origin of "ANDHRA" as per hindhu mythology...

[dasari4kntr]

i read about this...in some telugu book...and did some internet research to verify...

 

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According to Telugu folklore, meaning of word "Andhra" is believed to be "Tribe". Maharshi Vishwamitra curses his sons to go to south and lead a tribal life. Those tribes are believed to be "Andhra". So, Andhraites are believed to be descendants of sage Vishwamitra.

This curse is described in Balakanda of Valmiki Ramayana.

श्व मांस भोजिनः सर्वे वासिष्ठा इव जातिषु |
पूर्णम् वर्ष सहस्रम् तु पृथिव्याम् अनुवत्स्यथ || १-६२-१७

" 'You all will be whirling around the earth totally for a thousand years taking birth in the race that subsists on dog's meat, like the sons of Vashishta.' Thus Vishvamitra cursed his sons. [1-62-17]

But here Vishwamitra says to whirl around the earth. But this book mentions it differently.

The compassionate Vishwamitra beckoned his sons and asked one of them to sacrifice his life and replace this boy. What had gotten into their father? How could their father be so foolish and consider giving up one his own sons to save someone else's life? Vishwamitra's sons refused to sacrifice their lives for their cousin's. The great sage realized that his boys did not know that a sage had to dedicate his life to serve others. And here they were — all looking to live for themselves rather than being happy for being offered a chance to serve others through their own lives. Disappointed, Vishwamitra cursed his unworthy sons to a life of selfishness in tribal communities.

There's another variant of the legend where Vishwamitra curses his sons to go "ANDHA" (blind) and live a life of tribals to the south of Vindhyas and with time Andha became "Andhra".

 

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Aitareya Brahmana (7.13-18) describe the incident of Sage Vishwamitra cursing his sons. The story goes as follows:

Once upon a time there was a Brahmana named Ajigarta who had given his son Sunahsepa for sacrifice to king Harishchandra. At the time of sacrifice Sunahsepa praised gods including Prajapati, Agni, Varuna, Visve Devas, Indra etc and thus the gods saved his life. Sage Vishwamitra was also present there and he has accepted Sunahsepa as his son. Sage Vishwamitra had also hundred sons out of which first fifty sons doesn't accept Sunahsepa and hence cursed while the later fifty sons accepted Sunahsepa as their brother.

This Risi Visvamitra had a hundred sons, fifty of them were older than Madhuchhandas, and fifty were younger than he. The older ones were not pleased with (the installation of Sunahsepa to the primogeniture). VisvAmitra then pronounced against them the curse, " You shall have the lowest castes for your descendants." Therefore are many of the most degraded classes of men, the rabble for the most part, such as the Andhras, Pundras, Sabaras, Palindas, and Mutibas, descendants of Visvamitra. But Madhuchhandas, with the fifty younger sons, said, " What our father approves of, by that we abide ; we all accord to thee (Sunahsepa) the first rank, and we will come after thee ! " Visvamitra, (leligated 'at this answer) then praised these sons with the following verses :

" Ye my sons will have abundance of cattle and children, for you have made me rich in children by consenting to my wish."

Srimada Bhagavatam 9.16 also narrates this story.

SB 9.16.29 — O King Parīkṣit, Viśvāmitra had 101 sons, of whom the middle one was known as Madhucchandā. In relation to him, all the other sons were celebrated as the Madhucchandās.

SB 9.16.30 — Viśvāmitra accepted the son of Ajīgarta known as Śunaḥśepha, who was born in the Bhṛgu dynasty and was also known as Devarāta, as one of his own sons. Viśvāmitra ordered his other sons to accept Śunaḥśepha as their eldest brother.

SB 9.16.31 — Śunaḥśepha’s father sold Śunaḥśepha to be sacrificed as a man-animal in the yajña of King Hariścandra. When Śunaḥśepha was brought into the sacrificial arena, he prayed to the demigods for release and was released by their mercy.

SB 9.16.32 — Although Śunaḥśepha was born in the Bhārgava dynasty, he was greatly advanced in spiritual life, and therefore the demigods involved in the sacrifice protected him. Consequently he was also celebrated as the descendant of Gādhi named Devarāta.

SB 9.16.33 — When requested by their father to accept Śunaḥśepha as the eldest son, the elder fifty of the Madhucchandās, the sons of Viśvāmitra, did not agree. Therefore Viśvāmitra, being angry, cursed them. “May all of you bad sons become mlecchas,” he said, “being opposed to the principles of Vedic culture.”

SB 9.16.34 — When the elder Madhucchandās were cursed, the younger fifty, along with Madhucchandā himself, approached their father and agreed to accept his proposal. “Dear father,” they said, “we shall abide by whatever arrangement you like.”

SB 9.16.35 — Thus the younger Madhucchandās accepted Śunaḥśepha as their eldest brother and told him, “We shall follow your orders.” Viśvāmitra then said to his obedient sons, “Because you have accepted Śunaḥśepha as your eldest brother, I am very satisfied. By accepting my order, you have made me a father of worthy sons, and therefore I bless all of you to become the fathers of sons also.”

[DummyVariable]

Thiduthunnara, poguduthunnara not understanding 

[jawaani_jaaneman]

I thought Andhras came into existence from mid 1950’s..

Danikante mundu charitra la peddaga chepinattu dakalalu emi levu...chepukodagga anamata...

 

[Lonelyloner]

AAAH Curses of sage aa.

nenu jump....

[dasari4kntr]

29 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Thiduthunnara, poguduthunnara not understanding 

negative way lone chepparu...

but chepparu...

i came to know about this...in "viswadarshanam" telugu book...later confirmed by googling it...

 

[dasari4kntr]

11 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said:

I thought Andhras came into existence from mid 1950’s..

Danikante mundu charitra la peddaga chepinattu dakalalu emi levu...chepukodagga anamata...

 

because may be you are seeing andhra in telenagana lenses...so you are noticing only 1950...

but before that...

appudeppudo....raasina...andhra mahabaaratham (nannaya, tikkana, errapragada...)

recentgaa andhra patrikaa (100 years back)...etc

lantivi konni examples vunnai...

[futureofandhra]

6 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

because may be you are seeing andhra in telenagana lenses...so you are noticing only 1950...

but before that...

appudeppudo....raasina...andhra mahabaaratham (nannaya, tikkana, errapragada...)

recentgaa andhra patrikaa (100 years back)...etc

lantivi konni examples vunnai...

anna ki nizamodu matramey gurthuku vastadu ley

[betapilli]

Good thread

[jawaani_jaaneman]

2 hours ago, futureofandhra said:

anna ki nizamodu matramey gurthuku vastadu ley

Just like you guys..Nizam thappa inkemi gurtukuradu

[JustChill_Mama]

2 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

because may be you are seeing andhra in telenagana lenses...so you are noticing only 1950...

but before that...

appudeppudo....raasina...andhra mahabaaratham (nannaya, tikkana, errapragada...)

recentgaa andhra patrikaa (100 years back)...etc

lantivi konni examples vunnai...

Nannayya andhra mahabharatham & bhagavatham kuda 1000 years old anthe. Vallu actual ga vyasudu rasina dhanni Telugeekarincharu. Tharvatha dhaniki “andhra” maha bharatham ani manavallu tag vesaremo mari . Rasetapudu valla intention ayithe Sanskrit lo kakunda Telugu lo undali ani 

[futureofandhra]

17 minutes ago, jawaani_jaaneman said:

Just like you guys..Nizam thappa inkemi gurtukuradu

oh  we remember sardar jamalapuram kesava rao an inspiration to fight against razakars

abdul kalam lanti scientists  and the list goes on 

[JustChill_Mama]

Naku telisi andhra word is came from lord vishnu. Vishnu Murthy bhumi pai 5 trees lo untadu. Andhulo okati andhra. 

satavahanas 3rd century lo srikakula maha vishnu temple or andhra vishnu temple ani kattaru. Movie kuda vocchindhi . 
 

“sri maha vishnuve srikakulandhrudai sreekaramunu chutte nee charithaki” - sirivennela

ee lines nunchi ardham ayyedhi entante andhrula charithra started from 3rd century . Kani full story teliyadhu.

sastry garu konchem research chese rastharu kabatti Nenu nammuthanu

[futureofandhra]

1 minute ago, JustChill_Mama said:

Naku telisi andhra word is came from lord vishnu. Vishnu Murthy bhumi pai 5 trees lo untadu. Andhulo okati andhra. 

satavahanas 3rd century lo srikakula maha vishnu temple or andhra vishnu temple ani kattaru. Movie kuda vocchindhi . 
 

“sri maha vishnuve srikakulandhrudai sreekaramunu chutte nee charithaki” - sirivennela

ee lines nunchi ardham ayyedhi entante andhrula charithra started from 3rd century . Kani full story teliyadhu.

sastry garu konchem research chese rastharu kabatti Nenu nammuthanu

srikakulandhra mahavishnukadha movie kooda vundhi

[JustChill_Mama]

2 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

oh  we remember sardar jamalapuram kesava rao an inspiration to fight against razakars

abdul kalam lanti scientists  and the list goes on 

Ipudu vallantha endhuku voccharu ? 
aa jamalapuram kanna mundhe chakali ailamma fought against to nizams... komaram bheem kuda ... chala mandhi unnaru 

[JustChill_Mama]

Just now, futureofandhra said:

srikakulandhra mahavishnukadha movie kooda vundhi

Adhe . I did not see that movie . Shathavahana kings first capital Karim nagar district loni elugandhula

mana ficchi fook krish gadu adhi kuda amaravathi ani chupettadu