Ore ore avi emi exit polls raa

[NiranjanGaaru]

5 minutes ago, narsy said:

yes. but it has nothing to do with inherent superiority of that kind of structure.. rather than chinese intent to grow rapidly.

that intent doesn't exist in any corner in India. 

@chanchalavacheva raa.... 

[narsy]

Just now, NiranjanGaaru said:

@chanchalavacheva raa.... 

blocked. byeee hindutva scum.

[AndhraneedSCS]

32 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

No , every party in power behaves like a power hungry despot . Mayor's , councillors are just collecting agents . Chief minister takes the decision every step .

Nee york mayor has the power to build metros , hospitals , universities , etc . What can Hyderabad mayor do without orders from state government ? 

Even Chinese citiesnhave great local administration filled by nomination . Their cities have much more power and revenue control . 

Power is being concentrated and that reflects all over the country , just notice that PMO has to order for every single big decision . Instead of experts doing work , we have a elected autocrats taking every decision 

ala anukunte MLAs and MPs (even some ministers) kuda emi cheyyaleru ga .. 

all the power is with CM and PM 

[manadonga]

1 minute ago, AndhraneedSCS said:

ala anukunte MLAs and MPs (even some ministers) kuda emi cheyyaleru ga .. 

all the power is with CM and PM 

yes india lo andari pani cmo lu pmo le chestayi 

chinna project kuda pmo nunchi clearence ravali same with state level projects 

ap cs ni cmo lo vallu transfer chesi paresaru 

[Ryzen_renoir]

20 minutes ago, AndhraneedSCS said:

ala anukunte MLAs and MPs (even some ministers) kuda emi cheyyaleru ga .. 

all the power is with CM and PM 

Elected representatives in assembly and parliament have the power to bring down anyone . 

What can a mayor + all the councillor in Hyderabad or any other city india do ? They cannot even pass the budget without state allocation 

[Ryzen_renoir]

35 minutes ago, narsy said:

yes. but it has nothing to do with inherent superiority of that kind of structure.. rather than chinese intent to grow rapidly.

that intent doesn't exist in any corner in India. 

It has everything to do with their structure , city controls majority of the revenue and have full control of its peoples  taxes over the state . 

Imagine if vijaywada has full control over the share of GST , income tax , registration over its people . It would develop lot more independently of any party over the state .

[narsy]

Just now, Ryzen_renoir said:

Elected representatives in assembly and parliament have the power to bring down anyone . 

What can a mayor + all the councillor in Hyderabad or any other city india do ? They cannot even pass the budget without state allocation 

Indian leaders do not know/recognize the difference between lawmakers and those with executive authority. For all intents and purposes, India has always been an authoritarian seeking electorate, with little fiefdoms at the state and district level, wherever possible.

talking about 'law' in India is a joke. No one follows it. Not even the loud online 'middle class', that is actually upper class.

[Ryzen_renoir]

5 minutes ago, narsy said:

Indian leaders do not know/recognize the difference between lawmakers and those with executive authority. For all intents and purposes, India has always been an authoritarian seeking electorate, with little fiefdoms at the state and district level, wherever possible.

talking about 'law' in India is a joke. No one follows it. Not even the loud online 'middle class', that is actually upper class.

True but my wish is atleast educated people shyould talk about system of governance over individuals . 

KCR or BJP or TDP will not develop Hyderabad , only a system of better governance does .  

Let us strive for systems over individuals 

[narsy]

2 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

It has everything to do with their structure , city controls majority of the revenue and have full control of its peoples  taxes over the state . 

Imagine if vijaywada has full control over the share of GST , income tax , registration over its people . It would develop lot more independently of any party over the state .

How would "share" of GST be counted among sales originating from a particular city? would you really want income to be taxed at multiple levels?

ofcourse, decentralization seems like its a good thing on the first look, but go down that path, and city will end up with majority of the debt and will go bankrupt soon.

 

[narsy]

6 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

True but my wish is atleast educated people shyould talk about system of governance over individuals . 

KCR or BJP or TDP will not develop Hyderabad , only a system of better governance does .  

Let us strive for systems over individuals 

Let them first grow economically. and then have change in social attitudes towards governance.

for that to happen, BJP should be decimated. equating other parties with BJP is unhelpful. BJP is uniquely incompetent and poisonous. especially with the current loafers that are running the party.

[narsy]

16 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

It has everything to do with their structure , city controls majority of the revenue and have full control of its peoples  taxes over the state . 

Imagine if vijaywada has full control over the share of GST , income tax , registration over its people . It would develop lot more independently of any party over the state .

Cities are said to be this 'engine of growth', which can't be further from the truth. In reality, cities depend on plundering of resources (both physical/geological) from its captive areas, and cornering economic grants from the center.

quest towards decentralization can happen only if the city has cornered enough resources to develop a somewhat self sustainable economy. No city in India qualifies for this.

Shenzhen is a miracle. Its an SEZ basically. Indians would wet their pants if they are forced to compete at that level. atleast upper castes who are insecure about their status in society would. Shenzhen would never be allowed to happen in India.

[narsy]

16 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

True but my wish is atleast educated people shyould talk about system of governance over individuals . 

KCR or BJP or TDP will not develop Hyderabad , only a system of better governance does .  

Let us strive for systems over individuals 

Only Delhi can develop Hyderabad. I bet most Hyderabadis are dumb enough to not want 'coalition govt' at the center.  because 'national security' or some such bullshit. but its precisely such a govt that can help Hyd.

 

[narsy]

I hope Hyd didn't vote for BJP.

[narsy]

20 minutes ago, Ryzen_renoir said:

systems over individuals 

systems are developed organically, following whatever works for the particular region at particular instances (market forces around the world).

I don't think there's one system that can be force fitted to every region, that can guarantee growth.

KTR for all his incompetence and bluster, is a good ambassador for Hyd. I don't even know how this latest thug 'Sanjay Bandi' looks.

[Ryzen_renoir]

5 minutes ago, narsy said:

Only Delhi can develop Hyderabad. I bet most Hyderabadis are dumb enough to not want 'coalition govt' at the center.  because 'national security' or some such bullshit. but its precisely such a govt that can help Hyd.

 

Lol don't mistake me ,BJP is hell bent on centralising power and doing absolutely nothing .  

Hyderabad can Ill afford BJP