argadorn Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, hyperbole said: Hope this zonal system pay dividends, KCR was adamant and as the bill was in the works for 6 years or more. He clearly didn’t want any leakage of jobs or people from urban areas totally dominate rural poor job seekers Old zonal system In the old zonal system, for instance if 20 posts were notified in Adilabad district for recruitment under any category, then candidates from Nirmal and Mancherial would bag majority of the posts while the youth in the remote areas of the district were left out. They could not compete with candidates in areas with better infrastructure and exposure. Following reorganisation of districts from erstwhile 10 into 31, the 20 posts would now be distributed to all the districts carved out of Adilabad equally New system The new zonal system ensures that even higher-level posts would go to local people of Telangana and not to outsiders. In the earlier zonal system, for instance MPDO posts were under Group I and placed under State cadre. As recruitment was done at the State level, outsiders to a district or zone would still be posted as MPDOs. Now as State cadre posts would be filled through promotions, local Telangana people would get higher level posts. Some zonal posts were also brought under district cadre. The way local candidature is determined under the new zonal system also will help native people. Earlier, wherever a student studied for maximum of four years from Class IV to Xth would be regarded as local candidate of that district. In the new zonal system, maximum four years of stay in a place from Class I to VII will be the criterion to determine local status. Balisindha rasina vadiki … adilabad poor dist ye dorikimdhaa compare cheyatainiki tg lo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: Telangana's debt to gdp is around 23% in 2021 comparable to guj/ Karnataka / maharastra if what they say about ending contract employees + huge recruitment comes to pass Telangana will definitely cross 30% by 2030 even if any govt forms IT will have little to no funds left for infrastructure , just splurging on bloated workforce more nonsense. why do you think 30% of gdp is bad.. tell me. what stops the union govt to spend on infrastructure? you are barking up the wrong tree here. employment in the govt sector is abysmally low in India compared to other countries (even China), and you want to go even lower than that. why though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzen_renoir Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: dude, you are unreal. eppudo oka saari when db people celebrate for a good thing, you are talking about state finances. tell me, what according to you is the right amount of debt to carry, and why? hint: there's no such thing. KCR is not the head of a family trying to budget within the limited revenue he receives. He has the responsibility to deficit spend, to create employment, and to expand the circle of those who can become productive in the future. I don't understand why else you think a govt exists. to suck industrialists d1cks and take their balls deep down their throats? and for what? Govt should either spend on infra, or on welfare. Welfare is what Indian state govts can afford. Everybody is not a psycho state govt like Gujarat that doesn't give a fcuk about the malnutrition in their state. unless you think TG gdp is going to contract in the future (impossible unless the entire world is fcuked), it makes no sense why TG shouldn't put more money in the hands of people through govt employment. It seems they can afford it. sometimes I think Hindutva people are better than conservatives like you, who are so sure about how states should be governed. with ideas that are proven to never work anywhere else. did you watch the latest Batman movie. There's one scene towards the end when Bruce Wayne goes to meet Falcone, and Falcone is playing snooker in his office, and he makes a joke that goes 'do you know why the soviet crumbed?' 'its because of austerity'. Govt employees are at best 1-2% of the population , 90000 jobs are only .2% of Telangana's population In five years govt has to pay atleast 5% of their expenditure to the pay of these .2% of population Atleast welfare schemes cover a borad range of population. adding govt employees only creates a new layer of elites , it doesn't solve anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Moon_Walker said: PK gaadi direction lo elections kosam ee doragaadu ese chillar strategy. gorrelu malli nammuthaaya anedhi question. ee db lo andaru baaga balisi kottukuntunnar ra. kaneesam db title change cheyyandi andhra/tg balisina kodis ani. atleast people who are not psychos can avoid this bs discourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Ryzen_renoir said: Govt employees are at best 1-2% of the population , 90000 jobs are only .2% of Telangana's population In give years govt has to pay atleast 5% of their expenditure to the pay of these .2% of population Atleast welfare schemes cover a borad range of population , adding govt employees only creates a new layer of elites what? so do you admit that you are arguing against yourself? govt employees are way too low in TG and elsewhere too in India. It makes sense to increase that number to atleast 30% of the population. It improves the overall services of the govt. worrying about state finances when there are millions of people out there without jobs is not just cruel, but also bad policy. how conservative do you want India to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 so basically what you guys are saying is, keep govt small, but also increase its capacity to deliver. you guys are living in la la land. a small govt will never gather enough capacity to deliver goods/services for its constituency. and to throw its weight around in a marketplace with bigger states. whether KCR is doing it for votebank politics or not is moot here. What he's proposed is the right thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBob123 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, Sandy_14 said: Better than AP cm Ne yavva AP CM more than 2 LAKhs posts ichadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperbole Posted March 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: How to ruin the states finances -101 For Elections kcr is pushing a permanent strain on state finances If government jobs are a solution to unemployment then increase the recruitment to 1 crores jobs Let everyone get a nice salary and pension , no more unemployment You have mistaken it and has been long pending demand from job aspirants , these jobs are that had to be filled, they never called for a group 1 or dsc notifications, they had to back fill for the last 8 years for people who left the jobs either through retirement and volunteray and some year on year’s vacancies. From next year there will be a yearly calendar as the group 1 positions are also brought under zonal system. For the very reason they are relaxing the job eligibility by additional 10 years he has been long working on the zonal system for the last 6-7 years and was adamant until that was passed he wouldn’t call job notifications . In the beginning of the year, employees were transferred to fall in zonal system albeit some resistance from some employees 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzen_renoir Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: what? so do you admit that you are arguing against yourself? govt employees are way too low in TG and elsewhere too in India. It makes sense to increase that number to atleast 30% of the population. It improves the overall services of the govt. worrying about state finances when there are millions of people out there without jobs is not just cruel, but also bad policy. how conservative do you want India to get? Govt employees are low indeed But govt employee pay is abnormally high , large portion of expenditure is paid as salaries /pensions I mean look at Andhra's situation 50-60% of entire expenditure goes towards salaries of 2% , how is that sustainable ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBob123 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Congratulations 🎉🎊🍾🎈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzen_renoir Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said: what? so do you admit that you are arguing against yourself? govt employees are way too low in TG and elsewhere too in India. It makes sense to increase that number to atleast 30% of the population. It improves the overall services of the govt. worrying about state finances when there are millions of people out there without jobs is not just cruel, but also bad policy. how conservative do you want India to get? If govt jobs solve unemployment the. By all means issue 1 crore jobs notifications Unemployment solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 I used to wonder how Sandrabob with his bs policies got elected twice as CM of AP. and once for the new AP. the man can't give a public speech to save his life, but knows exactly what middle class buttons to push. enough to delude psychos like telugodura to think they are speaking for the common good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenkar Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Aa assembly speech lo direct gaa Jobs gurinchi cheppyeka aa andhralla meeda, aa court caseula paina comment avasarama adyaksha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: If govt jobs solve unemployment the. By all means issue 1 crore jobs notifications Unemployment solved that's like saying, if you feel satiated by eating a cake slice after fasting for 18hrs, why not down 100 of those slices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Rayes Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said: Govt employees are low indeed But govt employee pay is abnormally high , large portion of expenditure is paid as salaries /pensions I mean look at Andhra's situation 50-60% of entire expenditure goes towards salaries of 2% , how is that sustainable ? that can be corrected in future. with new job notifications more reflective of the median pay in TG. having a small govt is unsustainable too. major reason by India sucks. Gujarat is the worst state to live in, for eg. even UP is 100 times better than the trash that is Guj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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