reality Posted August 3, 2020 Author Report Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Repo said: Nenu adi vesindi WH site lo undi. Anthe kaaani nenu dani meeda emi conclude cheyyaledu. Nivve aatram mootram aagaka vesi nannu tag chesav. Baga aadav le pulka drive.... read the post again...and your reply... ayina...immi matters lo ninnu minchina aathresh evadu untadu cheppu... Quote
Repo Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: I am talking about contracting work here. It says “foreign workers cannot be hired for competent service” in the EO - which would mean fulltime jobs. Anyway h1bs are not eligible for them so big deal. Coming to contracting, why will contractors be displacing Americans if there were no Americans in the first place? It just means that Americans cannot be fired to create new jobs for h1bs- that has been known for quite sometime now. Nothing new. E EO tarvatha no one will hire H1 in contracting. Did you see his words ? You are fired anta evaranna veshalu vesthe. Quote
Repo Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, reality said: Baga aadav le pulka drive.... read the post again...and your reply... ayina...immi matters lo ninnu minchina aathresh evadu untadu cheppu... Malla chuso poyyi. Nuvvu neeke edo anukunte ayyedi kadu adi. Vunna matter vesa in other theddu as well. I didn't conclude anything. Quote
Repo Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, ARYA said: Asalu schedule lo clear ga rasindu ga signing hire American EO ani, it's not related to Merit based EO haha yeah. Ade kada. Akkada clear ga vundi TVA outsourcing ani chepparu. Aina Merit EO ante oka weeek munde hadavidi untadi le bro. Antha hungama lekunda undadu. Quote
ARYA Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Repo said: yeah. Ade kada. Akkada clear ga vundi TVA outsourcing ani chepparu. Aina Merit EO ante oka weeek munde hadavidi untadi le bro. Antha hungama lekunda undadu. Its linked with DACA another sesitive issue for reps so will be a big deal Quote
proudtobeandhrite Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, DummyVariable said: I am talking about contracting work here. It says “foreign workers cannot be hired for competent service” in the EO - which would mean fulltime jobs. Anyway h1bs are not eligible for them so big deal. Coming to contracting, why will contractors be displacing Americans if there were no Americans in the first place? It just means that Americans cannot be fired to create new jobs for h1bs- that has been known for quite sometime now. Nothing new. Asalu ee head ache anthe ikkada nunche start ayyindi kada when disney replaced existing FTs with contract H1bs. This EO would cover those kind of scenarios. Since he gets backlash from private sector, he limited the EO to federal projects. This news will energize his base who doesnt know things in depth similar to H1B ban EO few months ago (Not many were affected by it). No Americans in the first place is not a right notion. Do you think most of the consultancies and Witch companies even consider to hire an USC even if they are eligible ? Quote
Anta Assamey Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, tom bhayya said: Emo EO chudaledhu emantunnadu thaatha? 58 minutes ago, proudtobeandhrite said: Basically, H1Bs cannot work on Federal projects. Meaning, the federal project cannot be outsourced offshore, or the employees who are working on this projects should be US Cit/Permanent resident. Aite na federal; job offer poinatte na ... Quote
DummyVariable Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Catalpha said: What this means: Your H1B LCA where end client is a federal government can now be denied. You may be asked to recertify the LCA even if the old one is already approved. This is a bit of extreme scenario though as it opens up the option of a lawsuit. We will know as the time moves and we see real-life cases. Third-party consulting companies will be affected even if you work in EVC or EVCC or any other model as long as the end client is a federally funded organization. Fear mongering. Where in the EO does it say that vendors to Federal contracting jobs should hire only Americans? Quote
Nimmakai Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 nen full time chese kompany lo federal and state both unnai... nak emana effect a ? Quote
argadorn Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said: Aite na federal; job offer poinatte na ... emo uncle nadhi kuda sam epage ankunta ...eppudu telusthundo ... Quote
Anta Assamey Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, argadorn said: emo uncle nadhi kuda sam epage ankunta ...eppudu telusthundo ... Inka Court la daya ... Quote
Kumaravaarma Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Nimmakai said: nen full time chese kompany lo federal and state both unnai... nak emana effect a ? how do you know if your company is both federal and state Quote
Catalpha Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said: Aite na federal; job offer poinatte na ... Job won't go, only LCA issues 48 minutes ago, Catalpha said: What this means: Your H1B LCA where end client is a federal government can now be denied. You may be asked to recertify the LCA even if the old one is already approved. This is a bit of extreme scenario though as it opens up the option of a lawsuit. We will know as the time moves and we see real-life cases. Third-party consulting companies will be affected even if you work in EVC or EVCC or any other model as long as the end client is a federally funded organization. Quote
DummyVariable Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Catalpha said: Why can't the contracting companies hire Americans? You have to tell them exclusively that you have to hire Americans for that to happen. If you allow free market forces then private companies mostly look at profit and act accordingly - in most cases hire a cheap foreign worker. If you do put that restriction then a lot of companies will not have the incentive to take up these projects as they may not be profitable. The federal government then has to pay more to have a set up like that. You will end up in a scenario where 200k will be paid for a java developer with 2 yrs exp - just so an american is hired. Pay will be high purely because of demand. Now to maintain those wages for so many american federal contractors, the govt will have to raise taxes or find new sources of revenue. Raise taxes and you will see another section crying about it. They already know this and that is why they will never put those words in. They will beat around the bush by changing words and saying really vague things. It will keep those demanding such restrictions happy. Quote
Kumaravaarma Posted August 3, 2020 Report Posted August 3, 2020 50 minutes ago, proudtobeandhrite said: Federal institutions cannot hire H1bs. You should be a US Citizen/ Perm Resident for it. The wording on the whitehouse website says something in the lines of "Federal Dollars'' cant be spent to displace american jobs. I interpret this as a blanket statement for both FT and Contractors. Until the policy comes out, all this is just an interpretation. May be this EO will curb vendors/suppliers to hire H1bs to work on federal projects. I dont know who they would enforce though. Already mana desi vendor/supplier companies federal security clearance kavalsina jobs (that support federal projects) ki clearance oka person ki teesukuni, athani/Ame user details use chesi remaining h1bs tho work cheyinchestharu. If proved, this is a federal offence. But, under the table chesestaru. So i dont know how they will enforce the rule though. Federal instuctions details please. Quote
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