Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, crashnburn said: who cares about the billion fools. its the both of us arguing. you are yet to make a moral case for occupying kashmir. if I am not under the threat of being jailed, I can celebrate killing of army jawans too, and claim that its moral. and then you point to china to show how other sovereign nations act, when in fact, chinese actions have not stopped taiwan, HK to be world class countries. India's actions have absolutely devastated Kashmir on the other hand. Taiwan is not a country recognized by the United Nations, Hongkong is not even a country. Quote
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cation said: The entitlement comes from believing that I have a nation that I belong to, which unfortunately you don't have. there's nothing unfortunate, about not having a nation. see, I think clearly and you rant like a moron about nation, and push moral relativity, but also squeamish when the same is applied to your nation. you are full of contradictions. I'm not. Quote
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, crashnburn said: kashmir is not part of India, cupcake. the article of accession clearly states that kashmir is not part of India until kashmir people have agreed to it. king of J&K is an asshole who was facing a domestic revolt after his genocide of muslims in Jammu cupcake. Also there was an advancing army from the western side. so the dickhead wrote it off. but its not his property to write off, honey. Even Hyderabad nawab wrote off hyd to Pak. is it acceptable? lol. Just like Pakistan wrote off CPEC. What's your point? What are you trying to say? Quote
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Cation said: Taiwan is not a country recognized by the United Nations, Hongkong is not even a country. They don't have a million chinese soldiers guarding their regions, like India does. Quote
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, crashnburn said: there's nothing unfortunate, about not having a nation. see, I think clearly and you rant like a moron about nation, and push moral relativity, but also squeamish when the same is applied to your nation. you are full of contradictions. I'm not. I don't contradict myself, I told you want I thought about the situation. I am not trying to convince you, I am just stating my opinion. Quote
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, Cation said: Just like Pakistan wrote off CPEC. What's your point? What are you trying to say? that you are talking out of arse, and should just shut up and fcuk off. where does CPEC come in this discussion? lol. you are flustered. Quote
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, crashnburn said: They don't have a million chinese soldiers guarding their regions, like India does. Because Hongkong is still an autonomous region like Kashmir was. Wait until the 50 years period is over, when Hongkong will no longer be autonomous to see how many armed personal will be there. Quote
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, crashnburn said: that you are talking out of arse, and should just shut up and fcuk off. where does CPEC come in this discussion? lol. you are flustered. I thought you're giving out places you know because you know nothing about history. Kashmir happened in the past, CPEC is happening now. Wait until Pakistan revolts against CPEC. Quote
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, Cation said: I don't contradict myself, I told you want I thought about the situation. I am not trying to convince you, I am just stating my opinion. you don't have to convince me. because your govt will do that for you. that's what gives you your smugness. not the strength of your argument. I've clearly stated that your opinion is absolute trash. its either factually wrong, or when you have your facts right, your conclusion is illogical. Quote
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Cation said: Because Hongkong is still an autonomous region like Kashmir was. Wait until the 50 years period is over, when Hongkong will no longer be autonomous to see how many armed personal will be there. this is the most disingenuous claim in this entire exchange. China can right now militarize HK, and there's not a single nation in this world that would condemn it in any serious way. just like India has gotten away with murder in kashmir. but china is not doing it, because its not useful for them yet. India is doing it, because India is full of fools who are more emotional than calculative. Quote
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, crashnburn said: you don't have to convince me. because your govt will do that for you. that's what gives you your smugness. not the strength of your argument. I've clearly stated that your opinion is absolute trash. its either factually wrong, or when you have your facts right, your conclusion is illogical. If you want to believe that it's wrong, I am not going to repeat myself. Tell me which argument is factually wrong, don't make vague statements. Quote
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, crashnburn said: this is the most disingenuous claim in this entire exchange. China can right now militarize HK, and there's not a single nation in this world that would condemn it in any serious way. just like India has gotten away with murder in kashmir. but china is not doing it, because its not useful for them yet. India is doing it, because India is full of fools who are more emotional than calculative. Well because the 50 years period is not over yet. Hongkong is given the right to be autonomous for 50 years. Quote
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cation said: I thought you're giving out places you know because you know nothing about history. what exactly did I get wrong about Taiwan? I only used what you yourself claimed in your illogical conclusion about how china is undemocratic. ofcourse you cleverly left out the part that it was Taiwanese govt that ran a dictatorial govt in Taiwan, until it liberalized, unlike kashmir where it is the Indian govt that runs the army regime. Quote
crashnburn Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Cation said: If you want to believe that it's wrong, I am not going to repeat myself. Tell me which argument is factually wrong, don't make vague statements. I've told you 100 times already. Quote
Cation Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, crashnburn said: what exactly did I get wrong about Taiwan? I only used what you yourself claimed in your illogical conclusion about how china is undemocratic. ofcourse you cleverly left out the part that it was Taiwanese govt that ran a dictatorial govt in Taiwan, until it liberalized, unlike kashmir where it is the Indian govt that runs the army regime. Taiwan is a democracy unlike people's republic of China. It seems like you're factually wrong. Quote
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