sattipandu Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, JambaKrantu said: this was quite evident model 3 ate away sales of bmw 3 series, Audi A4, Mercedes C class , infiniti and lexus models aaa entry luxury sedan buyers andaru shifted to model 3 model Y kooda will start to eat away sales of Audi q5, bmw X3, merc models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keviinusa Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, sattipandu said: this was quite evident model 3 ate away sales of bmw 3 series, Audi A4, Mercedes C class , infiniti and lexus models aaa entry luxury sedan buyers andaru shifted to model 3 model Y kooda will start to eat away sales of Audi q5, bmw X3, merc models its obvious kada, model 3 available the same day vuntey chala mandi accord/altima buyers ade tesukuntar provided they have charging facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macha Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, sattipandu said: this was quite evident model 3 ate away sales of bmw 3 series, Audi A4, Mercedes C class , infiniti and lexus models aaa entry luxury sedan buyers andaru shifted to model 3 model Y kooda will start to eat away sales of Audi q5, bmw X3, merc models think about this just getting started with 500K cars per year with 24% margins straight away going to there pockets... 2030 with 10 million cars per year with with 20% margins you know how much stock going to go..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperbole Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, sri_india said: most of the companies go with waymo's tech .... Not practical in current state and then it will be android, one one or 2 will successfull and rest all will be making loses. secondly, tesla has a leg up with vertical integration from chips/hardware to software and the whole car it self. i think at some point Tesla will license it’s software to other car makers and that package now costs $10k. other ev makers are selling their cars at a loss - primarily because the don’t have efficiency any where near tesla and hence use bigger battery packs to be in the visinty of Tesla’s range than beat Tesla. On top of that if they have to pay third parties for software and hardware then forget it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anta Assamey Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 TESLA has a long road to go ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macha Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, hyperbole said: Not practical in current state and then it will be android, one one or 2 will successfull and rest all will be making loses. secondly, tesla has a leg up with vertical integration from chips/hardware to software and the whole car it self. i think at some point Tesla will license it’s software to other car makers and that package now costs $10k. other ev makers are selling their cars at a loss - primarily because the don’t have efficiency any where near tesla and hence use bigger battery packs to be in the visinty of Tesla’s range than beat Tesla. On top of that is they have to pay third parties for software and hardware then forget it or both can live parallel also... how ever waymo is way expensive as of today to scale up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keviinusa Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 already baidu campus lo self driving cars tirgutunnai ani videos chusa ante chinki gallani pakkana pettesara DB vaasulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattipandu Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, macha said: or both can live parallel also... how ever waymo is way expensive as of today to scale up... i like the NIO model also , their Battery as a service is amazing IMO battery technology advancements ki car owner will be completely oblivious and risk free going by review videos their internal voice assistant is also pretty robust atleast in mandarin. the big downside is see is they are a chinese company , current leasing all manufacturing facilities from govt a cheap rates. NIO is trying to be apple+tesla+starbucks all combined into one with their hangout spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattipandu Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, macha said: think about this just getting started with 500K cars per year with 24% margins straight away going to there pockets... 2030 with 10 million cars per year with with 20% margins you know how much stock going to go..... being vertically integrated and owing and controlling everything going into their products tesla is taking a huge risk but if executed the margins will kill other competitors tesla can price gouge others into submission. just like recent price corrections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperbole Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, sattipandu said: being vertically integrated and owing and controlling everything going into their products tesla is taking a huge risk but if executed the margins will kill other competitors tesla can price gouge others into submission. just like recent price corrections It is already doing by selling model 3 at that price. Their price is a benchmark and people compare range to price ratio and when they do that the competition is going to die since Tesla is 5 years ahead of eveyone else in fine tuning their software, battery tech and efficiency. with latest update the range of model 3 increased by a few miles and that is unprecedented from consumers standpoint for example, with the same 100KwH battery in model s they managed to increase range by 87miles The current Tesla Model S Long Range Plus has an EPA range of 402 miles. That’s an 87-mile increase from when the 100.0-kWh version of the vehicle was introduced in 2016. How it achieves this is closely related to the fact that Tesla is building its own motor, inverter, battery pack, and other items instead of sourcing from a Tier 1 supplier. This do-it-yourself approach allows Tesla to continually tweak those parts to maximize their efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattipandu Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, hyperbole said: It is already doing by selling model 3 at that price. Their price is a benchmark and people compare range to price ratio and when they do that the competition is going to die sjnce they are 5 years ahead if eveyone else in fine tuning their software, battery tech and efficiency. with latest update the range of model 3 increased by a few miles and that is unprecedented from consumers standpoint yeah but adoption inka peragaali andukey gaa 25k model undhi in works ani tease chesthundhi to all TESLA autopilot detractors , they have a looong way to go but for now they are the safest and most advanced cars on street In the 3rd quarter, we registered one accident for every 4.59 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot but with our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 2.42 million miles driven. For those driving without Autopilot and without our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 1.79 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 479,000 miles. https://electrek.co/2020/10/26/tesla-autopilot-accident-data-report-showing-slight-improvement/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperbole Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 $25K car vaste inka mass market cars ki pedda debba, ippudu already premium segment is feeling well the heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macha Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, sattipandu said: i like the NIO model also , their Battery as a service is amazing IMO battery technology advancements ki car owner will be completely oblivious and risk free going by review videos their internal voice assistant is also pretty robust atleast in mandarin. the big downside is see is they are a chinese company , current leasing all manufacturing facilities from govt a cheap rates. NIO is trying to be apple+tesla+starbucks all combined into one with their hangout spots I dont know how will new battery as structure will effect... else tesla has same Baas model in mind....roumers are VW and Fiat was working on deal.. how ever Tesla itself shortage of battery for next decade with semi, cyber and Roadster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macha Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, hyperbole said: $25K car vaste inka mass market cars ki pedda debba, ippudu already premium segment is feeling well the heat this is what happens when everyone in market is sleeping with out innovating and depending on OEM margins...same thing happend to Motorola or nokia when Iphone released... mom and pop stores when Amazon was killing online sales... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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