zarathustra Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 We all pretty much know that life is meaningless and largely pointless For some enlightened beings who come to this realization, the only way out is to rid themselves of continuing this charade. In that case, wouldn't suicide be the optimal solution. Is that the reason why all religions/govts/social institutions condemn suicide? Because maybe they know that once someone reaches the point of getting themselves out of this pointless existence, they aren't "useful" to the society anymore(won't pay taxes, won't contribute more future tax paying citizens etc). Is suicide the ultimate realization, the "enlightenment" that we all need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shameless Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, zarathustra said: We all pretty much know that life is meaningless and largely pointless For some enlightened beings who come to this realization, the only way out is to rid themselves of continuing this charade. In that case, wouldn't suicide be the optimal solution. Is that the reason why all religions/govts/social institutions condemn suicide? Because maybe they know that once someone reaches the point of getting themselves out of this pointless existence, they aren't "useful" to the society anymore(won't pay taxes, won't contribute more future tax paying citizens etc). Is suicide the ultimate realization, the "enlightenment" that we all need? Personally, I feel like it's not a good idea to legalize...whatever triggers a person to suicide indicates that the person is suffering from a disease that can be treated if addressed properly...we have lost beautiful souls because their disease was not treated in the right time since they never opened up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarathustra Posted June 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shameless said: Personally, I feel like it's not a good idea to legalize...whatever triggers a person to suicide indicates that the person is suffering from a disease that can be treated if addressed properly...we have lost beautiful souls because their disease was not treated in the right time since they never opened up... Again, my point is why should that be considered as a disease? What if someone doesn't want to work 8-5 M-F to buy some pointless junk and continue living a depressing life? Is continuing a depressing life because of what people consider "success" better than taking themselves out of the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputnik Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, zarathustra said: Again, my point is why should that be considered as a disease? What if someone doesn't want to work 8-5 M-F to buy some pointless junk and continue living a depressing life? Is continuing a depressing life because of what people consider "success" better than taking themselves out of the system? all ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yemdoing Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, zarathustra said: We all pretty much know that life is meaningless and largely pointless For some enlightened beings who come to this realization, the only way out is to rid themselves of continuing this charade. In that case, wouldn't suicide be the optimal solution. Is that the reason why all religions/govts/social institutions condemn suicide? Because maybe they know that once someone reaches the point of getting themselves out of this pointless existence, they aren't "useful" to the society anymore(won't pay taxes, won't contribute more future tax paying citizens etc). Is suicide the ultimate realization, the "enlightenment" that we all need? it doesn't need to be legalized... what are you going to do to the dead ? Spank them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shameless Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, zarathustra said: Again, my point is why should that be considered as a disease? What if someone doesn't want to work 8-5 M-F to buy some pointless junk and continue living a depressing life? Is continuing a depressing life because of what people consider "success" better than taking themselves out of the system? You yourself said depressing life...depression itself is a disease that is effecting a person mentally...there are many other ways to live rather than working 8-5 life...I personally believe that very few people think about success like you and me and most of the guys here in this DB...there are people who like to live a day-to-day life who doesn't even think about tomorrow... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 No it shouldn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fish Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Battu123 said: Very good fish gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrita Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, zarathustra said: We all pretty much know that life is meaningless and largely pointless For some enlightened beings who come to this realization, the only way out is to rid themselves of continuing this charade. In that case, wouldn't suicide be the optimal solution. Is that the reason why all religions/govts/social institutions condemn suicide? Because maybe they know that once someone reaches the point of getting themselves out of this pointless existence, they aren't "useful" to the society anymore(won't pay taxes, won't contribute more future tax paying citizens etc). Is suicide the ultimate realization, the "enlightenment" that we all need? Suicide is not ultimate realization . Infact it’s a life wasted . Chachamu anukoni can help many with that life . Bye the way I would support suicide to be legalized . Not just by medical assistance but also by will . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odhu_le_macha Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, zarathustra said: We all pretty much know that life is meaningless and largely pointless For some enlightened beings who come to this realization, the only way out is to rid themselves of continuing this charade. In that case, wouldn't suicide be the optimal solution. Is that the reason why all religions/govts/social institutions condemn suicide? Because maybe they know that once someone reaches the point of getting themselves out of this pointless existence, they aren't "useful" to the society anymore(won't pay taxes, won't contribute more future tax paying citizens etc). Is suicide the ultimate realization, the "enlightenment" that we all need? Suicide is illegal because if people were allowed to die painlessly, I think a majority of them would. You see, the society we live in does not want anyone to die happy, nor does it want anyone to live happy. All of our life we chase money and when we realize it, it is too late. Our laws have made it impossible to live happy. You come to this world, you study, study and when you have only 40% of your life left you work and work. And you are too old when you are left with enough money. Furthermore, you need to struggle. Struggle to rise is the motto of our society. They never say be happy. They say try to be at the top because it is what makes our society going, constant innovations and economy. And then they won’t allow you to die painlessly. Nobody wants to die in pain, of course. Our society knows this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neocortex Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, zarathustra said: We all pretty much know that life is meaningless and largely pointless For some enlightened beings who come to this realization, the only way out is to rid themselves of continuing this charade. In that case, wouldn't suicide be the optimal solution. Is that the reason why all religions/govts/social institutions condemn suicide? Because maybe they know that once someone reaches the point of getting themselves out of this pointless existence, they aren't "useful" to the society anymore(won't pay taxes, won't contribute more future tax paying citizens etc). Is suicide the ultimate realization, the "enlightenment" that we all need? No its not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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