Ayodhya construction ki 3,400 crores collected from normal people anta

[psycopk]

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[JaiBalayyaaa]

1 minute ago, psycopk said:

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Palestine will have the same argument

[Raven_Rayes]

12 minutes ago, Raisins_72 said:

Avunu mari anti-Modi/anti-hindu stand tho nee burra ekkadiko vellindhi kadha 

avunu. nenu chinna pillal tho maatladinattu maatladthey ney meeku artham avthadi.

[reality]

2 minutes ago, JaiBalayyaaa said:

Palestine will have the same argument

Yes

[psycopk]

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[veerigadu]

1 hour ago, psycopk said:

Charitra putta loki pote .. puchi kukka ni kotinatu kotali .. ipudu enduku le chetta anta keep crying useless fellow

Agreed. Hinduism and BJP are two different things. One should delineate these two. Hindu temples were vandalized and demolished by foreign powers since time immemorial. The onus is on all of us to redeem the glory of Hinduism. 

[Raven_Rayes]

4 minutes ago, veerigadu said:

Agreed. Hinduism and BJP are two different things. One should delineate these two. Hindu temples were vandalized and demolished by foreign powers since time immemorial. The onus is on all of us to redeem the glory of Hinduism. 

another idiot who still lives in the past, trying to right wrongs done then.

you should give back lands reddys took from others 100 yrs ago then. walk the talk.

[Raven_Rayes]

16 minutes ago, JaiBalayyaaa said:

Palestine will have the same argument

palestine has much bigger problems than trying to obsess about some religious structure.

[AnandaVivek]

6 hours ago, veerigadu said:

People can spend money as per their discretion ba.
 

We don’t live in communism. They can donate to temples. They have every right. 

I never donate to temples baa. I am not forcing anybody. It’s their money. But don’t this you have given it to swamikaryam and is equal to charity. Money to temples also go to a good cause or prasadam. But its not charity. 

[AnandaVivek]

41 minutes ago, psycopk said:

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Ippati daaka ramudi ki gudi ledani manalni paripalinchatam ledha? God only gives strength to govern ourself. 

[Raven_Rayes]

59 minutes ago, reality said:

Can you post an excerpt? Just curious.

meanwhile, I read this - 

The court observed that all four of the Janamsakhis (biographies of the first Sikhguru, Guru Nanak) state unambiguously and in detail that Guru Nanak made pilgrimage to Ayodhya and offered prayers in the Ram temple in 1510–11 CE.

BJ galla meedha kopam tho.., you may be alienating the whole thing… no doubt BJP is doing it for sole political benefit. That doesn’t mean the history is wrong. There are numerous temples demolished by Muslim invaders, which is unfair.

the judgement all of 1045 pages is available online

https://main.sci.gov.in/supremecourt/2010/36350/36350_2010_1_1502_18205_Judgement_09-Nov-2019.pdf

page 674.. Alexander Cunningham (founder of Archeological Survey of India) who was the first person to conduct a survey of Ayodhya in 1862 concluded that all temples in the region were of recent origin. though he posits that the older temples may have been under the sites on which mosques stand now, there was a old Hanuman Garhi, a fort surrounding a temple that still stands, but that it is not older than Aurangazeb period.

He also states that it was Vikramaditya of Ujjain in the 1st century that revived Ayodhya (also mentioned in the judgement elsewhere) that built a lot of temples at the spots mentioned in Ramayana. but by the time of 7th century Chinese Pilgrim who visits the place records it as a buddhist center with no mention of any of the temples that vikramaditya built existing.

during the time of demolition in 1992, a stone with an inscription of Vishnu-Hari was found among two others, which had sanskrit writings with descriptions of some of vishnu avatars.

in 2003, a radar search on the compound found that there was a structure under the mosque.. it is after this that excavation of the site is ordered by the Lucknow court to find out what that structure is.

even though the temple is dated to be from the 11-12th century from the earlier found inscription (found during the 1992 madness), excavations found several layers of archeological ruins from other eras, including the jain eras dating from 1000 BC. artifacts of mother goddess worshipped by Shungas in 200 BC, Gupta era architecture etc.. ASI is still evaluating the artfiacts it found under the site.

after this excavation buddhists have also claimed the site in Ayodhya because the touchstone pillars found in the site resembles other buddhist viharas.

nowhere does ASI mention a Ram Temple underneath the Masjid.

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as for the Sikh janamsakhis, this particular one written after the 18th century - they are to be taken as hagiographies written by brahmins about Guru Nanak, because there's no way Guru Nanak would visit a temple since he was against Idol worship and held that pilgirimage to holy spots is totally irrelevant to attain salvation.

 

[psycopk]

57 minutes ago, AnandaVivek said:

Ippati daaka ramudi ki gudi ledani manalni paripalinchatam ledha? God only gives strength to govern ourself. 

Edo le.. ayana feeling… rama janma stlam lo unte ado anandam..

[veerigadu]

2 hours ago, AnandaVivek said:

I never donate to temples baa. I am not forcing anybody. It’s their money. But don’t this you have given it to swamikaryam and is equal to charity. Money to temples also go to a good cause or prasadam. But its not charity. 

Yeah. People spend crazy money on fussies and rave party celebrations. Can we tell them to not spend that money?
 

Atleast spending money on religious institutions is good. It keeps our culture and religion intact. 

[pakeer_saab]

3 hours ago, JaiBalayyaaa said:

Palestine will have the same argument

so let them, how is that related to Hindus and Ram Temple

[veerigadu]

3 hours ago, JaiBalayyaaa said:

Palestine will have the same argument

Not entirely true. It’s a time dependent situation when it comes to Middle East.
For instance, If you look at pre biblical times, then Jews indeed owned that land. However in modern times, Palestine people are considered natives of that land. 
 

So based on time line the narrative varies. 

In the case of India, it’s an entirely different situation. Hindus owned our land since time immemorial. You can trace it back to any time period. The answer remains same.