Vaccine supply projection of india -2021

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

He is losing money at 150

 

https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/covishield-vaccine-for-centre-state-governments-at-rs-400dose-says-siis-adar-poonawalla-9008651.htm

 

He's bs'ing. Just a couple weeks back he claimed that he's making a profit..

and when Center announced that he can set his own price, he suddenly changed his tune. He's number one scum.

[Iriswest]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Its free to the patient.

you seem to have a problem with that. I don't know why.

you prefer people to catch covid and die, than to help them get vaccinated through public funds?

Public funds will not be sufficient to buy 300 crore doses by the center.

[Raven_Rayes]

7 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

People who don’t have insurance depend on Medicaid. It’s not free. The manufacturer gets his money. And US is not paying for Medicaid from pocket, it’s peoples money.

anyway, that's not the issue. Vaccines can be made free for all.

What has Union govt done to make it free? simple question.  answer is none.

nuvvemo let people who can afford it, take it antunnav.

let me guess.. you prefer taking vaccines in posh hospitals away from smelly Indians.

and then you expect a good health infrastructure when you vote for your preference at the ballot. you are literally competing with, and destroying the poorest in your country. saying that those who want to wait can wait. because some 30% magic number.

the real reason may be that you don't care whether they live or die.

[Raven_Rayes]

2 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

Public funds will not be sufficient to buy 300 crore doses by the center.

at 150/- per dose, its only 45k cr.. 

center collected 4lakh crores last yr just on fuel taxes, fyi.

[Iriswest]

2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

He's bs'ing. Just a couple weeks back he claimed that he's making a profit..

and when Center announced that he can set his own price, he suddenly changed his tune. He's number one scum.

He has to run a company and not charity. When Pfizer and moderna are making billions what is wrong for a company who invested time to research and produce an effective vaccine within short amount of time to make marginal profits. If this is the way innovators suffer then no one will come forward to create new vaccine when another pandemic hits.

[Raven_Rayes]

5 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

Public funds will not be sufficient to buy 300 crore doses by the center.

That's why a govt exists. to find a way to do it. Its not that hard when every country is doing it.

[Iriswest]

2 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

anyway, that's not the issue. Vaccines can be made free for all.

What has Union govt done to make it free? simple question.  answer is none.

nuvvemo let people who can afford it, take it antunnav.

let me guess.. you prefer taking vaccines in posh hospitals away from smelly Indians.

and then you expect a good health infrastructure when you vote for your preference at the ballot. you are literally competing with, and destroying the poorest in your country. saying that those who want to wait can wait. because some 30% magic number.

the real reason may be that you don't care whether they live or die.

You are only being driven by socialistic emotions and not by scientific facts. Need of the hour is vaccination. Country cannot wait until prices are decided. I am a much better human being that I care for the rich and poor alike. I never said poor should be discriminated, since I can be regarded as poor according to government standards. You never know who you are talking to on an anonymous forum. But I keep such discussions aside and focus only on scientific facts  and practical measures for the greater good. 

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

He has to run a company and not charity. When Pfizer and moderna are making billions what is wrong for a company who invested time to research and produce an effective vaccine within short amount of time to make marginal profits. If this is the way innovators suffer then no one will come forward to create new vaccine when another pandemic hits.

he's a licensed manufacturer. He didn't research sh1t.  The vaccine was born out of UK public funds. Moderna was out of US public funds.. and pfizer one was out of German public funds. Covaxin out of Indian public funds.

He's not an innovator. duh!!!

the way things are going, looks like even I can come up with a vaccine and opensource it... the unite cost of production will be less than half of 150/- I'm sure. rest may be payment for license. He would still make a profit, because he would be selling 200cr doses..

if he plays too hard to get, then fcuk him.. Forget about covishiled altogether and increase the covaxin production to insane levels. Let SII go bankrupt trying to sell doses at inflated prices to th rest of the world.

govt has leverage to make him do what they want to. Just that Modi doesn't give a fcuk about avg Indians. and apparently most upper class Indians don't give a fcuk too.

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

You are only being driven by socialistic emotions and not by scientific facts. Need of the hour is vaccination. Country cannot wait until prices are decided. I am a much better human being that I care for the rich and poor alike. I never said poor should be discriminated, since I can be regarded as poor according to government standards. You never know who you are talking to on an anonymous forum. But I keep such discussions aside and focus only on scientific facts  and practical measures for the greater good. 

what is the 'scientific fact' that I have missed here? that 30% stops spread... okay.. when do you think they will achieve this 30%?

and why do you think this is the best policy to achieve this 30%?

literally half the doses are wasted on corporates, when they could be targeted at high spread areas.

 

[Iriswest]

6 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

That's why a govt exists. to find a way to do it. Its not that hard when every country is doing it.

Nuvvu malli akkadike vastav. Other countries have robust health insurance systems, for which the funding is collected from people in extra taxes. Mana daggara entha percent correct ga kadtunnaru tax? Where will government mint that extra money from?

[RunRaajaRun123]

9 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

He has to run a company and not charity. When Pfizer and moderna are making billions what is wrong for a company who invested time to research and produce an effective vaccine within short amount of time to make marginal profits. If this is the way innovators suffer then no one will come forward to create new vaccine when another pandemic hits.

Serum invested zero dollars for Research for the vaccine , he made deal for manufacturing it.

[Telugodura456]

16 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

Public funds will not be sufficient to buy 300 crore doses by the center.

WHy is it not enough? at 200 rupees it is just 60,000 crores. India spent 29000 crores in dollars in just one month for fighter aircraft border issue with china - no war nothing. Can it not spend 60,000 crores internally when a major portion will come back to it as taxes ?

[Iriswest]

1 minute ago, Raven_Rayes said:

what is the 'scientific fact' that I have missed here? that 30% stops spread... okay.. when do you think they will achieve this 30%?

and why do you think this is the best policy to achieve this 30%?

literally half the doses are wasted on corporates, when they could be targeted at high spread areas.

 

Proven stat ani cheppa kada swamy in US and UK. Enni sarlu cheppali? Corporates are already in high spread areas. 

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

Nuvvu malli akkadike vastav. Other countries have robust health insurance systems, for which the funding is collected from people in extra taxes. Mana daggara entha percent correct ga kadtunnaru tax? Where will government mint that extra money from?

govt collected fuel taxes of 4lakh cr just last yr.

the entire exercise of vaccination will cost 45k cr..

the union govt has allocated 35k cr for vaccination, but it's a bs number.. because if the govt was serious, they would have simply announced free vaccines to all Indians.. with the rest 10k cr tab picked up the private hospitals. and state govts.

 

[Iriswest]

1 minute ago, RunRaajaRun123 said:

Serum invested zero dollars for Research for the vaccine , he made deal for manufacturing it.

Licensing cost has to be paid per every vial getting manufactured.