalo vunapudu chuttu chusthu idhi anta nijame anipistundhi...nidra lechi chusthe adhi kala(unreal)...e life kuda ante..pranam poyaka it's all unreal..e body manamu veskoni shirt lantidhi..ivala okati inko janmalo inkokati....idhe shaswatam kani appudu inka fear deniki...adhe realize avamantunaru Ramana maharshi....[/quote]i really dnt knw anything karma..kani ippudu quote chesinadi chadivite naku asalu ekkadu ilantivi..i mean i cannot convince myself tht this kind of thing exists..ramana maharshi who am i ante it makes so much sense..emo idhi adhi okatenemo but certainly not the same interpretation sHa_high5ing sHa_high5ing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keko__keka Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 neeku enduko ilanti topics ante......connect kavu sCo_hmmthink sCo_hmmthink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saamy Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=krldr871 link=topic=83911.msg899207#msg899207 date=1280253580]i really dnt knw anything karma..kani ippudu quote chesinadi chadivite naku asalu ekkadu ilantivi..i mean i cannot convince myself tht this kind of thing exists..ramana maharshi who am i ante it makes so much sense..emo idhi adhi okatenemo but certainly not the same interpretation sHa_high5ing sHa_high5ing[/quote]Nenu chepindhi high level story of what it is...Who am I anedhi koncham details loki vellali and each person has a way to know ourself who am I ani..andaru confuse avutaru ani nenu high level lo chepanu vishayanni...To the point if this exists, simple logic, when u are good to a frnn manchiga vuntundhi..wen u are bad.. things become bad..thats wat is karma....you reap wat u sow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krldr871 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=Saamy link=topic=83911.msg899223#msg899223 date=1280254347]Nenu chepindhi high level story of what it is...Who am I anedhi koncham details loki vellali and each person has a way to know ourself who am I ani..andaru confuse avutaru ani nenu high level lo chepanu vishayanni...To the point if this exists, simple logic, when u are good to a frnn manchiga vuntundhi..wen u are bad.. things become bad..thats wat is karma....you reap wat u sow...[/quote]ok..but my point is how r they related..is it not an illusion in the mind that triggers emotions like feeling good or bad..because we acknwoledge guilt and think we committed a sin..we relate to things in order to balance out the fear..oka bad incident jarigite we relate to it and say na karma idhi..because we always connect the dots looking backwards..oka sin commit chesi ventane manchi jarigite the theory does not hold..so we would wait till some thing bad happens and then connect it with this one right..idhi kaada karma ante sSc_hiding2 sSc_hiding2 i'm not tryng to challenge ur thinking..jus tryng to understand wht i really understand sHa_high5ing sHa_high5ing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bhrami Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=krldr871 link=topic=83911.msg899199#msg899199 date=1280253170]I am my identity anapudu adantha na gurinche kadha..so chepina neku ardham avvadu..because we r in two different worlds..ne world ne mind lo undi..na world na mind lo undi..nuvvu na world lo ki thongi chustene ne world lo tensions vachevi..so anduke nene na identity..ela undi na logic :5_2_108: :5_2_108: :5_2_108:[/quote]Conpuseeee sehtava *(*(* I(*& *7*^ *7*^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saamy Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=krldr871 link=topic=83911.msg899268#msg899268 date=1280255988]ok..but my point is how r they related..is it not an illusion in the mind that triggers emotions like feeling good or bad..because we acknwoledge guilt and think we committed a sin..we relate to things in order to balance out the fear..oka bad incident jarigite we relate to it and say na karma idhi..because we always connect the dots looking backwards..oka sin commit chesi ventane manchi jarigite the theory does not hold..so we would wait till some thing bad happens and then connect it with this one right..idhi kaada karma ante sSc_hiding2 sSc_hiding2 i'm not tryng to challenge ur thinking..jus tryng to understand wht i really understand sHa_high5ing sHa_high5ing[/quote]It's not an illusion that triggers...we can see or feel what other person feels...manamu pakka vallani badha pettananta varaku manchidhe...inka karma anedhi epudu ayna elaga ayna face cheyavachu...not same day or may be on same day coz its related to many things...my point is you will reap it one day or other..adhi epudu anedhi chepalemu manamu....soil lo seed vestamu kani adhi season vachinapude perugutundhi...alane idhi kuda...na point enti ante e vishaya lokamlo padi asalu manamu mukthi ane alochanaki dooram avutunamu....adhi goal ga pettukoni potunte ivanni slowga clear avutayi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krldr871 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=Saamy link=topic=83911.msg899300#msg899300 date=1280257984]It's not an illusion that triggers...we can see or feel what other person feels...manamu pakka vallani badha pettananta varaku manchidhe...inka karma anedhi epudu ayna elaga ayna face cheyavachu...not same day or may be on same day coz its related to many things...my point is you will reap it one day or other..adhi epudu anedhi chepalemu manamu....soil lo seed vestamu kani adhi season vachinapude perugutundhi...alane idhi kuda...na point enti ante e vishaya lokamlo padi asalu manamu mukthi ane alochanaki dooram avutunamu....adhi goal ga pettukoni potunte ivanni slowga clear avutayi....[/quote]i'm not really sure..i believe no one can ever truly knw abt other person..i mean its a mental picture that we have abt others and need not necessarily be true..and hurt cheyadam vere vallani anedhi person to person maarutu untadi..for example neku offensive ga anipinchedi naku anipinchakapote..nuvvu nannu hurt chesavani nuvvu feel avvadam lo meaning ledu kadha..because nenu hurt avaledu asalu first place lo..appudu nuvvu guilty ga feel avadam lo meaning undadu..and yet it happens because of our mind..manaki edi offensive ga anipistundo danithone manam relate avthaam without realizing that the other person may have different sensibilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saamy Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=krldr871 link=topic=83911.msg899319#msg899319 date=1280258657]i'm not really sure..i believe no one can ever truly knw abt other person..i mean its a mental picture that we have abt others and need not necessarily be true..and hurt cheyadam vere vallani anedhi person to person maarutu untadi..for example neku offensive ga anipinchedi naku anipinchakapote..nuvvu nannu hurt chesavani nuvvu feel avvadam lo meaning ledu kadha..because nenu hurt avaledu asalu first place lo..appudu nuvvu guilty ga feel avadam lo meaning undadu..and yet it happens because of our mind..manaki edi offensive ga anipistundo danithone manam relate avthaam without realizing that the other person may have different sensibilities[/quote]Nenu cheppedhi general sense wat u feel when u see the other person...most of the times you will understand other persons reactions...smile/sorrow/pity/dull/happy/joy ilaaga... unless he hides them on purpose...dani gurinche nenu chepedhi...manamu manchiga matladuthu vunte offend avaru kada...okavela tappuga anukuna..telisinapudu cheptamu ila chepanu ani...manaki teliyani vatiki cheyagaligedhi emi ledhu...na drustilo intention correctga vunte chalu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krldr871 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [quote author=Saamy link=topic=83911.msg899342#msg899342 date=1280259398]Nenu cheppedhi general sense wat u feel when u see the other person...most of the times you will understand other persons reactions...smile/sorrow/pity/dull/happy/joy ilaaga... unless he hides them on purpose...dani gurinche nenu chepedhi...manamu manchiga matladuthu vunte offend avaru kada...okavela tappuga anukuna..telisinapudu cheptamu ila chepanu ani...manaki teliyani vatiki cheyagaligedhi emi ledhu...na drustilo intention correctga vunte chalu...[/quote] sHa_high5ing sHa_high5ing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajesh550 Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 [color=black][size=14pt]Neither the holy waters of pilgrimage nor the images of gods made of earth and stone can stand comparison with the benign look of the Sage. These purify one only after countless days of grace, but no sooner does the Sage bestow his gracious glance than he purifies one. - Sanskrit teaching[/size][/color]Koncham detail gaa chepamantey: The look has a purifying effect. Purification cannot be visualized. Just as a piece of coal takes a long time to ignite and a piece of charcoal a shorter time, while a heap of gunpowder is ignited instantaneously, so it is with different types of people coming in contact with a Mahatma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rajesh550 Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 [size=24pt] [color=red]Who Am I? (Nan Yar?)[/color][/size] [size=18pt] The Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi[/size][color=red][size=12pt]Introduction: [/size][/color]“Who am I?” is the title given to a set of questions and answers bearing on Self-enquiry. Thequestions were put to Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi by one Sri M. Sivaprakasam Pillai aboutthe year 1902. Sri Pillai, a graduate in Philosophy, was at the time employed in the RevenueDepartment of the South Arcot Collectorate. During his visit to Tiruvannamalai in 1902 on officialwork, he went to Virupaksha Cave on Arunachala Hill and met the Master there. He sought fromhim spiritual guidance, and solicited answers to questions relating to Self-enquiry. As Bhagavanwas not talking then, not because of any vow he had taken, but because he did not have theinclination to talk, he answered the questions put to him by gestures, and when these were notunderstood, by writing. As recollected and recorded by Sri Sivaprakasam Pillai, there werefourteen questions with answers to them given by Bhagavan. This record was first published bySri Pillai in 1923, along with a couple of poems composed by himself relating how Bhagavan’sgrace operated in his case by dispelling his doubts and by saving him from a crisis in life. ‘Whoam I?’ has been published several times subsequently. We find thirty questions and answers insome editions and twenty-eight in others. There is also another published version in which thequestions are not given, and the teachings are rearranged in the form of an essay. The extantEnglish translation is of this essay. The present rendering is of the text in the form of twenty-eightquestions and answers.Along with Vicharasangraham (Self-Enquiry), Nan Yar (Who am I?) constitutes the first set ofinstructions in the Master’s own words. These two are the only prosepieces among Bhagavan’sWorks. They clearly set forth the central teaching that the direct path to liberation is Self-enquiry.The particular mode in which the enquiry is to be made is lucidly set forth in Nan Yar. The mindconsists of thoughts. The ‘I’ thought is the first to arise in the mind. When the enquiry ‘ Who am I?’is persistently pursued, all other thoughts get destroyed, and finally the ‘I’ thought itself vanishesleaving the supreme non-dual Self alone. The false identification of the Self with the phenomenaof non-self such as the body and mind thus ends, and there is illumination, Sakshatkara. The processof enquiry of course, is not an easy one. As one enquires ‘Who am I?’, other thoughts will arise;but as these arise, one should not yield to them by following them , on the contrary, one should ask‘To whom do they arise ?’ In order to do this, one has to be extremely vigilant. Through constantenquiry one should make the mind stay in its source, without allowing it to wander away and getlost in the mazes of thought created by itself. All other disciplines such as breath-control andmeditation on the forms of God should be regarded as auxiliary practices. They are useful in so faras they help the mind to become quiescent and one-pointed.For the mind that has gained skill in concentration, Self-enquiry becomes comparatively easy. It is byceaseless enquiry that the thoughts are destroyed and the Self realized - the plenary Reality in whichthere is not even the ‘I’ thought, the experience which is referred to as “Silence”.This, in substance, is Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi’s teaching in Nan Yar (Who am I?).University of Madras - June 30, 1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajesh550 Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 As all living beings desire to be happy always, without misery, as in the case of everyone thereis observed supreme love for one’s self, and as happiness alone is the cause for love, in order togain that happiness which is one’s nature and which is experienced in the state of deep sleepwhere there is no mind, one should know one’s self. For that, the path of knowledge, the inquiryof the form “Who am I?”, is the principal means.[color=red][size=14pt]1. Who am I ?[/size][/color]The gross body which is composed of the seven humours (dhatus), I am not; the five cognitivesense organs, viz. the senses of hearing, touch, sight, taste, and smell, which apprehend theirrespective objects, viz. sound, touch, colour, taste, and odour, I am not; the five cognitive senseorgans,viz. the organs of speech, locomotion, grasping, excretion, and procreation, which have astheir respective functions speaking, moving, grasping, excreting, and enjoying, I am not; the fivevital airs, prana, etc., which perform respectively the five functions of in-breathing, etc., I am not;even the mind which thinks, I am not; the nescience too, which is endowed only with the residualimpressions of objects, and in which there are no objects and no functioning’s, I am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajesh550 Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 [color=red][size=14pt]2. If I am none of these, then who am I?[/size][/color]After negating all of the above-mentioned as ‘not this’, ‘not this’, that Awareness which aloneremains - that I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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