Mavni count eskundama oka saari.

[micxas]

I take my words back on Hindu Mahasabha they did have some amazaing people like swami shardand, lala lajpati ray and madan mohan malvya. Not savarkar  and RSS.

[micxas]

1 minute ago, lazybugger said:

Congress was Hindutva in those days. I'm sure even you know that. Nehru at the top doesn't make Congress a socialist party. The party hobnobbed with industrialists, created a lazy industrial class, which persisted until Narasimha Rao decided to open up the economy.

Even then, the loudest opposition to the liberalization came not from the communists (who were crushed with brutal power by the state over a long time), but by the industrial class, which was overwhelmingly upper caste Hindu. Read about Bombay Plan.

Forget INC. They are a ball less party. BJP is hardly pro-liberal. It cannot be. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Its biggest base is the trader unions that won't allow them to liberalize the economy.

india doesn't need free markets. It needs 'parity' in access to education, and coordinated effort to create a huge industrial base. Something none of the parties will be able to do. Again because of Hindutva forces that plague Indian society. Now add islamic forces also, because even they learnt how to play the game.

Okay, now i see your definition of hindutva more clearly, Thanks man. 

[Quickgun_murugan]

@lazybugger whats going on in India now that provoked you post this topic?

[lazybugger]

8 minutes ago, micxas said:

Okay, you  are again back to caste system. You will never see a caste-less society. 

don't rush to conclusions. I am not looking at a caste less society. I want upper castes to be flexible, and allow lower caste people to flourish too. Do you understand, what I'm saying?

That is not happening in India. and you guys support a govt that promotes these kind of cretins. 

Just because you hate muslims.

I'm on course to buy and/or setup a network of factories in India this year. I'll tell you how exactly this upper (dominant) caste network functions. by the end of this year.

[lazybugger]

1 minute ago, Quickgun_murugan said:

@lazybugger whats going on in India now that provoked you post this topic?

I'm half way between India and the US man. 

I just wanted to see if I can atleast make that idiot friend of yours (yomama) to atleast think before he spews sh1t here. I know its a lost cause.

[lazybugger]

7 minutes ago, micxas said:

Okay, now i see your definition of hindutva more clearly, Thanks man. 

I will admit that 99% of what I say applies to Tamil Nadu and Tamil society. and to an extent Punjabi.

I don't have much exposure to other parts of India.

[lazybugger]

This hatred for muslims will kill India one day.

[lazybugger]

11 minutes ago, Quickgun_murugan said:

@lazybugger whats going on in India now that provoked you post this topic?

I'm a little irritated with the celebratory tone among those in the BJP camp who are confident of winning the UP elections.

[lazybugger]

Every structural problem in the commodity markets, and financial markets in India is due to access denied for people with the wrong caste.

And then we have a govt (since 2000) promoting service industry that made this divide even worse.

Now we have a govt that questions reservations, as if choking the lower castes by denying them access is not enough. 

And we have NRIs sitting in the US/UK celebrating that govt. worse when foreign military men celebrate this suppression of lower caste guys speaking up, callin them anti nationals.

[lazybugger]

When the BJP wins again, more such anti nationals will be born. And they'll shout even louder.

[micxas]

31 minutes ago, lazybugger said:

don't rush to conclusions. I am not looking at a caste less society. I want upper castes to be flexible, and allow lower caste people to flourish too. Do you understand, what I'm saying?

That is not happening in India. and you guys support a govt that promotes these kind of cretins. 

Just because you hate muslims.

I'm on course to buy and/or setup a network of factories in India this year. I'll tell you how exactly this upper (dominant) caste network functions. by the end of this year.

Thats a fair deal to me.. I am still unable to understand the people you are referring want to suppress some sections, what could be their motive, plain hatred against dalits and etc.? even all the upper castes you referred have their own bigotry against themselves of course  it is less evident and effective.

isn't that possible they don't want to see new competent coming from lower sections due to business reasons rather than attaching caste arrogance/kula dhurahankaram to it?  

[lazybugger]

1 minute ago, micxas said:

Thats a fair deal to me.. I am still unable to understand the people you are referring want to suppress the some sections, what could be their motive, plain hatred against dalits? even all the upper castes you referred have their own bigotry against themselves of course  it is less evident and effective.

isn't that possible they don't want to see new competents coming from lower section due to business reasons rather than attaching caste arrogance/kula dhurahankaram?  

whatever the reason is, they use kulam to justify it. They ofcourse forget about kulam when it benefits them. I know some people like to use those examples to say that money is everything, not caste. But I hope you understand, it's not true in most cases. In most cases, caste wins. because there's no bargaining chip for the other party. money doesn't even come into the picture.

BJP will not tell these people off. Neither will Congress. But you guys act as if BJP is egalitarian.

I can look past all this, if the caste groups controlling wealth allow for processes to improve and plug  inefficiencies. Or if the govt forces them to do so. Again, they don't. They just sit happily with their wealth, investing on little things here and there, and basically being rentier assholes.

how to defeat these people? Few minutes of talking to them, makes me feel I've wasted my time.

 

[Hercules]

@Quickgun_murugan @cottondora well said brothers. 

@lazybugger  miss closet ninnu nadi road mida rape cchesina adige nadhudu ledu! Enduku quote chesi VP avthav. Aunu ra LK, am an indo-american, i strongly support united india with dharmic roots! Iam against islamic ideologies and i repeat that they are incompatible with any civilized society! I will fund BJP and RSS. Hindus will never be persecuted by your stupid mofo barbaric islam again! Its just a matter of time to prove that ISLAM is a fake fcking religion and when that happens all you stupid SOBs will return to dharmic roots! 

Keep mouthing off like a rabies dog 

[Andagadu]

Bayya, evarina Mavni ante ento koncham chepandi please.

[lazybugger]

2 minutes ago, Hercules said:

@Quickgun_murugan @cottondora well said brothers. 

@lazybugger  miss closet ninnu nadi road mida rape cchesina adige nadhudu ledu! Enduku quote chesi VP avthav. Aunu ra LK, am an indo-american, i strongly support united india with dharmic roots! Iam against islamic ideologies and i repeat that they are incompatible with any civilized society! I will fund BJP and RSS. Hindus will never be persecuted by your stupid mofo barbaric islam again! Its just a matter of time to prove that ISLAM is a fake fcking religion and when that happens all you stupid SOBs will return to dharmic roots! 

Keep mouthing off like a rabies dog 

I know that you are hypocrite who promotes Hindutva bigot back home, while enjoying liberal western lifestyle for yourself.

I want to see who else you have for company.