tom bhayya Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, RSUCHOU said: Definitely we can choose something which is interim, the day people start feeling entitled just based on their poverty and dependance. Min wage worker should contribute a dollar a day that is say 1% of his daily earnings, Richman also contribute 1% of his daily wages towards public insurance, which is then contributed to build the medical infrastructure. If the whole country contributed 1% of their daily earnings with equal access to the created facility everyone benefits. It is how a society that contributes equally according to their ability contribute to common pool which can then be distributed equally. But, today's models are built on unequal contribution and sense of entitlement based on the need. This would always fail because the Rich always feel fleeced and start contributing less and less. People who run the governments know who can fund their campaigns and reruns to office. This parity will keep growing. The so called Communist China has the worlds maximum parity between haves and have nots. Ok looks like you are not getting the whole point just having a great business model doesn’t earn you money, a capitalist society only will make sure that you get profits. Why do you think manufacturing is all in china? Coz their slavery is legal in the name of communism but it’s actually dictatorship. There are thousands of people willing to do day job in US why don’t your capitalist corporation companies start their operations in US ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilliBeta Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 14 hours ago, PilliBeta said: He thinks that it's okay if Jeff Bezos is getting richer and richer while some people can't make ends meet. He thinks it's alright for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer since the rich worked their ass off to get where they are like Jeff Bezos, that privilege doesn't exist and people just use the opportunities they get, and your life is a result of the choices you make. I need an argument that supports liberal views, I used healthcare as an example, if people deserve to get Universal healthcare since it is such a basic requirement, since people who don't have it become broke and end up in debt. He disagrees because it's required by the Government for everyone in the US to have a health insurance, and I said what if someone doesn't have insurance, and he says who's fault is that? I need some arguments supporting socialism because I am unable to defend my point of view that some people have privilege. Any ideas? Update: He asked me to stop talking politics with my liberal co-workers because they seem to be changing my opinion of various things, especially privilege and tax loopholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilliBeta Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, tom bhayya said: Ok looks like you are not getting the whole point just having a great business model doesn’t earn you money, a capitalist society only will make sure that you get profits. Why do you think manufacturing is all in china? Coz their slavery is legal in the name of communism but it’s actually dictatorship. There are thousands of people willing to do day job in US why don’t your capitalist corporation companies start their operations in US ? Because there are more human rights and freedom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, PilliBeta said: Point is still valid, you make decent money. It means you made good decisions. if 300k is meager to u, 100k is below poverty as per ur description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranku_mogudu Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Manikyam said: did you find any moral out of this thrd I think it is 'Dont marry be happy' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 US lo citizens...isunti topics meeda divorce lu teskuntaru... just warning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siru Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, PilliBeta said: Update: He asked me to stop talking politics with my liberal co-workers because they seem to be changing my opinion of various things, especially privilege and tax loopholes. update: make him biryani or something. Food sariga pettatledu emo..frustration ala chupistunnadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom bhayya Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, PilliBeta said: Like I said, the point is about poor becoming 'not poor or sufficiently rich' if they make good life choices irrespective of privilege. Yes simple point if you are rich then you wouldn’t fall for politicians false promises so they want to make sure their voters are poor, secondly they want to make sure their election campaign is sponsored by corporations and pass only rules favoring them it’s no brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilliBeta Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, siru said: if 300k is meager to u, 100k is below poverty as per ur description No, 100k is a lot of money. I am saying 300k is meagre when compared to what Jeff Bezos make. Anything above 40k is a decent amount of money to live on for a single person IMO, subject to location ofcourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anta Assamey Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Your Husband has a Horrible wife too .... By Calling her Husband a Horrible person in a public forum and putting up a discussion on him ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbnpathiths Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, friesNfrappe said: Babyy muahhh @vendetta started roy @Sucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2d2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Anta Assamey said: Your Husband has a Horrible wife too . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilliBeta Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, tom bhayya said: Yes simple point if you are rich then you wouldn’t fall for politicians false promises so they want to make sure their voters are poor, secondly they want to make sure their election campaign is sponsored by corporations and pass only rules favoring them it’s no brainer If you are born in a household that makes 40k, if you end up being in a household that make 100k, you're improving your life because of the life choices you're making. If you're born in a household that makes 200k, and end being in a household that makes 50k, it's also because of your life choices. There is nothing like privilege or lack of it, annadi point. Rich are rich because they worked for it, poor are staying poor because they are not working for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaali_Gottam_Govinda Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Amazon Number of employees 1,000,000 (July 2020) Ilanti Liberal Free lunch attitude valle India sanka nakipoyindi......... I agree with your husband to some extent........ When government is dumb and don't have innovative ideas to generate employment and keep millions of people without work........... You have to give tax breaks to innovative and growing companies who employ a million people. I also support Poor should not get poorer........ they need to be provided free education and decent healthcare........... but should never be provided free money. There has to be middle line between free capitalism and social programs......... Stock buybacks lantivi ban cheyyali..... give tax breaks for Company's R&D for innovation and employment generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilliBeta Posted October 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said: Your Husband has a Horrible wife too .... By Calling her Husband a Horrible person in a public forum and putting up a discussion on him ... Made for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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