Kohli is the greatest Indian batsman of all time

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nobody cares about stats, mr tennislvr.

sachin was hyped as the next big thing when he was 16, and he almost lived up to it.

kohli's backstory isn't that fantastic. He came up through hard work. just look at how he was struggling upto 2013.  Sachin never struggled.

Sachin is Spartan hero, and later became a boring workhorse. Kohli started off like a complete dud, and is now scoring heavily, but still something about him is missing.

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2 minutes ago, tennisluvr said:

I don't watch cricket at all, however I try to read cricinfo time to time. And it was all full of Kohli's prowess off late, so not surprised at all

nobody watches cricket. I just root for Rahane.

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mr.tennislvr,

you don't understand the psychology of a fan. Why was Agassi so hyped up even when Sampras overpowered him in the mid 90s?

sure, stats can be useful to claim someone as greatest, but people's hearts are won through something else.

I don't know. may be virat kohli is very popular. my 7yr old nephew thinks he's cool. though I didn't press him what he meant by 'cool'.

[CMSAAB]

title captain ani change chesukunte better. vaadu consistent ga aadutundu its good. oka series ayyindo ledo ika modaledataru ayya. 

are TS nuvu ne father kante baaga ranisthe you will be the greatest son. anthe kaani nuvu vachi ma ayya waste antava?? ee indian mentality ee janma ki maaradu ra babu.

asalu back to back srilanka tho series. is he doing against SA or Aus away series?? he is doing really good, and form of his career. 

ee chetta comaparisons aapu. better compare with current generation players. Smith is doing better than kohli. and even more successful.

title captain ani change chesukunte better. vaadu consistent ga aadutundu its good. oka series ayyindo ledo ika modaledataru ayya. 

are TS nuvu ne father kante baaga ranisthe you will be the greatest son. anthe kaani nuvu vachi ma ayya waste antava?? ee indian mentality ee janma ki maaradu ra babu.

[tennisluvr]

Just now, kakatiya said:

Sachin is a good captain in bad time . When Sachin was captain he didn't get team he wanted.. team he got where mostly fixers..

But still he managed to win the matches single handedly.

People look at Sachin failures only.. in current odi team we have Rohit, Rahane dhawan , pandya, pande and dhoni who perform even if Kohli fail. Back then if Sachin fails..jadeja Azhar are the only hope and both where fixers. 

What a joke, this is the usual sh1t Sachin worshippers peddle. It's true that while the team was going through a transition phase, outright calling people like Jadeja and esp Azharuddin who's one of the most legendary Indian captains and players is outright disrespectful. While he did involve in match fixing to a certain extent, it's not true that he consistently failed to perform all the time when the team needed him the most. 

Also in tests starting in 1996 we have had both Ganguly and Dravid(who's the greatest Indian batsman of all time in test matches) stepping up to play for the side. Ganguly was the best batsman in the world in ODIs starting from 1997 Sahara Cup in Toronto against Pakistan till the 2001 Australian tour of India when he fell out of form and never quite captured the dominating form he displayed for the past 4 years. 

So the usual sh1t that Sachin was the lone savior for the team was more of a Sachin fanboys creation and has to be taken with a lot of salt. 

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Sachin is awesome. records don't matter. even if Sachin himself played for those records. hehe..

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4 minutes ago, uttermost said:

nobody cares about stats, mr tennislvr.

sachin was hyped as the next big thing when he was 16, and he almost lived up to it.

kohli's backstory isn't that fantastic. He came up through hard work. just look at how he was struggling upto 2013.  Sachin never struggled.

Sachin is Spartan hero, and later became a boring workhorse. Kohli started off like a complete dud, and is now scoring heavily, but still something about him is missing.

 

[CMSAAB]

3 minutes ago, uttermost said:

nobody cares about stats, mr tennislvr.

sachin was hyped as the next big thing when he was 16, and he almost lived up to it.

kohli's backstory isn't that fantastic. He came up through hard work. just look at how he was struggling upto 2013.  Sachin never struggled.

Sachin is Spartan hero, and later became a boring workhorse. Kohli started off like a complete dud, and is now scoring heavily, but still something about him is missing.

sensible post. past generation heroes tho current generation vallani compare cheyyatam. ee dikkumalina indian mentality maaradu eppatiki.

kohli aadutuna bowlers evaru sachin/lara aadinappudu evaru?? 

[tennisluvr]

1 minute ago, CMSAAB said:

title captain ani change chesukunte better. vaadu consistent ga aadutundu its good. oka series ayyindo ledo ika modaledataru ayya. 

are TS nuvu ne father kante baaga ranisthe you will be the greatest son. anthe kaani nuvu vachi ma ayya waste antava?? ee indian mentality ee janma ki maaradu ra babu.

asalu back to back srilanka tho series. is he doing against SA or Aus away series?? he is doing really good, and form of his career. 

ee chetta comaparisons aapu. better compare with current generation players. Smith is doing better than kohli. and even more successful.

title captain ani change chesukunte better. vaadu consistent ga aadutundu its good. oka series ayyindo ledo ika modaledataru ayya. 

are TS nuvu ne father kante baaga ranisthe you will be the greatest son. anthe kaani nuvu vachi ma ayya waste antava?? ee indian mentality ee janma ki maaradu ra babu.

Ippudu Sachin waste ani evadannadu. Sachin was a great player and a terrific contributor to the team, however Kohli purely on batting grounds is the greatest Indian batsman so far across all formats of the game ani cheputunna

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1 minute ago, tennisluvr said:

What a joke, this is the usual sh1t Sachin worshippers peddle. It's true that while the team was going through a transition phase, outright calling people like Jadeja and esp Azharuddin who's one of the most legendary Indian captains and players is outright disrespectful. While he did involve in match fixing to a certain extent, it's not true that he consistently failed to perform all the time when the team needed him the most. 

Also in tests starting in 1996 we have had both Ganguly and Dravid(who's the greatest Indian batsman of all time in test matches) stepping up to play for the side. Ganguly was the best batsman in the world in ODIs starting from 1997 Sahara Cup in Toronto against Pakistan till the 2001 Australian tour of India when he fell out of form and never quite captured the dominating form he displayed for the past 4 years. 

So the usual sh1t that Sachin was the lone savior for the team was more of a Sachin fanboys creation and has to be taken with a lot of salt. 

that 'sahara cup' is a sham. played on rolled clay. lol. That tournament should have been banned from history itself.

 

[Kool_SRG]

6 minutes ago, kakatiya said:

Sachin is a good captain in bad time . When Sachin was captain he didn't get team he wanted.. team he got where mostly fixers..

But still he managed to win the matches single handedly.

People look at Sachin failures only.. in current odi team we have Rohit, Rahane dhawan , pandya, pande and dhoni who perform even if Kohli fail. Back then if Sachin fails..jadeja Azhar are the only hope and both where fixers. 

 

Those days captain has had no say in selection...What selectors gave had to play with that, once in middle of tour when he asked for Kanwaljit singh if i am right noel david was selected he was surprised who is he..

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1 minute ago, tennisluvr said:

Ippudu Sachin waste ani evadannadu. Sachin was a great player and a terrific contributor to the team, however Kohli purely on batting grounds is the greatest Indian batsman so far across all formats of the game ani cheputunna

okay. agreed. but only if Kohli keeps up this form. his career isn't over yet.

 

[tennisluvr]

Just now, CMSAAB said:

sensible post. past generation heroes tho current generation vallani compare cheyyatam. ee dikkumalina indian mentality maaradu eppatiki.

kohli aadutuna bowlers evaru sachin/lara aadinappudu evaru?? 

Comparisons happen all the time, making a comparison itself doesn't mean that the mentality is wrong. Even the players themselves set targets to achieve based on the achievements of the past players so the mentality is nothing to rage about. 

While one may not conclusively state that one particular batsman of a particular era isn't necessarily greater than another one in a different era, it's totally okay to state why you would think so. And in Kohli's case he proves it. Bowlers of this era, hmm think about Dale Steyn, Michelle Johnson who are all very accomplished bowlers. 

[Kool_SRG]

6 minutes ago, uttermost said:

nobody watches cricket. I just root for Rahane.

Nuvvu root chestunavvu antuke maree digajaaripotunnadu 

[tennisluvr]

2 minutes ago, uttermost said:

that 'sahara cup' is a sham. played on rolled clay. lol. That tournament should have been banned from history itself.

 

Discussion isn't about a particular "cup". It's about the time frame his dominance in ODIs started in the late 90s and continued upto the early 00s.