BJP Govt in 10 years !

[pakeer_saab]

5 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

so you are saying...proests are happend only in panjab...hmm...

seems you forgot these incidents in UP...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakhimpur_Kheri_violence

and also various farm unions participation across india...over more than a year..

unnecessary it colorized only panjab farmers protest...

your talking about choice more...then why cant govt listen to former demands...like..

implement swaminathan panel recommendations...cut the diesel pricess for agricultural use...etc

prediction...

i am telling you how corporate culture since you are boasting about corporate...i know when to move away from corporate...i am not proud of with my job...

anyway...lets come to this point...

thats one of the strong demand by farmers...

Written assurance on minimum support price (MSP)

 

lets see if you really have a rational mind

 

Why protests are only done by Punjab farmers and not by other state farmers

here are the demands of these protests

- ₹1.2 Lakh annual pension for each farmer

- Govt should pay in full for crop insurance

- India should come out of the WTO

- 200 employment days of MNREGA @ 700/day

these demands are nothing in good faith, if these demands are given, India will go bankrupt in 6 months

 

 

[pakeer_saab]

7 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

you gave choice...they didnt like the choice...thats why they did protest...

farmers issues gurinchi...farmers know better than you and me...(who always see things in corportate IT JOB lensess...)

 

what assertion..? small formers...cant transport their goods in larger distance...is it assertion..?

endo emo...emi maataldadutunnaro...

this is classic example of "too many assumptions.."

why you are predicting...like something wonder is going to happen...

ok...should we bring the militory also under corporate..? why only kisan...bring jawan also under corporate...

jai jawan jai kisan...

lol...logic..

i am repeating..have you heard about monsanto BT cotton seeds or any  seeds coming in market..or pesticides...etc

already framers are treating like slaves with all corporate gene manipuatled seeds...

plant -> seed- > plant -> seed.... this is plant nature....

but it changed.. BUY seed-> plant -> that plant doesnt give seed -> again you have to buy the seeds -> plant -> that plant doesnt give seed...

now you are saying...full corporatization.. lol...

i work in big corporate past 18+ years...i know how corporate culture is....

you worked in corporate culture yet do not know the inefficiencies of farmers when it comes to crop rotation or going for cash crops

problem is not entirely with govt but majority with farmers, they expect govt to give doles when crop fail but want to make profits when things are good

job of govt is to create value for tax payers, social spending is good only when it creates assets

giving loan waivers have made even farmers who pay their loans get used to freebie culture leaving entire agricultural finance as high risk area

[dasari4kntr]

3 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

lets see if you really have a rational mind

 

Why protests are only done by Punjab farmers and not by other state farmers

here are the demands of these protests

- ₹1.2 Lakh annual pension for each farmer

- Govt should pay in full for crop insurance

- India should come out of the WTO

- 200 employment days of MNREGA @ 700/day

these demands are nothing in good faith, if these demands are given, India will go bankrupt in 6 months

 

 

 

i do...have rational mind..thats why i acknowledge this mascare.. and you claiming it only happend in panjab...it happend across the india...but in BJP ruling states it was suppressed  with these violent methods...

 

Lakhimpur Kheri incident^[18] was a vehicle-ramming attack and mob lynching incident during farmers’ protest against the three farm laws passed by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) led Union Government. It happened on 3 October 2021 at Banbirpur village near Tikunia in Lakhimpur Kheri district, Uttar Pradesh, India, resulting in deaths of eight people and injuries to ten others. Four protesting farmers and a journalist were run over by the car.^[19] Two BJP members and Ajay Mishra Teni's driver were lynched by protestors in the subsequent violence.^[20][21]

 

coming to other demands...they are not as worse as building statue of unity or new luxury parlament building...

 

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, dasari4kntr said:

hmm... actual indian former agitation started in 9 August 2020 – 11 December 2021 (1 year, 4 months, 2 days)

and if you are reading news...there is another thing just flared up in delhi (because govt didnt full fill the promises as per the initial talks..)

as per your moot logic accusation and description...you want to #1 force feed a kid which they dont want...vallu voddu morro antunna...no take it for better economy ani ..(lol...this is another desam kosam dharmam kosam type..)

#2 freeing them is your assumption...again lot of assumptions..

sounds to me trading reform or commodity reform than actual forming reform...

if any reform is just talking about only business and trade ... not even mention former suicides or real forming issues or security against natural calamities..etc ...how it is called a reform..?

banking experience is tough...i can full debate on that...

seems you are just looking at creamy layer...i visited my town bank branch...lot of forming people approaches me to fil their form...(innocently..)

banking in india is worst thing...

and #3 you are advicing another worst thing legal battle to formers...

"#4What are farmers in Amaravathi doing them"..this is classic example of absurd analogy..amaravati formers are fighting for real estate cause..not for forming related issues..#4 this example is evident..your views on farming laws...

#5 your comapring with vietnam...with india is another absurd logic...indian agricultural out put around #6 300+ metric tonnes while vietnam agricultral output is 60+ metric tonnes (even after so called reforms...)

vitenam #7main crops are very limited..and their agricultural land is limited...people social diversity is limited..

india is much wider and diversified with all the scenarios...

#8 BTW...still vietnam is struggling with former income issues...and input cost issues... (even after reforms..)

i think you are in wrong notion like liberalization #9 means...giving everything to corporates...

this is your real argument...you like BJP and you support their agricultral reforms #11 with out neutral mind...

if you have a#10 bias towards something...are you better judge..?

and also...you keep repeating...BJP election achievements and fantasizing how they gonna transform...

seems i am #12-13 trying to debate and make a reasonable discussion with a BJP karyakartha...

what a waste of time...

#1 A very insignificant number of protestors if farming population of entire India is accounted for, and therefore not representative population. Doesn't count much. 

#2.No assumption there. It's a fact that liberalization and it's consequences  were single handedly responsible for lifting people out of poverty in India. This is a mere extension of that into agriculture sector.  They are free to choose. Having a choice is freedom, rather than forcing  them to sell in market yards. You can try to define it with any yardstick, selling in only market yards is never freedom.

#3 When legal issues arise, you need legal counsel. You're talking of contract farming then you will need to understand the legal consequences. 

#4 So you acknowledge that  farmers in Amaravathi can fight legally. I'm talking of their ability to contest legally. What exactly was evident ? isn't it already obvious as I'm already advocating for liberalization, what did you dig out here exactly?

#5 Not absurd at all. Vietnam has moved from a state monopoly to accepting liberalization even though it's economy is extremely reliant on agriculture. Relatively India is a quasi industrial nation, and has huge farm land which can benefit further more when the agriculture sectors is liberalized. 

#6 You need to normalize for the size of farmland when you compare India with Vietnam. Vietnam acreage is around 7 million hectares, whereas the farmland  in India is over 150 million hectares which roughly 21x.  How would that fare in terms of yield then? That means Vietnam's relative output is 4 times higher than that of India. If this is the base of your argument, it's a feeble one.

#7 Again when you talk of crop diversity, we are talking of only those that fall under essential commodities. Rice is the staple both in India and Vietnam and is major crop that's central to protestors pricing concern. We are not talking about commercial crops. What does people diversity has anything to do with crop yield and it's selling price?

#8 Still Vietnam has better production relative to their farm land size due to liberalization and modernization of their agriculture. 

#9 This is a loaded word. What do you mean by giving everything to corporates? Which part of the proposed law or it's subsections either implicitly or explicitly state this ? How exactly do you think corporates will take away farming?

#10 Judges do have their own biases. Often times, judgements rely on the previous precedents set by earlier judgements. In my case, the results from a precedent are already visible, which is liberalization of economy has improved the wealth and standard of living for millions when you compare the lives of people in before 80's to the ones post liberalization.

#11 What do you mean by neutral mind? Why do you even need one, when you can see the results for yourself? Congress government had successfully made the country socialist by even adding the word to the preamble of constitution. Successive planning commissions created nothing but poverty and incompetence. If BJP is taking the economy in the right direction, I support it delightfully. The results of liberalization were far superior in both extent and spread across India for anyone to see. 

#12  Prediction is different from fantasy. You should probably learn to differentiate both. The better judge of it is the election results. The numbers speak better than words. So, my prediction is based on numbers. It's inevitable at this point.  

#13 There is nothing to reason when there is nothing to agree upon. The only reason I post here is to have a counter narrative to the readers, not that I seek validation. I wouldn't mind typing something at leisure and no I'm not a karyakarta, but still support current BJP leadership over any small time self proclaimed champion of poor in Telugu states. 

[dasari4kntr]

22 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

you worked in corporate culture yet do not know the inefficiencies of farmers when it comes to crop rotation or going for cash crops

i worked in corporate culture...i know better corporate greed..in front of that..former demands are nothing..

23 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

problem is not entirely with govt but majority with farmers, they expect govt to give doles when crop fail but want to make profits when things are good

 

24 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

job of govt is to create value for tax payers, social spending is good only when it creates assets

same as govt... yeda raja tada praja..you explained argument and counter argument in your two lines comments...

govt wants to create a value out of people hard earned tax money...so formers want to make value out of their hard work and if something goes wrong...expecting govt support... i dont see wrong in that...

26 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

giving loan waivers have made even farmers who pay their loans get used to freebie culture leaving entire agricultural finance as high risk area

for political benefits giving loan waivers ..i too against that...

these loan waivers should be given only when natural calamity happens...

but all political parties are mis using this...

[dasari4kntr]

25 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#1 A very insignificant number of protestors if farming population of entire India is accounted for, and therefore not representative population. Doesn't count much. 

#2.No assumption there. It's a fact that liberalization and it's consequences  were single handedly responsible for lifting people out of poverty in India. This is a mere extension of that into agriculture sector.  They are free to choose. Having a choice is freedom, rather than forcing  them to sell in market yards. You can try to define it with any yardstick, selling in only market yards is never freedom.

#3 When legal issues arise, you need legal counsel. You're talking of contract farming then you will need to understand the legal consequences. 

#4 So you acknowledge that  farmers in Amaravathi can fight legally. I'm talking of their ability to contest legally. What exactly was evident ? isn't it already obvious as I'm already advocating for liberalization, what did you dig you with this?

#5 Not absurd at all. Vietnam has moved from a state monopoly to accepting liberalization even though it's economy is extremely reliant on agriculture. Relatively India is quasi industrial nation, and has huge farm land which can benefit further more when the agriculture sectors is liberalized. 

#6 You need to normalize for the size of farmland when you compare India with Vietnam. Vietnam acreage is around 7 million hectares, whereas the farmland  in India is over 150 million hectares which roughly 21x.  How would that fare in terms of yield then? That means Vietnam relative output is 4 times higher than that of India. If this is base of your argument, it makes it's a feeble one.

#7 Again when you talk of crop diversity, we are talking of only those that fall under essential commodities. Rice is the staple both in India and Vietnam and is major crop that's central to protestors pricing concern. We are not talking about commercial crops. What does people diversity has anything to do with crop yield and it's selling price?

#8 Still Vietnam has better production relative to their farm land size due to liberalization and modernization of their agriculture. 

#9 This is a loaded word. What do you mean by giving everything to corporates? Which part of the proposed law or it's subsections either implicitly or explicitly state this ? How exactly do you think corporates will take away farming?

#10 Judges do have their own biases. Often times, judgements rely on the previous precedents set by earlier judgements. In my case, the results from a precedent are already visible, which is liberalization of economy has improved the wealth and standard of living for millions when you compare the lives of people in before 80's to the ones post liberalization.

#11 What do you mean by neutral mind? Why do you even need one, when you can see the results for yourself? Congress government had successfully made the country socialist by even adding the word to the preamble of constitution. Successive planning commissions created nothing but poverty and incompetence. If BJP is taking the economy in the right direction, I support it delightfully. The results of liberalization were far superior in both extent and spread across India for anyone to see. 

#12  Prediction is different from fantasy. You should probably learn to differentiate both. The better judge of it is the election results. The numbers speak better than words. So, my prediction is based on numbers. It's inevitable at this point.  

#13 There is nothing to reason when there is nothing to agree upon. I only reason I post here is to have counter narrative to the readers, not that I seek validation. I wouldn't mind typing something at leisure and no I'm not a karyakarta, but still support current BJP leadership over any small time self proclaimed champion of poor in Telugu states. 

first of all tell me...

are you bot?...if i say something ideologically there is some counter arguemt on ideollogy...but you picked up your some  stand from the beginning and keep repeating the same... i got this comment after reading point 5-6  and those number lining... i am feeling like you are AI bot...sorry...this is my honest opinion... (i want to see this reply for this...then i will proceed further with my replies...)

i dont want be fooled just by talking to bot...still i want to talk with neutral mind or rational mind....

seems i am wasting my energy with a bot... (prove me wrong...) i still want to debate..

[Android_Halwa]

3 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

as per this logic...entire population didnt participate in freedom fighting so that means indians want british ruling..?

Bhale chepav comrade…!

[CanadianMalodu]

12 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

first of all tell me...

are you bot?...if i say something ideologically there is some counter arguemt on ideollogy...but you picked up your some  stand from the beginning and keep repeating the same... i got this comment after reading point 5-6  and those number lining... i am feeling like you are AI bot...sorry...this is my honest opinion... (i want to see this reply for this...then i will proceed further with my replies...)

i dont want be fooled just by talking to bot...still i want to talk with neutral mind or rational mind....

seems i am wasting my energy with a bot... (prove me wrong...) i still want to debate..

Not a bot. That's my writing style.

[dasari4kntr]

7 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Bhale chepav comrade…!

as per your self claimed corrupt minded logic...should i respond or not respond...?

pedda chikku vachhi padindhe...

[dasari4kntr]

3 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Not a bot. That's my writing style.

then please quote on quote...

that way..what i said..on what point your responding will be clear...

otherwise..its difficult...

[CanadianMalodu]

10 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

then please quote on quote...

that way..what i said..on what point your responding will be clear...

otherwise..its difficult...

17 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

then please quote on quote...

that way..what i said..on what point your responding will be clear...

otherwise..its difficult...

 

I've updated my response with pointers in your reply, not quote and quote exactly though.

[dasari4kntr]

2 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#1 A very insignificant number of protestors if farming population of entire India is accounted for, and therefore not representative population. Doesn't count much. 

lol..then why BJP revoked..?

4 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#2.No assumption there. It's a fact that liberalization and it's consequences  were single handedly responsible for lifting people out of poverty in India. This is a mere extension of that into agriculture sector.  They are free to choose. Having a choice is freedom, rather than forcing to them sell in market yards. You can try to define it with any yardstick, selling in market yards is never freedom.

can you please read up about gini inequality methods...

and how many people are below poverty line...and how many farmers soing suicindes..

all we are taliking with words...and assumptions...

i dont see a single number or fact checked source from you till now...

if you ask me the same..i am happy to provide...(as much as reliable sources..) but the question is do you accept..?

because..recent niramal sitramana economy white patper i have new doubts on accpeting other non indicies...

8 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#3 When legal issues arise, you need legal counsel. You're talking of contract farming then you will need to under the legal consequences. 

dude...

when you will realize...a normal indian farmer goes to court only for his share of land as inheritance...

if you are putting all these trading terminalogy..and asking him to go for legal battle...that doesnt work...

you are in your own fantacy...like legal counsel...etc...when did you recently visit india..?

by knowing there will be legal issue..why would they accept these reforms...

11 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#4 So you acknowledge that  farmers in Amaravathi can fight legally. I'm talking of their ability to contest legally. What exactly was evident ? isn't it already obvious as I'm already advocating for liberalization, what did you dig you with this?

emi matladutunnav bayya..

why a sudden long jump from farmer reforms to amravathi land issues..

still you didnt understand the crop insurance...farmer crop yield..etc 

unnecessarly why you doing kichidi...with amaravati real estate protest...

14 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#5 Not absurd at all. Vietnam has moved from a state monopoly to accepting liberalization even though it's economy is extremely reliant on agriculture. Relatively India is quasi industrial nation, and has huge farm land which can benefit further more when the agriculture sectors is liberalized

 

33 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#7 Again when you talk of crop diversity, we are talking of only those that fall under essential commodities. Rice is staple both in India and Vietnam and is major crop that's central to protestors pricing concern. We are not talking about commercial crops. What does people diversity has anything to do with crop yield and it's selling price?

#8 Still Vietnam has better productions relative to their farm land size due to liberalization and modernization of their agriculture. 

nee vaadam neede kaani...you put zero interest to understand farmer demands.. or what i wrote in my comment..

thats will go forever in india also...if BJP karyakarthas have same mindset...

if you are claiming vietnam is better after reforms...you need to come up with data not generative words...

i looking for data points...or reliable source..

35 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#9 This is a loaded word. What do you mean by giving everything to corporates? Which part of the proposed law or it's subsections either implicitly or explicitly state this ? How exactly do you think corporates will take away farming?

you dont need that much surprise...

corporate mindset is money minded...it doesnt care anything than money...

specific laws avasaram ledhu...there is abstract law for that which is farming laws..

57 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#10 Judges do have their own biases. Often times, judgements rely on the previous precedents set by earlier judgements. In my case, the results from precedent is already visible, which is liberalization of economy has improved the wealth and standard of living for millions when you compare the lives of people in before 80's to the ones post liberalization.

so..i think..you need to read up inequality index..and how its caliculated..

there are so many isms...like capitalism, socialism, communism...etc..nothing is perfect..

if we are blindly idealising the isms do magics..then we are the first fools...

these isms came after french revolution...certainly they have expiry date...with another revoltuion...that could be farmer revolution or something else...but there will be one for sure..

 

57 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#11 What do you mean by neutral mind? Why do you even need one, when you can see the results for yourself? Congress government has successfully made the country socialist by even adding the word to the preamble of constitution. Successive planning commissions created nothing but poverty and incompetence. If BJP is taking the economy in the right direction, I would support it delightfully. The results of liberalization were far superior both extent and spread across India for anyone to see. 

 

in my view neutral mind is..think about any policy rational mind... ration is reason...

and also bit of empathy...and seeing through other people lives..who are effected by policy...

including through people who are protesting in their lense....try to understand why they are protesting and what they needed..instead of judging them with political bias...

1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#12  Prediction is different from fantasy. You should probably learn to differentiate both. The better judge of it is the election results. The numbers speak better than words. So, my prediction is based on numbers. It's inevitable at this point.  

if you are fantasize about prediciting things..what it would be...?

lot of people and media groups are predicting results with their fantacies...all of them are accurate and correct..

you claiming about number..i didnt see a single number from you...in this entire thread...

1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#13 There is nothing to reason when there is nothing to agree upon. I only reason I post here is to have counter narrative to the readers, not that I seek validation. I wouldn't mind typing something at leisure and no I'm not a karyakarta, but still support current BJP leadership over any small time self proclaimed champion of poor in Telugu states. 

this is big LOL..

you saying you are seeking for counter narrative..did you learn anything from counter narrative..? you still preaching the same corporate stuff..and waht is your stand is still same..even after i provided some different examples..

whats the point of listening counter narrative..if you are stubborn with your narrative...show off tappa...

its waste of time to you or other party to debate with you..if you are not learning anything...its a big time waste...

[Raisins_72]

@CanadianMalodu - Anna, em chadhuvukunnaavey - aa 13 points ki nee knowledge, nee opika ki, aa writing skills ki…

 

[dasari4kntr]

 

[CanadianMalodu]

9 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

#1 lol..then why BJP revoked..?

#2can you please read up about gini inequality methods...

and how many people are below poverty line...and how many farmers soing suicindes..

all we are taliking with words...and assumptions...

i dont see a#3 single number or fact checked source from you till now...

if you ask me the same..i am happy to provide...(as much as reliable sources..) but the question is do you accept..?

because..recent #4 niramal sitramana economy white patper i have new doubts on accpeting other non indicies...

dude...

#5 when you will realize...a normal indian farmer goes to court only for his share of land as inheritance...

if you are putting all these trading terminalogy..and asking him to go for legal battle...that doesnt work...

you are in your own fantacy...like legal counsel...etc..#6.when did you recently visit india..?

by #7 knowing there will be legal issue..why would they accept these reforms...

emi matladutunnav bayya..

why a sudden long jump from #8 farmer reforms to amravathi land issues..

still #9 you didnt understand the crop insurance...farmer crop yield..etc 

unnecessarly why you doing kichidi...with amaravati real estate protest...

 

nee vaadam neede kaani...you put zero interest to understand #10farmer demands.. or what i wrote in my comment..

thats will go forever in india also...if BJP karyakarthas have same mindset...

if you are #11 claiming vietnam is better after reforms...you need to come up with data not generative words...

i looking for data points...or reliable source..

you dont need that much surprise...

#12 corporate mindset is money minded...it doesnt care anything than money...

#13 specific laws avasaram ledhu...there is abstract law for that which is farming laws..

so..i think..you need to read up inequality index..and how its caliculated..

there are so many isms...like#14 capitalism, socialism, communism...etc..nothing is perfect..

if we are blindly idealising the isms do magics..then we are the first fools...

these isms came after french revolution...certainly they have expiry date...with another revoltuion...that could be farmer revolution or something else...but there will be one for sure..

 

in my view neutral mind is..think about any policy rational mind... ration is reason...

and also bit of empathy...and seeing through other people lives..who are effected by policy...

including through people who are protesting in their lense....try to understand why they are protesting and what they #15 needed..instead of judging them with political bias...

if you are fantasize about prediciting things..what it would be...?

lot of people and media groups are predicting results with their fantacies...all of them are accurate and correct..

you claiming about #16 number..i didnt see a single number from you...in this entire thread...

this is big LOL..

you saying you are #17 seeking for counter narrative..did you learn anything from counter narrative..? you still preaching the same corporate stuff..and waht is your stand is still same..even after i provided some different examples..

whats the point of listening counter narrative..if you are stubborn with your narrative...show off tappa...

its waste of time to you or other party to debate with you..if you are not learning anything...its a #18 big time waste...

#1 In the view of last elections and forth coming central elections. Achieving majority is far more important and any mob violence will have some electoral damage. This bill will be tabled again after next central elections. 

#2 I know about it. So do you intend to say farmers suicides will go up if farm law bill comes into effect? What's your point?

#3 Ask what numbers do you need ? Sure go ahead and cite your numbers and sources.

#4 Stick to farm laws for now. We can talk of white paper another time.

#5 Farmer or not anyone will go court court only in case of a dispute. This entire argument of going to court is brought by you citing corporates will cheat farmers by citing one or another reason, the point being that only is a possibility (notwithstanding however remote the chances are) only when a farmer agrees to contract farming. Without a corporate agreement, a farmer can still sell his produce to  the highest bidder across the nation.

 #6 I visit India once in 4 months. Last visit is as recent as December 2023. What does that have to do with trajectory of this discussion.

#7 Again, you're talking as if farmers are forced to sign contract. Farmers are free to pursue their best interests, be it contract farming or individual farming. When they're signing up for contracts, they should know that it's a legally binding agreement.Legal issue arises only between two parties that signed a contract it's inherently not a legal issue for entire farming community. 

#8 Because the entire premise of your argument is centered around your assertion that a farmer can't fight legal battle and here are farmers in Amaravathi, who are fighting legal battles. So can farmers fight legal battles? sure they can. A lot depends on circumstances of the individual farmer and nature of the legal dispute. 

#9 What about it? If farming is a for profit activity why should governments pay for it at the tax payers expense? Why should salaries class pay for it ? Let farmers who indulge in for profit activity pay for their crop insurance. 

#10.Summarize farmers demands. You haven't written what their explicit demands are in light of farm laws protest. 

#11 Ofcourse it did, relative to its performance before liberalization. You can read this publication for quantitative data:

10.4236/me.2020.114067

#12 Everyone is money minded. That's what for profit means. You talk as if farmers don't want money.

#13 What do you mean by abstract law? Is there such a thing? If something is not written, how do you arrive at a conclusion that it's inherently for corporates? Whether or not it's a profitable activity is up to the parties that indulge in it 

#14 Capitalism may not be perfect, but is perhaps only system that everyone engaging in an economic activity knows that it's a for profit activity and the end goal is to make money, for those that invested the capital. Socialism and communism preach equality but in reality had only spread poverty, death and famine globally. I'd reject it downright.

#15 To ignore political bias, is as good as kissing a cobra. I ain't biting that bait.

#16 Number in this context is wrt. Number of seats that BJP is set to win. I wouldn't put up any estimates on this here. I will talk about it after election. If you want any other numbers, ask specifically. 

#17 I'm here to present the counter narrative not seeking one. What do I have to learn here except for insistence of continuing the same system which burdens governments, salaried class and still doesn't work for farmers except for middle men.

#18 Which is why I concluded this argument a while back. There is nothing to be reasoned with as there is nothing we agree upon.