VenkyBabu Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 అర్ధ శతాబ్దపు అజ్ఞ్యానాన్ని స్వతంత్ర్యం అందమా ? స్వర్ణోత్సవాలు చేద్దామా? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenkyBabu Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 ఏ దేశ చరిత్ర చుసిన ఏమున్నది గర్వకారణం ? నరజాతి చరిత్ర సమస్తం పరపీడన పరాయణత్వం Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenkyBabu Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 నా దేశ సైనికుల... నా దేశ ప్రజల రుధిర వర్షాలు కురిసిన చోట ... కన్నీటి సరస్సులు పొంగిన చోట ... మతమనే జ్వాలాగ్ని లో పిల్ల, జెల్ల దహింపబడి బూడిదయినా చోట .... ఎం చేయమంటావ్ ? శాంతి అనే పువ్వులు పూయించమంటావా ? చర్చల పేరుతో కాలయాపనలు చేస్తూ.... బానిసత్వం అనే పంట పండించమంటావా ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom bhayya Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: in simple words... india-kashmir-pak conflict is lot of mess..(even messier than palastina issue).. in my opinion...this conflict comes under the "egg first or chicken first" scenario.... at the beginning of this conflict...Kashmir king was Hindhu..and majority population was muslim... (going by king word or majority of people word..is still hypothesis... since there was no democracy during that time)... ( i dont want to go in-depth...after effects..and what happen after that) we just cant simple pass judgements sitting somewhere else... coming to the "desham ante"....quote.. "desham ante matti kaadhu ...manushulu"...daani artham.... country means not the border its the people...but both parties are fighting about border only...not for the people...if both parties are thinking about people...hindhu pandit killings wont happen and also our indians wont make cheap comments like going there to get marry kashmiri girl...etc if any one want to reply on this..please take time and process it and comment ... than instantly comment in half way... what are you talking 1500 years back islam aney religion ey ledhu first thing second thing they all immigrated only 500-600 years back immigrate ainollu vachi idhi maa land anadam enti asalu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom bhayya Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 palestine jews ki ichi vellipothaada gaza ni jews claim that its their homeland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, TrollBait said: the aggressor in Kashmir has always been India and Indian allied forces (aka. maharaja hari singh). going by king's word is bullsiht. the people don't want to be with India. kashmir are fighting for their right to decide for themselves. India is crushing that right. Hindu pandit killed were 200 or so, and in return how many kashmiris got killed? few lakhs atleast. also you convenientfly forgot the jammu muslims massacre by Raja Singh and Indian forces before this whole fiasco began. its a straight up act of aggresssion by India. There are no 'both sides' to it. ok..in this entire conflict...PAK is making things more mess...(pak govt..not people) i have ...few questions...based on your answers i will continue this discussion... 1. if it is India-Kashmir conflict...why PAK involvement there? (if it is only india-kashmir issue alone with no pak involvement..i would have choose the side quickly towards kashmiri independence) 2. what kashmiris want? to be independent? or want to join with pak? 3. arn't there any pak sponsored terrorists there in the movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenkyBabu Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 నా దేశ నేలపై అమరులైన సైనికుల రక్తాన్ని సిరాగా చేసుకొని శాంతి లేఖలు రాయమంటావా ? వారు వొదిలిన ఊపిరి లో తెల్లని పావురం తో కబురంపి ... చర్చలు చేయమంటావా ? వారి త్యాగాలని పాతరేసి , వారి మరణాలని పావుగా చూపి, సంధి చేసుకోమంటావా ? సరిహద్దులు చీల్చుకొని దూసుకొచ్చే విషనాగులకి వొంగి సలాం కొట్టమంటావా? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted July 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: ok..in this entire conflict...PAK is making things more mess...(pak govt..not people) i have ...few questions...based on your answers i will continue this discussion... 1. if it is India-Kashmir conflict...why PAK involvement there? (if it is only india-kashmir issue alone with no pak involvement..i would have choose the side quickly towards kashmiri independence) 2. what kashmiris want? to be independent? or want to join with pak? 3. arn't there any pak sponsored terrorists there in the movement? 1. some kashmiris invited pakistan as party to the dispute. so? its between the kashmiris to decide. Not India/Pak to poke their nose. 2. what kashmiris want anedhi naaketla telusthadi. They don't want India ani maatram telusu given they don't even turn out to vote in general elections, while vote in huge numbers in local elections 3. so what if they were? India is the one that has occupied kashmir. There's no such movement for freedom on kashmir side. They already declared it azad kashmir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasari4kntr Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, tom bhayya said: what are you talking 1500 years back islam aney religion ey ledhu first thing second thing they all immigrated only 500-600 years back immigrate ainollu vachi idhi maa land anadam enti asalu? "desham ante matti kaadhu ...manushulu".. irrespective of religion they are the population of kashmiri kingdom... thats why i said..."egg first or chicken first" scenario in feudal system "king first or people first" in feudal system people wont won the land..but king does...until unless there was a revolution happen overthrow the king and establish the democracy... but thats not happen in kashmiri case... in this entire conflict...PAK is making things more worse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenkyBabu Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Muslims lo kuda ... Pak Ki vellevsllu vellochu ... India lo undevallu India lo undocchu ani undedhi apudu ... adhi marchipoyaru rao garu ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted July 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, VenkyBabu said: Muslims lo kuda ... Pak Ki vellevsllu vellochu ... India lo undevallu India lo undocchu ani undedhi apudu ... adhi marchipoyaru rao garu ? so? you think forcibly uprooting people who lived for centuries in India is practical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom bhayya Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: "desham ante matti kaadhu ...manushulu".. irrespective of religion they are the population of kashmiri kingdom... thats why i said..."egg first or chicken first" scenario in feudal system "king first or people first" in feudal system people wont won the land..but king does...until unless there was a revolution happen overthrow the king and establish the democracy... but thats not happen in kashmiri case... in this entire conflict...PAK is making things more worse... immigrants antha vachi memu majority unnam meeru ingeyyandi antey ok naa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenkyBabu Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Indira Gandhi Emergency ni ye janalu korukunnaru? modi ipudu govt companies ... BSNL, air India etc anni ammesthunnadu? Evaru iccharu govt Ki aa right ? sare ... Raju korukunnattu kadhu prajalu korukunnattu jaragali annapudu ... Hyderabad state was not part of India in 1947. Ikkada janalu fight chesthe Patel saab choravatho kaliparu ankunta ... kashmir anedhi India lakkunnadhi kadhu ... akkada janala paina atrocities ni ma daivam JLN kuda apaledhu... minority votes kosam baboi enno dramalu adinaru. Ye state ki leni special powers anevi kashmiri Ki unnayi ... anni alochinchali rao garu ? Farooq abdullah and co tho ma INC batch laloochi padi entha worst Ki theeskoccharo? Vadi elections odipothe aa elections eh cancel chesenthaga... Kashmir ni penta penta chesindhi both Congress & bjp ... vallu apudu ... veellu ipudu .. anthe theda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted July 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Just now, tom bhayya said: immigrants antha vachi memu majority unnam meeru ingeyyandi antey ok naa? evarabba immigrants ikkada? hahaha.. so 1500yrs back hindu place kaabatti, adhi India dhi anaa nee vaadana? deenney soft hindutva antaru. ofcourse maj indians believe this because they don't care about people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollBait Posted July 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, VenkyBabu said: Indira Gandhi Emergency ni ye janalu korukunnaru? modi ipudu govt companies ... BSNL, air India etc anni ammesthunnadu? Evaru iccharu govt Ki aa right ? sare ... Raju korukunnattu kadhu prajalu korukunnattu jaragali annapudu ... Hyderabad state was not part of India in 1947. Ikkada janalu fight chesthe Patel saab choravatho kaliparu ankunta ... kashmir anedhi India lakkunnadhi kadhu ... akkada janala paina atrocities ni ma daivam JLN kuda apaledhu... minority votes kosam baboi enno dramalu adinaru. Ye state ki leni special powers anevi kashmiri Ki unnayi ... anni alochinchali rao garu ? Farooq abdullah and co tho ma INC batch laloochi padi entha worst Ki theeskoccharo? Vadi elections odipothe aa elections eh cancel chesenthaga... Kashmir ni penta penta chesindhi both Congress & bjp ... vallu apudu ... veellu ipudu .. anthe theda sollu sollllu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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